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Sakish 03-19-2011 09:43 PM

World war 3 possibilities?
 
So it all started out with:
Usa, france and great brittain are in fully armed and ready to send missiles towards libya.

Secondly i heard that:
Usa and france had actually sent 112 missiles towards libya.

And then..
Libya shoots down one of france's planes.

Speculations/opinions about the starting war?

ichliebekase 03-19-2011 09:47 PM

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_us_libya

^ More info. Not sure of the validity of the article since it repeats a sentence. Just seems a little fishy with this article but it's the only thing I've seen.

devonin 03-19-2011 10:22 PM

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Why is the UN getting involved in a civil war?

XCV 03-19-2011 10:33 PM

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Oh dear god. I'm scared...

This better not happen. I don't want to die when I'm 17 years old.

HoneyMelonCalibrator 03-19-2011 10:40 PM

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I'm surprised there hasn't been a thread regarding Libya up until now tbh.

devonin 03-19-2011 10:42 PM

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There is no chance whatsoever of some kind of "world war" happening. If direct military intervention happens, the West will just pummel Libya into submission in a week and move on from there.

ichliebekase 03-19-2011 10:43 PM

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Iraq, part 2.

iironiic 03-19-2011 10:46 PM

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Why is it so difficult to drill the fact that war is so stupid? People continue to baffle me.

DossarLX ODI 03-19-2011 10:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iironiic (Post 3437472)
Why is it so difficult to drill the fact that war is so stupid? People continue to baffle me.

This is something I've thought too. Every single time there has been a world war, all that's happened is useless destruction and then countries have to recover again.

How could people prevent war from being a possibility?

argo15 03-19-2011 11:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI (Post 3437477)
How could people prevent war from being a possibility?

All you need is one stupid, evil leader. Either he will attack somebody or he will oppress his people until they revolt. All countries in the world would have to create a system in which the government is non-violent and the people will be generally happy to live there

as for world war 3, I don't expect Libya has many allies right now.

Quigly 03-19-2011 11:18 PM

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time for the draft

iamgoodhehe 03-20-2011 12:04 AM

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Seems more like Libya getting ****ed over but when you think about it, other countries are also going to get involved. This is so stupid of the U.N.

AsphyxZero 03-20-2011 01:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iironiic (Post 3437472)
Why is it so difficult to drill the fact that war is so stupid? People continue to baffle me.

Human nature.

Crashfan3 03-20-2011 03:07 AM

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Oh you have got to be ****ing kidding me. We have our hands full in Afghanistan, we're sending aid to Japan, and we're trying to keep things calm in Pakistan as riots begin to surface there.

Quote:

In announcing the mission during a visit to Brazil, President Barack Obama said he was reluctant to resort to force but was convinced it was necessary to save the lives of civilians. He reiterated that he would not send American ground troops to Libya.

"We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy," he said in Brasilia.
So why do we have to be the hero, Mr. Obama? Libya has done nothing to the US and the entire conflict is remaining inside of Libya. Gaddafi may be an evil tyrant but it's none of our business.

On-topic: I don't see this little fledgling of a war evolving into World War III. To compare it to WWII, Nazi Germany was hell-bent on conquering all of Europe (and nearly succeeded) and it affected multiple countries, which sparked such a big war. The US had a good reason to get involved because the Axis Japanese effed up Pearl Harbor. This conflict is between Libya and apparently now the US/UK. Unless something goes berserk and half a dozen other countries decide to get involved, WWIII is unlikely to occur.

ScylaX 03-20-2011 07:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devonin (Post 3437450)
Why is the UN getting involved in a civil war?

To what I read in french newspapers, the initiative was from Sarkozy but since the USA didn't want to be military involved in this conflict, they just rejected this project.
However, some people (as Bernard-Henri Lévy, the newspaper only talk about him but I highly doubt that a lone person that isn't a politician (he's a philosopher) can have a so high influence) that knows/are friends with Sarkozy and have high influence on him wanted him to launch missiles on the Libyan army to help the revolution.

So in short it's more an indenpendent act that emanes from France that haven't been prevented by the UN. Then GB and USA joined the cause.

Quote:

Seems more like Libya getting ****ed over but when you think about it, other countries are also going to get involved. This is so stupid of the U.N.
Yes and no.
Yes because you're right about the fact there are other countries IN africa that are in a higher crisis since a lot of decades (Sudan, Ethiopa, Kenya...). If we priviledge one country, we should morally priviledge every country that are in the same case so there isn't any discrimination or anything.
No because the Libya circumstances are REALLY mediatized all over the world and the medias have a high influence on the strategy of politicians.

krunkykai22 03-20-2011 09:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devonin (Post 3437450)
Why is the UN getting involved in a civil war?

I believe they got involved because someone went to the Security Council about Libya. So they held a meeting and warned Gadhafi to not attack. He told many UN officials "Libya is not yours. Libya is ours." But, told Obama "How would you feel if you were in this position." Was nice to the USA leader, but snarky with others. The UN warned him that if an attack was to happen we would intervene. And so it happened.

kommisar 03-20-2011 10:19 AM

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Unless Libya has any sort of allies I don't see this becoming any sort of world war. They're already stupidly outnumbered.

who_cares973 03-20-2011 10:19 AM

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north korea outta nowhere

krunkykai22 03-20-2011 02:26 PM

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Well in the article Ichlie posted and others online, you'll see that Gadhafi has really powerful military arsenal. He could easily take over Benghazi. That's what we're trying to prevent. Taking out the big rebel leaders is what this is all about. If Gadhafi does that he will have backing. It's crucial we prevent that. As he said, he vows a "long war."

Vendetta21 03-21-2011 07:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devonin (Post 3437450)
Why is the UN getting involved in a civil war?

Quote:

With an area of almost 1,800,000 square kilometres (700,000 sq mi), Libya is the fourth largest country in Africa by area, and the 17th largest in the world.[10] The capital, Tripoli, is home to 1.7 million of Libya's 6.4 million people. The three traditional parts of the country are Tripolitania, Fezzan, and Cyrenaica. Libya has the highest HDI in Africa and the fourth highest GDP (PPP) per capita in Africa as of 2009, behind Seychelles, Equatorial Guinea and Gabon. These are largely due to its large petroleum reserves and low population.[11][12] Libya is one of the world's 10 richest oil-producing countries.
Hope that helps.

Sweet_Feet 03-21-2011 07:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devonin (Post 3437468)
There is no chance whatsoever of some kind of "world war" happening. If direct military intervention happens, the West will just pummel Libya into submission in a week and move on from there.

This

TehWhack 03-21-2011 07:51 PM

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It disgusts me, media in general.

There are several other warlords and tyrants in Africa and South West Asia that would make Gaddafi look like a feeble kitten, yet we live in ignorant bliss.

Crashfan3 03-22-2011 02:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TehWhack (Post 3438537)
It disgusts me, media in general.

There are several other warlords and tyrants in Africa and South West Asia that would make Gaddafi look like a feeble kitten, yet we live in ignorant bliss.

QFT.

We do still have the issue of Somalia. I mean, at least Libya has a somewhat civilized government, albeit corrupt. Somalia is an anarchist state whose people trade blood for money, and all that happens when they pull a stunt or kill some foreign nationals is they get a week or two of media attention at best before they're brushed under the rug.

Actually that's probably what will happen with Libya as well unless Gaddafi does something that the UN might truly give a damn about, but it's kind of hard for him to do anything of that calibre with the forces of multiple nations breathing down his neck.

Vendetta21 03-22-2011 09:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TehWhack (Post 3438537)
It disgusts me, media in general.

There are several other warlords and tyrants in Africa and South West Asia that would make Gaddafi look like a feeble kitten, yet we live in ignorant bliss.

Not enough oil in those countries.


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