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darkshark 04-18-2011 12:56 AM

Portfolio
 
Been working on getting a better portfolio together for a while, and here's what I've got so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu44vkkPrnM

I need to try and get permission for as much of the stuff I've done at work as I can without making it seem obvious that I'm using it for a portfolio rofl, so all that stuff will likely go into it in the next few days as long as they're cool with the permission giving.

Any thoughts or comments thus far?

Youtube dumbs down the quality a ton, but the version I'm working on is full 720p.

BethanyBangs 04-18-2011 01:06 AM

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Wow all of this is amazing. D: I love it. The bot is cute as hell btw, XD All of the stuff for the rhythm games were nice too!

darkshark 04-18-2011 12:13 PM

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This has nothing to do with the portfolio. Good luck everyone.

JenovaSephiroth 04-18-2011 01:49 PM

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I fully approve of this.

Both the portfolio and the thing that has nothing to do with the portfolio.

m0de 04-18-2011 02:32 PM

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so do you plan on designing something for ffr? thats all i can get out of this "good luck everyone" comment. although im not sure exactly what it might be.. just assuming youre designing something for ffr :o?

edit: Well you found me... Congratulations. Was it worth it.

still feel like im missing something

edit2: Do you think it would be that easy?

working on it..

m0de 04-18-2011 02:47 PM

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do i get a pat on the back or a handshake if i solve this <_<

Reincarnate 04-18-2011 02:47 PM

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awesome transformer is awesome

rushyrulz 04-18-2011 02:51 PM

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I found that too mode. It's actually
Wellaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa youb found me... Congaaaaaaratulations. Was it bbbbbworth it.aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaccccccccccccccccccccccccc

if that helps

Reincarnate 04-18-2011 02:56 PM

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lolololol i wonder if anyone is as far as me right now?

m0de 04-18-2011 02:59 PM

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no.. im stuck at the moment on "Did you think it would be that easy" .. how far along are you rubix?

darkshark 04-18-2011 03:00 PM

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Oh my. Getting interesting.

Reincarnate 04-18-2011 03:00 PM

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oh son of a bitch i don't know how to decode this piece, I'm not versed enough at this part


EDIT: I've found the new engine and I've got half of the new content decoded -- other half is like :| fuuuuuuuuuuuu. know what it refers too, but my know-how here is limited

Brycexx 04-18-2011 03:00 PM

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Transformer desk was awesome.

JenovaSephiroth 04-18-2011 03:06 PM

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I've been at the end, bro. :P

Though I'm pretty sure that once you find the engine, you made it all the way. I'm not 100% sure though, as I sure as hell didn't make this. :V

Reincarnate 04-18-2011 03:10 PM

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I don't think it's the end but I can't tell

darkshark 04-18-2011 03:12 PM

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This is onlyyyyyyyyyyy the beginnnnnnninggggggggggggggg.

Reincarnate 04-18-2011 03:20 PM

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oh COME ON that answer was brilliant

rushyrulz 04-18-2011 03:22 PM

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idk where u guys are finding sufficient clues, I'm totally dead stuck.

m0de 04-18-2011 03:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rushyrulz (Post 3452461)
idk where u guys are finding sufficient clues, I'm totally dead stuck.

same. i need like 3 cups of coffee right now to get my head working right

Reincarnate 04-18-2011 03:31 PM

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nevermind solved it

*By this I mean figured out what the other garbage was for -- wasn't needed in the first place

darkshark 04-18-2011 03:35 PM

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Rofl. Gj.

Though this one isn't all that hard.

Reincarnate 04-18-2011 03:36 PM

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the second half to the near-end portion is totally not needed but i see why it's there -- kinda misleading
aka engine's the end

anticlimactic imo. come on, vel

darkshark 04-18-2011 03:40 PM

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Yeah but it's a clever way of letting you guys know what we're working on haha.
If the portfolio wasn't clue enough.

Coolboyrulez0 04-18-2011 05:35 PM

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nice "portfolio"

my only gripe would be that i think you should switch the location of the dance 2 button with the dance button.
Looks odd if you go from dance 2 (horizontally speaking that is) to dance (1).

Otherwise, stunning job.

darkshark 04-18-2011 08:19 PM

Re: Portfolio
 
Been getting some "glam shots" ready of vehicles. These shots are using the highest render settings I've ever used, and are taking about 4 hours per frame to render (rendered on a 48 core renderstation + an 8 core tower + 2 dual core laptops all at once)
Here's a prepassed light cache. (laymans terms: very rough draft pass before a final render)


darkshark 04-19-2011 12:19 AM

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Ohay it finished.




Thatskier 04-19-2011 12:24 AM

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I honestly dont see what you are getting after here.

darkshark 04-19-2011 12:28 AM

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This thread is no longer about the hidden messages in portfolios, and is now about actual portfolios.

BethanyBangs 04-19-2011 12:38 AM

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So there might be a profile design like what you showed in the vid? That's cute.
c:

darkshark 04-19-2011 12:39 AM

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Bethany I think the whole thing went right over your head.

Thatskier 04-19-2011 12:49 AM

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What the **** is this damn thread about anyways?!

-Going insane-

darkshark 04-19-2011 12:56 AM

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Originally it was about my portfolio, and then it was about the secrets hidden within my portfolio, and now it's about my portfolio because a few people figured it out(actually looks like 2 people figured it out rofl)

Cold Kitten 04-19-2011 01:41 AM

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I half got it. xD Then I gave up, cause I couldn't figure out anything (if there was anything) after I got to the engine.

darkshark 04-19-2011 01:43 AM

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You did not get to the engine.

It logs everyone who's reached it.

Cold Kitten 04-19-2011 01:51 AM

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weird. I got to something that was an engine, then.

EDIT: derp, I'm stupid. I've still only gotten to "Did you think it would be that easy?".

Annnd now I don't know where to go, eff it.

flashpantss 04-19-2011 01:55 AM

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eh, was congratulated, but that is probably not the final destination. Good job on all the animations and stuff, it's all so epic.

darkshark 04-19-2011 02:32 AM

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The "congratulations" is only the first stage.

flashpantss 04-19-2011 02:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by darkshark (Post 3452818)
The "congratulations" is only the first stage.

Yeah, I got the word too, just don't know how to use it in the URL (assuming it's used in there).

darkshark 04-19-2011 12:04 PM

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So far this looks pretty good.

Any suggestions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC8r0fiDdH8

I could still up the quality a ton, which I certainly will when I go to put it on a DVD, but watch it in HD!

who_cares973 04-19-2011 12:18 PM

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h8 u velo


pretty sick portfolio though enjoyed watching. music kinda didnt seem fitting might just be me though

darkshark 04-19-2011 12:40 PM

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If you got to the beta engine, you didn't find it(which will happen). If you got to a brand new engine you've never seen before, you found it.

There's a ton of other things I really want to put into this, but a demo reel shouldn't be any longer than it already is.

The transformer will be updated cause I'm still working on that, probably drop it into a room scene later today and have him smash real stuff instead of blocks.

Any suggestions for music choices? I've had to slow down that track more and more as the reel got longer haha.

who_cares973 04-19-2011 01:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by darkshark (Post 3452917)
Any suggestions for music choices? I've had to slow down that track more and more as the reel got longer haha.

this would be good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgYnRh8ACGQ

kidding aside

i like the way this plays with the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cMLxvSIO7k

though im not too sure how appealing that song is to most people

maybe this too http://www.last.fm/music/Ray+Rush/Ep...ut/World+Sound

ronald jenkees http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBcZdNY6LdY

some SGX http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VulkzCQjm0

darkshark 04-19-2011 01:40 PM

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Ronald Jenkees - Clutter = Amazing.

This song should go perfect with it. wc to the rescue. <3

who_cares973 04-19-2011 01:46 PM

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i tried only going for artist in which you'd easily get permission to in case you would need it.

welcome ds <3

darkshark 04-19-2011 02:05 PM

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Welp, not all too sure about that one now. It's alright, but you don't get any sort of connection between the song and the video. =(

Maybe I should speed the original song I had back up to normal speed and just splice it out to extend it some, I thought the music went well with it when it wasn't slowed down 30%

Cold Kitten 04-19-2011 03:09 PM

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Well, I got past the congratulations. Just not a clue how to get past that. Anyway.

Can't watch the updated portfolio yet. D: At school, and they have YouTube blocked. Will watch when I get home though.

darkshark 04-19-2011 04:08 PM

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http://onionhide.info

Presto, youtube unblocked.

Cold Kitten 04-19-2011 05:04 PM

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Meh, I'm just too lazy to put a proxy on a flash drive and bring it with me. xD I'll do that later.

In any case, I'm home now. Watching.

EDIT: Looks great. As it's already been said: Music could be better. Or, at the least, faster. I like the piece itself. That 3D modeling stuff is awesome though.

darkshark 04-21-2011 12:46 AM

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Switched the music over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QTaRkBLN7U

I failed to get permission for quite a few things =(
I mainly just wanted the zline indycar because that was an epic project. I'm working on something right now at work that I'd like to include in this, has to be done by Wednesday so we'll see, I'm applying to a bunch of places on craigslist and careerbuilder right now. Rockstar LA, Zynga, and a few startups are hiring, not a huge selection this time of year it seems.

Reincarnate 04-21-2011 02:15 PM

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I thought you worked for ZLine?

darkshark 04-21-2011 02:57 PM

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I still do. There's nothing wrong with trying to move on to bigger and better things. Animating furniture is holding me back, I've got so much more potential that's being wasted working at Z-Line.

I'm also underpaid for what I do.

Reincarnate 04-21-2011 03:07 PM

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Shoot for Dreamworks/Pixar/etc

darkshark 04-21-2011 05:03 PM

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Pixar is a no, as they use Autodesk Maya instead of 3ds Max, some sort of division of Dreamworks is a possibility, as they use both software packages.

I'm really going to try and shoot for ILM, Tippet, Pixomondo (did Suckerpunch), TransparentHouse, maybe even Blizzard or something.

Hopefully something good. I started pretty high up in terms of "foot in the door" considering I didn't go to school for this stuff, and the guy I replaced had a double masters degree. It can only get better from here.

Thatskier 04-21-2011 06:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by darkshark (Post 3453885)
Pixar is a no, as they use Autodesk Maya instead of 3ds Max, some sort of division of Dreamworks is a possibility, as they use both software packages.

I'm really going to try and shoot for ILM, Tippet, Pixomondo (did Suckerpunch), TransparentHouse, maybe even Blizzard or something.

Hopefully something good. I started pretty high up in terms of "foot in the door" considering I didn't go to school for this stuff, and the guy I replaced had a double masters degree. It can only get better from here.


You did not go to school for this.

GOOD LUCK.

darkshark 04-21-2011 06:30 PM

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Artistic positions don't need schooling.

Seriously I don't think you've even made one post where you actually thought about what you were saying before posting it.

Thatskier 04-21-2011 06:31 PM

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Hah, sometimes, but this one....

alright this is a question i thought about... what did u major and minor in and at what school?

darkshark 04-21-2011 06:46 PM

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I went to a community college and took all of the fun classes and then dropped out. I had no major or minor. Instead I chose to sleep every other day and teach myself faster than a school could.

The only class I took that dealt with 3ds Max was in highschool, and it just taught the basics.

Reincarnate 04-21-2011 08:20 PM

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Some people simply don't need college if they have the necessary skillsets to pull themselves through the industry. Once you land an interview, that's all that matters. From there it's all a function of your skill.

Thatskier 04-21-2011 11:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Reincarnate (Post 3453995)
Some people simply don't need college if they have the necessary skillsets to pull themselves through the industry. Once you land an interview, that's all that matters. From there it's all a function of your skill.


Yes but i can tell you that almost 100% of the time, if you go to college you are going to make more money than not going to college. You also look much more respectable. Honest to god its the time of your life. Not going not only hurts your chances in the real world, but you just won't the same satisfaction out of life as going. Now i don't have a clue how your family has done in terms of money, but even if they were doing bad, smart kids want the education. America is a land of given opprotunity for a great education, by not going you are being a selfish kid who isnt ready for the real world. So i have heard you went to a respectable college rubix. +1 respect points.

Reincarnate 04-22-2011 09:34 AM

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Well, the reason why many people make more money going to college is because they're generally not capable of self-teaching everything they'd need to know, and they're usually smarter/from better-off families to begin with, depending.

I went to an Ivy but came from a family that didn't prioritize education -- and while most of my classmates were smart, they were smart coming in and would have been smart anywhere else and supported no matter what because a lot of them came from rich families. For many people, connections are what land you work -- especially in a down economy.

So even if you're smart/talented, going to college is really more of a signaling device. If I am an employer looking to invest in hiring someone, you want to ensure your investment is as riskless as possible, which is why colleges signal something positive whereas lack of college may be seen as "What went wrong, here?" You at least know that the college grad was sufficiently exposed to the relevant material and if the GPA is high then you know that person is capable. Without that information, a candidate is seen as risky/potentially less-skilled.

However, this depends on how much ass you kick. If you have an absolutely stunning portfolio and you can hold your own in an interview and show that you're talented/skillful/intelligent/hardworking with plenty of evidence to support it all... that's ultimately the end goal of what college is meant to teach you. Plenty of people slump through college and get the signaling device but lack the underlying assets. All advertisement and little value. Darkshark's portfolio is totally on-par with the portfolios of my friends from the digital media school at my alma mater and so he's definitely got the ability even without the fancy school. And, if you think about it, that's a great position to be in. No student loan debt is hugely advantageous.

So while I'm not knocking college in general, as I think it's hugely important for most people... in the end, brains/talents *always* win.

midnghtraver 04-24-2011 12:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thatskier (Post 3454119)
Yes but i can tell you that almost 100% of the time, if you go to college you are going to make more money than not going to college. You also look much more respectable. Honest to god its the time of your life. Not going not only hurts your chances in the real world, but you just won't the same satisfaction out of life as going. Now i don't have a clue how your family has done in terms of money, but even if they were doing bad, smart kids want the education. America is a land of given opprotunity for a great education, by not going you are being a selfish kid who isnt ready for the real world. So i have heard you went to a respectable college rubix. +1 respect points.

Terrible artist w/ college degree
Great artist w/o college degree

Same job = Great artist gets hired.

Yes a college degree always helps but the job isn't about who has the collage degree, its who has art skills.

Plus your a freshman, you cant really be making that argument.

EDIT: College isn't the only way to get education.

EDIT 2: Do research on who your arguing against first, DS is NOT a selfish kid who isn't ready for the real world.

Spenner 04-24-2011 09:59 PM

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It can go hand in hand, because by going to school you learn a lot of the business side from people with first hand experience, and by knowing what you must do in certain corporate situations that can make you a better artist, with that knowledge.

So if it's for a corporate identity, it's leaning towards the better artist IF they can demonstrate the skills needed to promote business oriented material, not just art for the sake of art.

So yeah knowledge is key, doesn't make college a requirement but a very cherishable experience.

darkshark 04-25-2011 01:01 AM

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College was just never my cup of tea, the learning pace is too slow.
I actually might disagree with you on the "business side" comment, as I've actually found that schools almost teach absolutely nothing about the business side of things. It's more something you need to figure out with hands-on experience. They give you the skills needed to complete professional business quality work, but they can't teach you creativity. Not to mention, your education is only worth the effort you choose to put into it.

Mythix 04-28-2011 09:34 PM

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I get my bachelor in modelling and animation next year.


Let me tell you this, every single one who wants to learn, master and work with 3D animation or CG:

Don't f**king pay to learn this. You'll still sit, at home, alone, searching the web, contacting other artists and working tens of hour a day to master something you've set out to learn. You know what they tell you at school?

Google it.


Yes, EA and Pixar based schools that are linked to great agencies make your portfolio float more smoothly, but every hotkey, every tweak.. You find it yourself. There's no shortcuts. No magic button, magic settings and no easy fix. Unless you want to be stuck making commercials and mmorpg graphics...

Cheers.

darkshark 04-30-2011 08:47 PM

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You're right. Though you've come a really long way from the time when you had first picked up 3d artistry, I have no doubt that even if you didn't go to school, you'd probably be somewhere around the same level just from the sheer fact that you really enjoy doing this stuff.

Mythix 05-9-2011 06:17 AM

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I just feel like I really can't stress it enough... "Good artis w degree vs good artist without, artist with degree gets job" <- this is pretty much wrong. I mean, theoretically, yes.

But two persons are never on the exact same skill levels, and all the greatest animators, modellers and so on rarely have a degree of any type, and those with decades in the business knows how to seperate talent from mainstreamers. School is just a push in the correct direction, after that it's pure skill, talent and mentality, your papers won't really be noticed.

"Oh this portfolio sucks, the modelling is bad and the animation is mediocre. Did he make this in windows movi- OH BUT HE HAS 3 YEARS OF SCHOOL!! HIRE HIM!" doesn't happen, ever.

But "Man that kid had one sick portfolio, so clean and organized. No school? He sure has talent, lets grab him!" is way WAY more probable.

What exactly -is- school? They won't show exactly how to solve your problems, only link tutorials. You don't learn anything from them just showing you the solution.
Sure, if you encounter that exact same problem again. But every model and scene are of such complexity you will run into so many problems, you must know how to approach them to solve them on your own.

If you can't force yourself to sit infront of your computer, work 5 hours a day for a week on a project, having to go to schoon 9 in the morning doesn't make it funnier, easier or more worthwhile, and you'll be one of those 60% that simply never make it in the business. I went to school, and none of the people in my class are truly talented. We have three people who are extraterrestical in skill; but they had worked 3 years before they even thought about school. Using thousands of hours because they had a notch for it, willing to work on the same project for months to make sure they knew exactly how to do it.

The rest of the class just pay the school and fill space, every tenth minute they have to ask how to do something, then just copy what they saw. Sure, teacher explains why but it's in one ear, and out the other, unless they go home, try hundreds of different solutions until they realize how it works, or start over and do -everything- again (easily 100 hours spent on that on my car) for days. Which you don't need a school desk to do or understand.

I feel like this thread shouldn't die, because people don't know how bad their portfolios are, or useless. Sure, lots of cool text effects and fast camera blinking, but unless it's an editing portfolio, all they want to see is well-angled 3D related work.

0 09-7-2013 11:01 AM

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cool

Choofers 09-7-2013 02:11 PM

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cool

mi40 09-7-2013 02:17 PM

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fakefolio

Gundam-Dude 09-7-2013 02:24 PM

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lmfao

Coolboyrulez0 09-7-2013 05:54 PM

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swage

Choofers 09-7-2013 05:55 PM

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swage

Wayward Vagabond 09-7-2013 07:27 PM

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ballin

Riotpolice 09-7-2013 07:31 PM

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I'll bet he lied about eating too....


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