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qqwref 05-27-2011 10:17 PM

Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Fearful Symmetry Tournament

(This tournament is over.)


Everything in life has an opposite. Light and dark; good and evil; yin and yang. And when it comes to opposites, you can't have one without the other. So it is with mirror and nonmirror. Just like yin and yang, mirror and nonmirror exist in perfect symmetry. Perhaps you like one more than the other. But just like you have both a left and a right side, symmetrical and paired, so does the universe. Without these twin playing styles, the world cannot be considered complete.

And yet, a lot of people will only play a song on mirror or nonmirror, and never try the other option. Only the best score is recorded, so it makes sense to just use the easier one. Maybe one hand is slower; maybe you read patterns on one hand easier; maybe you have mental blocks. But if that's the case, you'd better be scared, and you'd better start training your weaker hand - because for this tournament, you can't just choose mirror or nonmirror. You must play BOTH!

Submitting Scores

This tourney is based on raw score, because it's much more fair. For reference, you get 50 points for a perfect, 25 for a good, 5 for an average, -10 for a miss, and -5 for a boo.

Unlike most tournaments, you will need to provide two scores for your song: one score on mirror, and one on nonmirror. Only the worse of the two scores will count, so make sure to do well on both (and especially make sure to submit scores on both). You can update either of your two scores at any time before the round ends; just make sure to make a new post, and not edit an old one, because it'll save me a lot of time to not have to check every single post when I update.

There is no score penalty for a late submission, but I won't accept it unless you (a) have a good excuse, and (b) let me know you'll send in a late score before the end of the round, so I don't eliminate you. If you send in a score late, you still have to keep up with the schedule for the next round(s).

All submitted scores must be in picture form, and include the entire perfect/great/average/miss/boo count, your username, and the date. Make sure the score is from the current round, because older scores won't be accepted. The modern engines tell you all this information already, so something like this screenshot is fine. I've circled the important parts in red.


Signups/Divisions/Eliminations

You must have at least 20 public FCs to sign up. This is a bit nonstandard, but it will ensure better placement. I'm planning to have 6 divisions, with the top one being for only the God Tier players who wreck FGOs. You can sign up at any point until the end of the first round. Feel free to suggest which division you should be in, but I won't necessarily put you there.

All rankings depend on the sum of your scores for each round, but these rankings won't really matter until the last round. I will only eliminate players who fall far behind the rest, to the point where they probably won't catch up. This includes anyone who doesn't submit a score for a round, and might include very heavily mashed scores too, depending on how well the other players do. Note that being eliminated will disqualify you from getting any prizes, so for instance, if a division only has 2 people left at the final round, only 2 prizes will be given out for that division.

Schedule

This tournament will begin at 11:59 pm (New York time) on Saturday, June 4 - this is a week earlier than I first said, because there's more people signing up than I initially thought. I'll PM everyone when it starts. There will be 5 rounds, each lasting one week. Hopefully that will be enough time for everyone to be able to get scores in. I'll keep this post up to date with the end date/time of the current round.

Other Rules

1. No cheating. For instance, don't try to fake scores, don't hide your skills to get put in a way worse division, and don't have a more skilled friend get scores for you.

2. Don't publicly complain about what divisions people are placed in. I'm going to try my best, but some people will always feel wrongly placed because it's impossible to guarantee huge skill gaps between the top of one division and the bottom of the next higher one. If you publicly complain about your own placement, you WILL be moved up one. (If you PM or IM me about it, I'll be much more forgiving.)

3. I have the right to change a score, choose not to accept a score, disqualify a player, and so on. If I do this and don't provide a reason, you are free to ask me for one - it might just be a mistake, and if that's the case I'll correct it.

(more to come if I think of anything that needs clarification)

Prizes/Donations

I'm thinking of giving credits to the top 3 in each division, in a 3:2:1 ratio, but I'll increase it to 5 if I get enough participants. The number of available credits in each division will be (from top to bottom) 25%, 25%, 20%, 15%, 10%, 5%. I'd really appreciate donations (and so would anyone who's doing well in the tournament), just make sure to let me know if you send one in. I'll make sure to mention you here.

The current prize pot is 300,000 credits:
qqwref - 100,000
master q60 - 100,000
Im Vince - 50,000
JSH - 30,000
TheSaxRunner05 - 20,000


Round One (Ended 11:59 PM on June 11)

God Tier: Time to Eye
Division 5: Radio Heads
Division 4: R176
Division 3: Famouz
Division 2: I'm Just a DJ
Division 1: Sakura Blue Sky

Round Two (Ended 11:59 PM on June 18)

God Tier: Tageri
Division 5: Big Blue
Division 4: moon_child -Go with the flow-
Division 3: Amefuri Koneko
Division 2: Science Genius Girl
Division 1: PARANOiA ~Darkness Mix~

Round Three (Ended 11:59 PM on June 25)

God Tier: Schmollbluk
Division 5: bmv.578
Division 4: Variations 2
Division 3: Can Can (Piano Version)
Division 2: Maple Leaf Rag
Division 1: Let Mom Sleep

Round Four (Ended 11:59 PM on June 25)

God Tier: Winter Wind Etude
Division 5: The Adventures of Lolo
Division 4: 300
Division 3: Classical Insanity
Division 2: Youkuso! Himitsu no Janbaraya!
Division 1: Kick It


Final Round (Ended 11:59 PM on Sunday, July 10)

God Tier: Revolutionary Etude
Division 5: grind2
Division 4: BB Revenge
Division 3: M.A.M.A.
Division 2: Dragons Bane
Division 1: World of Dreams

Final Standings


Division 5
1. SocoNhydro420 - 89145 + 68175 + 61255 + 25750 + 40550 = 284875

Division 4
1. RagedBerserker - 49900 + 60200 + 62740 + 55390 + 118975 = 347205
2. master q60 - 49875 + 59910 + 62335 + 55160 + 118190 = 345470
3. igotrhythm - 49895 + 60025 + 62360 + 55220 + 116795 = 344295

Division 3
1. MaxGhost - 19575 + 43925 + 51650 + 54645 + 62600 = 232395
2. -zeroSKILL- - 19340 + 44000 + 51675 + 54850 + 61050 = 230915

Division 2
1. YOSHl - 33900 + 42050 + 57650 + 36130 + 38025 = 207755
2. hcmushroom - 33875 + 42025 + 57375 + 35595 + 37210 = 206080

Division 1
1. Everr - 30025 + 29100 + 24200 + 29325 + 51775 = 164425
2. typing like wat - 29675 + 28800 + 23675 + 28930 + 52360 = 163440
3. Zekramcross - 28625 + 28975 + 23710 + 28565 + 50450 = 160325

Results and Prizes


Division 5
1st place: SocoNhydro420 - 100,000 credits!

Division 4
1st place: RagedBerserker - 40,000 credits!
2nd place: master q60 - 26,667 credits!
3rd place: igotrhythm - 13,333 credits!

Division 3
1st place: MaxGhost - 36,000 credits!
2nd place: -zeroSKILL- - 24,000 credits!

Division 2
1st place: YOSHl - 24,000 credits!
2nd place: hcmushroom - 16,000 credits!

Division 1
1st place: Everr - 10,000 credits!
2nd place: typing like wat - 6,667 credits!
3rd place: Zekramcross - 3,333 credits!


Participants:
00Razor00
3lijah
alloyus
awein999
bballa48
botchi246
Elite Ninja
emulord
Everr
FFRGreen
Gun92
hcmushroom
ic0slay3r
igotrhythm
iironiic
Im Vince
jhro13
krunkykai22
master q60
Masquerade of Shadow
MaxGhost
MrPopadopalis25
New_pr0
NocturneAunamic
nois-or-e
Plan_Bsk81127
Poison-
psychoangel691
-pureSKILL-
RagedBerserker
remedy1502
retching oesophagus
rushyrulz
rusty_spoons
ScarletSky
SocoNhydro420
Soul.
swagged
TC_Halogen
Tidus810
typing like wat
VarleyisDance
wargasm1
xBBx Takedown
xXAll-ProXx
Xx{Midnight}xX
YOSHl
Zekramcross
-zeroSKILL-
~Zeta~
Ziergdsx18

psychoangel691 05-27-2011 10:22 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
approved and in ^_^

I would like d3 because of how rusty I am and the limited time I have to play due to a 2 month old but I leave it up to you.

TC_Halogen 05-27-2011 10:23 PM

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LOL

so in. Well-rounded players unite.

rusty_spoons 05-27-2011 10:30 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Would like to try this, in please :D

MaxGhost 05-27-2011 10:40 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Sweet concept. In :D

SocoNhydro420 05-27-2011 10:55 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
in~

krunkykai22 05-27-2011 10:59 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
What AJ said.

In.

Tidus810 05-27-2011 11:00 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
IN haha

ScarletSky 05-27-2011 11:04 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
In. But I may be gone for a week around the middle of June without computer access. Soo uhhh... anyway I can just submit late scores for the first round or so?
I don't know if I WILL be gone yet or not, or exactly when I'll be gone if I do leave. But it's for a job and I can very well just tell my employer "no, I gotta play FFR!".

igotrhythm 05-27-2011 11:16 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Ahahahahaha. LOVE this gimmick. Love it, love it, love it.

I'm still recovering from a donation I made to the DF 5th Custom tourney, but I suppose I could sweeten the pot with another 40K or so. The logical presumption would be to send donations to your account, but I'd like to know for sure. Also, I'd probably be effectively at the level I was at before my setup change due to the two-way requirement. A good example of that would be in the DF Welcome Back tourney, where I took 4th in D2.

xXAll-ProXx 05-27-2011 11:18 PM

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I won't be able to play from june 9th to june 17th but I'll still have one day to submit a score.

Also, INNNNN

D5

iironiic 05-27-2011 11:21 PM

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In. :] I like the originality xD

remedy1502 05-27-2011 11:24 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
In forrealz

Xx{Midnight}xX 05-27-2011 11:25 PM

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In

edit: this is gonna be fun because chances are my mirror scores will rape my non mirror scores being I play mirror on almost everysong.

bballa48 05-27-2011 11:28 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
In, but why no start till June 11th??? That's like... years away.

qqwref 05-27-2011 11:28 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScarletSky (Post 3475025)
In. But I may be gone for a week around the middle of June without computer access. Soo uhhh... anyway I can just submit late scores for the first round or so?

Sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bballa48 (Post 3475040)
In, but why no start till June 11th??? That's like... years away.

It's two weeks. Is that way too much? I didn't expect this many people to join this fast :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by igotrhythm (Post 3475030)
I'm still recovering from a donation I made to the DF 5th Custom tourney, but I suppose I could sweeten the pot with another 40K or so. The logical presumption would be to send donations to your account, but I'd like to know for sure.

Yeah, send any donations to this account.

FFRGreen 05-27-2011 11:31 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
me in

bballa48 05-27-2011 11:31 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qqwref (Post 3475041)

It's two weeks. Is that way too much? I didn't expect this many people to join this fast :p


Haha I mean it's not a huge deal, I just love tournaments. But I think you will find that within a week we will have PLENTY of people to start.

Soul. 05-28-2011 12:12 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
In please.

emulord 05-28-2011 12:14 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
In, Im probably a D4 player.

awein999 05-28-2011 12:39 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Great idea.

in emphatically.

Ziergdsx18 05-28-2011 12:55 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
In.

qqwref 05-28-2011 01:10 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Updated. I'm moving the start date forward to June 4 because there's more people signing up than I initially thought. I'll PM everyone when it starts. If this is a problem for anyone, let me know. ScarletSky currently has permission to be late in the 2nd round (which will be the same time as the 1st round initially was).

Soul. 05-28-2011 01:42 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Sound pretty good.

tofurox 05-28-2011 01:47 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
As of now, count me in too :). I may make some form of a credit donation too, not sure yet.

nois-or-e 05-28-2011 01:51 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Count me in mate, I am currently getting my ass handed to me in D2 in the other tourn, but i've had a long hiatus from playing due to stepping and studying. Would be happy with D2 or 3 cos I am ambidextrous as fuc at ffr and mirror/non-mirror makes no difference ;D

Soul. 05-28-2011 01:56 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Speaking of which, I want to be in D2 or D3 for this tournament. (If you don't mind) :s

RagedBerserker 05-28-2011 02:06 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
So in for this tournament... D4?

xXAll-ProXx 05-28-2011 09:31 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
well this sucks :( I can't participate cause the tourney starts earlier. take me out.

I'm pretty much not able to submit a score until June 17th, now that it's gonna start on 4th, I'm definitely not able to play.

not complaining, this is obviously better for those people who are really interested in playing as soon as possible :P

New_pr0 05-28-2011 09:31 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
I love the idea. I'm in. D3. Time to show my skills with mirror/nonmirror

hcmushroom 05-28-2011 11:17 AM

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in d1 :)

ScarletSky 05-28-2011 01:08 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by New_pr0 (Post 3475274)
I love the idea. I'm in. D3. Time to show my skills with mirror/nonmirror

A ****. D:
I suck with doing songs on the opposite of what I usually do, I request D2.. especially since this boy here will eat me alive.

retching oesophagus 05-28-2011 01:37 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
in

qqwref 05-28-2011 02:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xXAll-ProXx (Post 3475273)
I'm pretty much not able to submit a score until June 17th, now that it's gonna start on 4th, I'm definitely not able to play.

You can submit both 1st and 2nd round scores around the 17th if you want. All eliminations will be for very large differences (like 100+ good equivalent) so this won't be a problem for other players.

Also, updated.

xXAll-ProXx 05-28-2011 02:18 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
AWESOME. thanks qqwref

Xx{Midnight}xX 05-28-2011 02:19 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScarletSky (Post 3475359)
A ****. D:
I suck with doing songs on the opposite of what I usually do, I request D2.. especially since this boy here will eat me alive.

I'm hurt you're more afraid of him than me :D
lol I kid I kid. Playing Mirror/non mirror is easy except for songs like MAMA Klung Kung and songs with trills.

ScarletSky 05-28-2011 02:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX (Post 3475411)
I'm hurt you're more afraid of him than me :D
lol I kid I kid. Playing Mirror/non mirror is easy except for songs like MAMA Klung Kung and songs with trills.

I play MAMA like a beast on Mirror (as apposed to getting ass raped on non-mirror). :3 But I get what you mean.

VarleyisDance 05-28-2011 03:22 PM

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i'm in

~Zeta~ 05-28-2011 03:34 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
In.

alloyus 05-28-2011 03:35 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Also in~

swagged 05-28-2011 03:46 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
IN

qqwref 05-30-2011 07:09 PM

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Updated :)

Xx{Midnight}xX 05-30-2011 07:10 PM

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Prepare to lose to my magical mirror/nonmirror awesomeness.

Poison- 05-30-2011 07:44 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Hmmm. Interesting. I'm in. I'll donate some credits in the next few days :)

I'm loving all of these tournaments. They're definitely helping me improve :)

Everr 05-31-2011 10:29 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
In and I'll probably put some in for the pot later on :P this is pretty intresting and I really wanna do it to because I dont really know which songs Id do better in playing on mirror so (: this will definatly lower some rank on some songs. Im either top of D1 or bottom of d2 but I dont mind which one Im put in and the other two tournaments Ive joined they have signed me up for D1 but idk what your expecting for each division either so place me where I should go (:

YoshL 05-31-2011 10:33 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
In for D2 (please).



Please ignore the random [oni] get.

XCV 05-31-2011 10:57 AM

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*exhales*

Guess I'm in for D2 or D3. Ignore the [Heavy] get.

EDIT: Although I'll be gone June 14-17. If a round doesn't end in the middle of that I'll have to submit late. Same with the 26th, although I'm leaving for a lot longer then.

botchi246 05-31-2011 11:09 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
im in

ic0slay3r 05-31-2011 11:20 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
In. :)

master q60 05-31-2011 11:20 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
You no joke stole my idea =*( but still in =)

I was going to call mine mirror/rorrim tounrament

00Razor00 05-31-2011 01:50 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
In d4 plz.

JSH 05-31-2011 02:34 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
I'm in :)

-zeroSKILL- 06-1-2011 02:06 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
I'll try a tourney. Maybe it'll push me back up to my old skill.

Please keep in mind when placing me I haven't played in over a year, and only recently started playing again about a week ago. The best AAA's I've got so far are on 8's with less than 600 notes in them.

Please take my lack of playing into consideration when placing me :P. If I start to get my old skill level back I will let you know if I feel I should be in a division higher than what I was placed.

FFRGreen 06-1-2011 02:30 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
I wasn't added to the list just wondering if you just forgot about me.

qqwref 06-1-2011 02:45 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FFRGreen (Post 3477995)
I wasn't added to the list just wondering if you just forgot about me.

I did, sorry. You're added now.

Updated.

rushyrulz 06-1-2011 02:48 AM

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in

Razor, quit trying to get into D4, some of your FGO scores are better than people in D6.

ScarletSky 06-1-2011 03:07 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rushyrulz (Post 3478006)
in

Razor, quit trying to get into D4, some of your FGO scores are better than people in D6.

this shit right here >.>

MaxGhost 06-1-2011 03:11 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 00Razor00 (Post 3477428)
In d4 plz.

D5 hands down.

JSH 06-1-2011 03:34 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Sorry but I can't participate D:

I did donate 30,000 though
So good luck to everyone~

jhro13 06-1-2011 10:26 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
IN!

qqwref 06-2-2011 12:14 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Updated. Thanks for the donation JSH :)

-pureSKILL- 06-2-2011 02:20 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
In please
However, I haven't played in like 2 years and I just started playing again a week ago. If you like, I can play some songs to give you an idea on where I should be placed.
Thanks :)

-zeroSKILL- 06-2-2011 02:21 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
And yay, I got her to sign up :D.

qqwref 06-2-2011 02:45 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -pureSKILL- (Post 3478778)
In please
However, I haven't played in like 2 years and I just started playing again a week ago. If you like, I can play some songs to give you an idea on where I should be placed.
Thanks :)

Sure, that would help a lot. You can post or PM me some scores (I don't need screenshots for this).

master q60 06-2-2011 11:15 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
donated 100,000 credits because now i dont want to make my own tournament on this anymore.

Gun92 06-2-2011 11:19 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
In I supposed. Never played the opposite so it should be fun.

Zekramcross 06-2-2011 12:16 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Mirror/Non-Mirror sounds like fun. I'm in for D1 this would help me improve a lot. This is going to be a little hectic for me since I am now, counting this one, in three tournaments, but I will try my best not to score late.

NocturneAunamic 06-2-2011 12:19 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
in

XCV 06-2-2011 01:30 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Wait, so it starts the 11th? That MIGHT be a problem, because I'm going to be gone from the 26th to July 16th.

Masquerade of Shadow 06-2-2011 03:12 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
This sounds amazing, In <3

-zeroSKILL- 06-3-2011 06:19 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Update time?

Im Vince 06-3-2011 06:28 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
In, I haven't played in a while, so I doubt I can still play that well. D5 maybe?

typing like wat 06-3-2011 07:52 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
well according to most people im should be in D2

qqwref 06-4-2011 02:16 AM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Updated. Thanks for the donation master q60 :D

The tournament is starting later today (in about 22 hours). I haven't actually placed people yet, but I will have it finished by then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by XCV (Post 3478983)
Wait, so it starts the 11th? That MIGHT be a problem, because I'm going to be gone from the 26th to July 16th.

It starts the 4th. That's a lot of time to miss though (about 3 full rounds) and the tournament will be over by the 16th since it's 5 weeks long. So hopefully you'll be able to get on FFR in that time.

TheSaxRunner05 06-4-2011 11:58 AM

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Since I wont be in it I'll donate -

3lijah 06-4-2011 01:17 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
I kinda want to participate. Is that cool?

XCV 06-4-2011 01:23 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qqwref (Post 3480378)
Updated. Thanks for the donation master q60 :D

The tournament is starting later today (in about 22 hours). I haven't actually placed people yet, but I will have it finished by then.


It starts the 4th. That's a lot of time to miss though (about 3 full rounds) and the tournament will be over by the 16th since it's 5 weeks long. So hopefully you'll be able to get on FFR in that time.

Nope, unless the folks at WKU are kind enough to let me bang on their keyboards. D:

Im Vince 06-4-2011 01:25 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
Just donated 50k :)

3lijah 06-4-2011 01:46 PM

Re: Fearful Symmetry Tournament
 
I would donate, but im still saving up for all the Secret songs. I only have 127k.


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