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iCeCuBEz v2 12-11-2011 12:46 AM

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post sucked don't know what i'm talking about.... disregard the whole slew of anecdotal evidence I gave to give my opinion about the legality of drugs in America.

cornmaker 12-17-2011 10:28 AM

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drugs are the small escape for people who are stressed, curious, have problems, etc.
no i don't support drugs because we all know that's bad not only for health. people are just using drugs for some reason that can be fix even if they're not using it. they just felt like they're on cloud nine, they forget their problems while using it that's why they're getting addicted to it.

fido123 12-17-2011 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cornmaker (Post 3592389)
drugs are the small escape for people who are stressed, curious, have problems, etc.
no i don't support drugs because we all know that's bad not only for health. people are just using drugs for some reason that can be fix even if they're not using it. they just felt like they're on cloud nine, they forget their problems while using it that's why they're getting addicted to it.

Have you ever smokd marajuana? If you did you'd know it's not an escape for anything. Alcohol on the other hand blocks something in the brain that makes you give a crap about stuff therefore you don't care about stuff and that's an escape. Marajuana is a way to have a little fun, with a trade off I can easily handle. Besides it being illigal, considering I don't have any conflicting conditions the only way it negativly effects me is my lungs, and when used in moderation you're not doing a significant amount of damage to them.

There are many reasons why people do drugs, and many people use drugs for the reason you just stated, but not all drugs nor all reasons for doing them are the same and I think you need to consider that a bit more.


EDIT: Some drugs are used for no recreational purpose what-so-ever. Drugs like LSD and Psiolcybin (shrooms) can be done for help understanding yourself and the world around you and can lead to many positive life changes.

Spenner 12-17-2011 06:06 PM

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But it IS an escape, from a close minded daily life to an open minded tranquil moment, for however long it lasts. It can be harnessed to make positive life changes as well, because of the level of focus it garners to the user, and new solutions to problems can be welcomed or scouted out.

If anything, alcohol is like solitary confinement, where the thoughts and ideas are smothered with padded walls so that they can't do any harm, whereas with the high it's like opening the walls of that padded room. Which can be good or bad, it depends on how the person is.

Moderation being key 'course. Basically the problems arise when people compare the medicated mentality with their sober one and find that the sober one is insufficient to get them through the day.

aperson 12-25-2011 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Spenner (Post 3592640)
But it IS an escape, from a close minded daily life to an open minded tranquil moment, for however long it lasts. It can be harnessed to make positive life changes as well, because of the level of focus it garners to the user, and new solutions to problems can be welcomed or scouted out.

If anything, alcohol is like solitary confinement, where the thoughts and ideas are smothered with padded walls so that they can't do any harm, whereas with the high it's like opening the walls of that padded room. Which can be good or bad, it depends on how the person is.

Moderation being key 'course. Basically the problems arise when people compare the medicated mentality with their sober one and find that the sober one is insufficient to get them through the day.

Everything you ever say should be prefaced with "In my mind, "

MagicCarpetRide 12-25-2011 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by aperson (Post 3598277)
Everything you ever say should be prefaced with "In my mind, "

I think that's kind of implied. He didn't preface the statement with "It is a fact that..." but the point that when medicated state>non-medicated state (in the user's mind) is when problems arise is very true.

EDIT: I mean when non medicated state is insufficient to get you through the day. Obviously medicated state is better. But when medicated state is a necessity, then there's a problem. I think anyone can agree with that.

Jerry DB 12-25-2011 01:07 AM

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I got caught with a couple bags of weed and was thrown in jail for a month and given a felony and 3000 dollars in fines. Can't get a job now and most of my outer family hates me now if I even care about that part. I never did anything wrong I feel and I have plenty of friends who have stolen a bunch of stuff and done even worse things but they get off with nothing and continue being screw ups. Just wanna say I really hate the system because of my experience and practically everyone is lazy and horrible at doing a job who works at the jail and probation building. The C.O.s just treat you terribly from the start like your worthless and played computer games all day and got paid for it. The accountants are sometimes not even there and you have to wait just to pay them money for not being there to begin with. Sorry to rant but I could have easily had a job and a better future but they just want an easier buck...

DaisyC 12-25-2011 01:28 AM

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Psychoactive substances are a big part of our evolutionary biology, we shouldn't try to deny that so much Mexico dental implants

devonin 12-25-2011 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry DB (Post 3598291)
I got caught with a couple bags of weed and was thrown in jail for a month and given a felony and 3000 dollars in fines. Can't get a job now and most of my outer family hates me now if I even care about that part. I never did anything wrong I feel and I have plenty of friends who have stolen a bunch of stuff and done even worse things but they get off with nothing and continue being screw ups. Just wanna say I really hate the system because of my experience and practically everyone is lazy and horrible at doing a job who works at the jail and probation building. The C.O.s just treat you terribly from the start like your worthless and played computer games all day and got paid for it. The accountants are sometimes not even there and you have to wait just to pay them money for not being there to begin with. Sorry to rant but I could have easily had a job and a better future but they just want an easier buck...

Except you knowingly broke the law. I don't care whether other people also broke the law and weren't punished as badly. You knew it was against the law, did it anyway, and got caught. Sounds like the system is working just fine.

MagicCarpetRide 12-25-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by devonin (Post 3598534)
Except you knowingly broke the law. I don't care whether other people also broke the law and weren't punished as badly. You knew it was against the law, did it anyway, and got caught. Sounds like the system is working just fine.

I think the point is that more serious crimes are punished less severely. Therefore the system is broken.

Jerry DB 12-25-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by devonin (Post 3598534)
Except you knowingly broke the law. I don't care whether other people also broke the law and weren't punished as badly. You knew it was against the law, did it anyway, and got caught. Sounds like the system is working just fine.

well I guess I threw in a few irrelevant points I was just trying to talk about my experience with the people who work there. I've always been a hard worker when I work out or had a job and it just makes me a bit peeved when I see people making way more money then I ever did slacking off and treating people like crap with their noses held higher then everyone. I know it's not necessarily like that everywhere but everyone around here knows Washington county is definitely corrupt. I definitely didn't just idly walk through this without learning a lesson but I feel like the crappy month experience in jail and a few fines would do. Nobody knows how hard it is to have a felony until you get one.

Also I feel very strongly that it's illegal for very corrupt reasons because I never hurt anyone. Look at how we came to be, we were corrupt from the beginning, slavery, unnecessary wars and that's just touching the tip. I will be here waiting for a world that can be closer to perfection and I will be one of the few people who will fight for what is right. Everything the media tells us about marijuana is thrown so out of proportion it's kinda funny to me. Just sick of all these fake politicians and government employees.

devonin 12-25-2011 03:21 PM

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If you had "several" bags of pot, and were charged with a felony that puts you in "intent to distribute" territory.

Jerry DB 12-25-2011 04:24 PM

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yup got unlawful delivery of marijuana for consideration. It's cool if you don't agree with me practically nobody does. Even I wouldn't have completely agreed either until I went through with what I did. I'm sure I'll pull through I'm tired of everyone judging me It's just a super crappy situation for me ya know? Not only does everyone struggle with the down economy but I get a 2000 percent even less chance of getting a job cause every employer is like, oh wow what a hardened drug dealing dirt bag lets never give him an interview or a chance. Also can't move out anywhere or be on anyone's lease.

Merry Christmas BTW I feel like I'm getting a little off-put

MagicCarpetRide 12-25-2011 07:12 PM

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I feel for you man. It makes no sense that you can commit a victimless crime and become victimized and then people say "well you shouldn't have anything to do with marijuana because it's illegal." But they don't care to elaborate on why it is illegal. And Devo you live in Canada so it's pretty much not comparable.

devonin 12-26-2011 12:12 AM

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Smoking marijuana may be a mostly "victimless" crime. Dealing it has victims. Buying it can certainly have victims because you don't know what goes on before it is in your hand.

What does my being in canada have to do with seeing someone go "I was a criminal who got caught, and now people treat me like a criminal" and saying "Yup, there's a very good reason for that."

Jerry DB 12-26-2011 12:32 AM

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law enforcement is a lot more lenient towards Weed in Canada.

My opinion is I shouldn't be treated like a criminal for something I did in my private life that never hurt anybody. There's tons of drugs that are legal that kill people all the time. I think in this Democracy I live in people should be able to choose if I deserved this not make it an automatic felony because I picked up for a couple friends at the same time. Just seems like everyone's brainwashed.

ninjaKIWI 12-26-2011 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry DB (Post 3598977)
law enforcement is a lot more lenient towards Weed in Canada.

My opinion is I shouldn't be treated like a criminal for something I did in my private life that never hurt anybody. There's tons of drugs that are legal that kill people all the time. I think in this Democracy I live in people should be able to choose if I deserved this not make it an automatic felony because I picked up for a couple friends at the same time. Just seems like everyone's brainwashed.

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Originally Posted by devonin (Post 3598703)
If you had "several" bags of pot, and were charged with a felony that puts you in "intent to distribute" territory.

Oh.

iCeCuBEz v2 12-26-2011 01:34 AM

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ya obeying governmental policies completely about doing what's right under the law must be like blind justice (zektbach) or something like that

system works great

korny 12-26-2011 01:38 AM

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Not that you're asking for their sympathy JB, but I can honestly say moreso than any post i've ever encountered on this site, that I feel your pain. No matter what you do or say, people are going to close their minds towards the trials and tribulations you're going through, that i've gone through so miserably. Unfortunately, you can't expect people to know what you're going through, because they just have no idea how much it really sucks to be in that situation day in day out. Yes, we get it people, you chose to not partake and are therefore righteous and we deserve what we got. Give me a break.

Jerry DB 12-26-2011 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by korny (Post 3599014)
Not that you're asking for their sympathy JB, but I can honestly say moreso than any post i've ever encountered on this site, that I feel your pain. No matter what you do or say, people are going to close their minds towards the trials and tribulations you're going through, that i've gone through so miserably. Unfortunately, you can't expect people to know what you're going through, because they just have no idea how much it really sucks to be in that situation day in day out. Yes, we get it people, you chose to not partake and are therefore righteous and we deserve what we got. Give me a break.

Thanks :grin:

Also your in Texas, they must have dropped the book on you big time


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