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psychoangel691 06-6-2011 09:21 PM

FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
So seeing the FFR classics thread inspired me to want to do a classics tourney. This means I will only be using songs from '02 to '05 maybe an '06 in there depending on how things go. And yes this does mean you will be playing synth files XD.



Scoring/Eliminations

Being that this is a classics tourney I will be doing eliminations (which how many are eliminated each round will be determined by how many sign up) and I will be doing COMBO scoring. Just to kinda give it a little bit of the official tourney feel.

Divisions

There will only be 5 divisions for this tourney and I will determine you division based on level stats and how you've been doing in tourneys if currently participating in any.

Rounds/Start Date

There will be 5 rounds and they will be 1 day each (short and sweet). I will be kicking off this tourney on Friday June 10th at 5pm server time.



Rules/Submission Guidelines:

1. NO CHEATING. Do not sign up with an alternate account and hope that you will get away with it. If I have a reason to believe that you are not using your main account, I will ask you. Be honest with me.

2. You MAY NOT USE NOTESKINS, OFFSETS OR MIRROR in this tourney (this means no velocity engine since it does not show if a noteskin has been used). Being that it's a classics tourney I want to keep that classic feel as much as possible. (I would do 1x only as well but then it's too hard to place people)

3. Be respectful to all other competitors in the tournament. Arguments will not be tolerated and are grounds for removal from the tournament.

4. Submissions should be in screenshot form. If you take a video of a run, be sure to grab the screenshot, or we will not accept it. For those of you who do not remember how to take a screenshot, here's some help:

Mac users:
- Command + Shift + 3: Takes a screenshot of the entire screen, and saves the image to your desktop. From there, you can upload it to a site like imgur.com and crop it if necessary.

Windows users::
- Press the print screen button. From there, open Paint (or another image editing program) and paste your image in Paint. If you'd like, you can resize it within Paint at this time. From there, you can upload it to a site like imgur.com and crop it (if you haven't done so).

Prizes/Donations

As always, donations are always greatly appreciated. Prizes will be determined based on donations and participants. Please send all donations to psychoangel691.


Special note: Secret and Purchased songs will be used in this tourney.

Psychoangel691 50,000
TC_Halogen 150,000
Andrew Mitchell 40,000
NetJet! 14,000
V-Ormix 30,000
iironiic 50,000
Current Prize Pool


334,000

Participants



  1. Plan_Bsk81127
  2. iironiic
  3. OneHandNow
  4. who_cares973
  5. alloyus
  6. TC_Halogen (1 handed)
  7. swagged
  8. ~Zeta~
  9. AsphyxZero
  10. Andrew Mitchell
  11. psychoangel691
  12. bballa48
  13. emulord
  14. MrPopadopalis25
  15. knuckles2224
  16. FFRGreen
  17. Elite Ninja
  18. VarleyisDance
  19. rusty_spoons
  20. 00Razor00
  21. SocoNhydro420
  22. ScarletSky
  23. zadkiel91
  24. xBBx Takedown
  25. Poison-
  26. yo man im awesome
  27. Ziergdsx18
  28. Zekramcross
  29. remedy1502
  30. typing like wat
  31. Everr
  32. Ksl33zy24
  33. New_pr0
  34. Soul.
  35. warriormag17
  36. V-Ormix
  37. Ic0slay3r

Divisions


D5

1st TC_Halogen 51,400
2nd ~Zeta~ 30,840
3rd iironiic 20,560



D4
1st MrPopadopalis25 41,400
2nd Poison- 24,840
3rd Ic0slay3r 16,560


D3

1st who_cares973 31,400
2nd knuckles2224 18,840
3rd New_pr0 12,560

D2

1st zadkiel91 26,400
2nd Andrew Mitchell 15,840
3rd VarleyisDance 10,560

D1

1st Everr 16,400
2nd rusty_spoons 9,840
3rd Zekramcross 6,560







Plan_Bsk81127 06-6-2011 09:23 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Approved




And in, so take it no velo engine due to the noteskin thing?

iironiic 06-6-2011 09:24 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
In, and ROFL at Plan's post hahaha

EDIT: No standalone too?

psychoangel691 06-6-2011 09:27 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan_Bsk81127 (Post 3482030)
Approved

And in, so take it no velo engine due to the noteskin thing?

Unfortunately you are correct. Since velo's engine does not show if a noteskin was used we're only going to be able to use the legacy engine for this tourney.


Quote:

Originally Posted by iironiic (Post 3482033)
In, and ROFL at Plan's post hahaha

EDIT: No standalone too?

Standalone is fine since flash 10 causes ridiculous lag for people. I'm just trying to get as much of a nostalgia feel as possible. Be happy that I didn't use the avemiss engine and 1x XD

OneHandNow 06-6-2011 09:30 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
time to earn me some credits

in

iironiic 06-6-2011 09:30 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Ok last question. Speed mods are only 1x, 1.25x, 1.5x, 1.75x, 2x, 2.25x, etc.?

MaxGhost 06-6-2011 09:33 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Yeah this is just gonna make me rage more than anything else, so... not in lol
I can't play on legacy engine at all :/

who_cares973 06-6-2011 09:35 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
In most def

alloyus 06-6-2011 09:36 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
I'll rage hard, but in xD

TC_Halogen 06-6-2011 09:38 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
in, one handed + 1x; D2

EDIT: will vid rounds if necessary

swagged 06-6-2011 09:38 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
IN. Sounds fun

~Zeta~ 06-6-2011 09:39 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
ehhhh. might as well. hoping classic picks won't be too bad >_>

psychoangel691 06-6-2011 09:39 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iironiic (Post 3482042)
Ok last question. Speed mods are only 1x, 1.25x, 1.5x, 1.75x, 2x, 2.25x, etc.?


I'm not going to force speedmods on people especially because that can cause division placement discrepancies so you may use whatever your normal speedmod is for this tourney.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Zeta~ (Post 3482062)
ehhhh. might as well. hoping classic picks won't be too bad >_>

BNS ^_^

AsphyxZero 06-6-2011 09:41 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
In. Doing this one pettanko hehehe

Andrew Mitchell 06-6-2011 10:03 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
in

bballa48 06-6-2011 10:05 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
In

emulord 06-6-2011 10:08 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
I call BS on Halogen's D2. Even onehand, he should be D3. 1x just makes sightreading harder.
Can I do Index 1.75x D3?
Otherwise I'll do Spread 1.75x D4.

Either way, IN

knuckles2224 06-6-2011 10:35 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Count me in, I play on regular FFR server anyways.

FFRGreen 06-6-2011 10:40 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
good im in

psychoangel691 06-6-2011 10:44 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
I should also mention secret and purchased songs will be used in this tourney.

TC_Halogen 06-6-2011 11:03 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emulord (Post 3482079)
I call BS on Halogen's D2. Even onehand, he should be D3. 1x just makes sightreading harder.
Can I do Index 1.75x D3?
Otherwise I'll do Spread 1.75x D4.

Either way, IN

I can't FC many 9s one handed but I suppose that makes me D3, hm? my best one handed FC is The Prototype (20-2-0-8), and now I'm adding 1x to it?

whatever, someone had a problem with it so I'm withdrawing from D2 and playing D5 with speedmods and such; apparently I'm not allowed to have fun and be different without being scrutinized

psychoangel691 06-6-2011 11:05 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emulord (Post 3482079)
I call BS on Halogen's D2. Even onehand, he should be D3. 1x just makes sightreading harder.
Can I do Index 1.75x D3?
Otherwise I'll do Spread 1.75x D4.

Either way, IN

If you index you'll have to post a vid each round to prove it.

Elite Ninja 06-6-2011 11:42 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
INNNNNNN! Now to read what this tournament is all about lol.

If only we could play the good ol ChronoTrigger song we used to have. Ive always wondered how I would do on it now since I am way better now.

emulord 06-7-2011 12:02 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Well I dont have a camera, so I guess its D4 for me. Sorry Halogen, I just thought you might totally wreck D2. Onehanded has a huge difference between 7-8 and 9s

alloyus 06-7-2011 12:08 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Along with Halogen, I was actually debating asking for one hand with 1x speed in D2 xD I'd like to do that instead of Dwhatevs, if that's ok. I can also vid each round.

VarleyisDance 06-7-2011 12:27 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
I'm in.... ill play x1 and screen cut like years ago :)

rusty_spoons 06-7-2011 12:32 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Gonna totally do this no random trips this time ;D IN please

00Razor00 06-7-2011 02:41 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
in

SocoNhydro420 06-7-2011 03:04 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
I'm in

ScarletSky 06-7-2011 03:38 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
In, I need to get some of those old songs AAAd anyway and this is just the incentive I need to start doing it.

AsphyxZero 06-7-2011 05:43 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Wait, if I'm playing pettanko, do I have to make vids too :<

psychoangel691 06-7-2011 06:42 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
If you are looking to play in a lower division than your normal than yea I'd need proof that you're playing that style.

zadkiel91 06-7-2011 09:14 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
in!

VarleyisDance 06-7-2011 11:13 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by psychoangel691 (Post 3482260)
If you are looking to play in a lower division than your normal than yea I'd need proof that you're playing that style.


I'd like D2.....you'll see that i'm play x1 speed on my screenshots :)

00Razor00 06-7-2011 04:05 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
You should've requested to use the AV miss engine if this is gonna have a 'classic feel'.

psychoangel691 06-7-2011 04:36 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 00Razor00 (Post 3482443)
You should've requested to use the AV miss engine if this is gonna have a 'classic feel'.

If you had read I said that I would have but placements would be too hard to do because of 1x. Some people have no problem reading others can't do it at all.

xBBx Takedown 06-7-2011 04:37 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Innnnnnnnnnnnn!

Poison- 06-7-2011 04:43 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
In

yo man im awesome 06-7-2011 04:44 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
I guess I'm in. I wouldn't expect to be in that high a Division anyway, but I might as well.


Also, D5 the hardest, or D1, just cause I'm a little unsure with this one.

psychoangel691 06-7-2011 04:52 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
D5 is the highest division. And I don't want to go nuts with people trying to get into other divisions playing other styles. The only reason AJ was going to do it is because 1 he'd crush everyone in d5 (unless dossar plays) so he wanted other people to have a shot at 1st in D5. Plus it's kinda boring for him since he AAAs everything. At least 1 handed he has a challenge because he struggles to FC things.

Ziergdsx18 06-7-2011 06:44 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
In.

OneHandNow 06-7-2011 06:53 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by psychoangel691 (Post 3482480)
D5 is the highest division. And I don't want to go nuts with people trying to get into other divisions playing other styles. The only reason AJ was going to do it is because 1 he'd crush everyone in d5 (unless dossar plays) so he wanted other people to have a shot at 1st in D5. Plus it's kinda boring for him since he AAAs everything. At least 1 handed he has a challenge because he struggles to FC things.

He wouldn't crush everyone in D5 >:[

(just don't pick songs like DP, RATO and I'm good 8-))

Zekramcross 06-7-2011 07:21 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
I'm in for D1. oh and what is combo scoring?

emulord 06-7-2011 07:40 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Oh, if its a 5 division tournament, I might be more appropriate for D3.
<-- No FMO AAAs, few VC AAAs.

Plan_Bsk81127 06-7-2011 07:48 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
If you are going to do combo based scoring can you set a boocap on the songs each round so people cant go and be stupid and just mash the song because they cant combo it/FC it?

remedy1502 06-7-2011 07:59 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan_Bsk81127 (Post 3482604)
If you are going to do combo based scoring can you set a boocap on the songs each round so people cant go and be stupid and just mash the song because they cant combo it/FC it?

Nope that's FFR man
also in

typing like wat 06-7-2011 08:53 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
i guess im in but as of monday i wont be able to use the computer for a week

XCV 06-7-2011 08:54 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zekramcross (Post 3482591)
I'm in for D1. oh and what is combo scoring?

A holdover from the early 2000's. The way your score is calculated looks like this [don't quote me on the numbers, I got the important ones right]:

[Perfects * 550 + Goods * 275 + Averages * 110 - Misses * 110 - Boos * 200 + Combo * 1000]

Your combo has far more impact on your score than your PA [Perfect Attack - basically your accuracy] or your boo count, or anything else, for that matter. This wouldn't be a problem except for the fact that you can buttonmash the whole song - you can get a 2,000 boo FC on La Camp, say, and still get a ranking in the top 500, because you hit every note and thus get about 3 million points for the 3,000 combo - the 2,000 boos only take off 400,000, which is easily made up for by the perfects, goods and averages. Thus, a score of like 100-30-0-200 on some song beats a 0-0-1-0 provided the song has a good amount of notes. [and the guy with the missflag didn't miss at the very beginning or end, but that's kinda trivial] This is why most tourneys use "raw score" which is the score kept track of at the bottom of the screen as you're playing the song.

tl;dr - Synth put it in unaware of that ^ in the site's infant years and it's become really annoying.

psychoangel691 06-7-2011 08:59 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Frankly combo scoring sucks lol. But in the spirit of trying to be as classic as possible I'm using it.

Unfortunately plan remedy is right, but I don't think mashed scores should be much of an issue in this tourney.

xXAll-ProXx 06-7-2011 09:03 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Why haven't they changed the scoring system to something more plausible already?

psychoangel691 06-7-2011 09:07 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
I'm not sure if it's going to be the same with BW we'll have to see.

Everr 06-7-2011 10:21 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
definatly in (:

Ksl33zy24 06-7-2011 11:18 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
i guess ill try my first tourney ever, if u let me... in (:

emulord 06-8-2011 12:36 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
The reason why they havnt "fixed" combobased scoring is because FFR saves your "best" score, you could very easily lose FCs, which makes improving scores less exciting.

psychoangel691 06-8-2011 12:52 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
FC's are basically as meaningless as overall rank. Because they can be mash FCed there is no excitement in it. Right now there are tons of people higher up in the ranks than they should be because someone mash FCd their score and the other person may have had like an sdg type score but with one miss. There's no reason for combo to be worth THAT much.

New_pr0 06-8-2011 01:15 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
I'll actually participate and submit for this, lol. D3 please.

Soul. 06-8-2011 01:25 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
This sound fun!
I'll be in please
Can I play as Index since there's no spread on here? :s

psychoangel691 06-8-2011 01:33 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
What do you mean there's no spread on here?

AsphyxZero 06-8-2011 03:23 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Sounds like a bad translation, he probably doesn't play spread.

warriormag17 06-8-2011 05:04 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
I'd like to join this.

Everr 06-8-2011 12:31 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
This is a really good idea to just do classics because I REALLY hate the old songs rankings! most of them are mashed or played on by 10s of alts and it makes it really hard to lower the ranks on them.. so this is good cause (: itll push us to improve on hard to get good rank songs!

psychoangel691 06-8-2011 12:46 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
lol yea I was so happy to get the synth files AAAd

Everr 06-8-2011 01:42 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by psychoangel691 (Post 3482951)
lol yea I was so happy to get the synth files AAAd

oh jez those are the worst.. I cant stand legacy haha its pretty much a playlist with all the terrible synth files with hard to see backgrounds

typing like wat 06-8-2011 02:37 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
if i dont post a score by the end of R1 just take me out of the tourney

xBBx Takedown 06-8-2011 06:04 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
What division will I be placed in since this is a 5 division tournament? Just curious.

psychoangel691 06-8-2011 06:33 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
I haven't done divisions yet so I have no idea. It's all going to depend on who signs up.

Ziergdsx18 06-8-2011 06:44 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
I predict the final round for D5 will be Revolutionary Etude.

xD

xBBx Takedown 06-9-2011 06:16 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Bumped :P

psychoangel691 06-9-2011 06:33 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Yea I guess I can start placements now. Kinda a smaller tourney this time but that's okay ^_^ should still be fun to watch the rage ensue from the good ol classics XD

yo man im awesome 06-9-2011 08:06 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
*cough* bump *cough*

psychoangel691 06-10-2011 02:12 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Divisions are up. Please pm me with any questions/concerns.

ic0slay3r 06-10-2011 03:26 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
I thought I already joined this, apparently not.

In. :)

V-Ormix 06-10-2011 11:18 AM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
In. ill try and make 50 k credits in the next couple days and then donate them 8)

also, this is trippy :/

psychoangel691 06-10-2011 02:42 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
I was gonna kick this off at 5pm server time but I'm no good at waiting lol. One thing I'm gonna say right now, don't flame me for the song choices, it's a classics tourney which means you're gonna see all the songs that most people rage at lol. With that being said here's round 1

D5

Party 4u -holy nite mix-

D4

Rondo Alla Turca

D3

Delirium

D2

Legend of Zelda Remix

D1

Spontaneous Hydroxide


I'm still going to keep the 5pm round time for ending this round since people weren't expecting this until 5. So this round will conclude tomorrow the 11th at 5pm server time.

Ksl33zy24 06-10-2011 03:09 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 

alloyus 06-10-2011 03:22 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
First for D2 :3 (Thank you so much for letting me play in this style~)



Edit: Trying to get Youtube vid to show up xD Please wait a moment

Edit 2: I couldn't figure it out xD I'm sorry, but here's the link, anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6PTHiK6vS4

Soul. 06-10-2011 03:22 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Since I'm below the red line, do I have to AAA Legend of Zelda Remix to stay safe?

alloyus 06-10-2011 03:28 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Any score will get you above the red line, the red line is just there to show that two people are going to be eliminated this round. As long as you have a score that's higher than the people below the line, you'll be above it (in this case, you can get anything because the other person hasn't submitted yet).

Everr 06-10-2011 03:29 PM

Re: FFR Classics Short and Sweet Tourney
 
Holy crap at the song choices hahaha but thats good! damnnn hahaha I know everyones going to hate this XD


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