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Kool_Kid351 06-14-2004 12:41 AM

ANTI WAR
 
Isnt every one tired of the god damn KILLING or HATRED, PAIN, LIVES BEING TAKEN! ISNT THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT CONSIDERS ANTI DAMN WAR! Its like calling 911 FOR DAMN PEACE! Who wants to Die? For theyre damn GOVERNMENT! Same for killing!

I dont Belive this. War Is fucked up. I dont care. Damn humans are making stronger weapons to kill more people. Just to die in the end. As one part of the bible says "Peace on earth is like heaven" I completely damn agree.

By the way, sorry about the swearing.

ayanepuck 06-14-2004 01:36 AM

Hmm....I believe it is "their" and not "theyre"...but I will not get into your grammatical errors and just go right ahead and state my opinion of this matter.

For the record, before I start, I would like to say I am all for peace. I wish with all my heart that war was not neccessary, but I understand that it is, and I am not going to waste my time whining about peace when there is nothing I personally can do about it. I am, however, going to waste my time explaining why war, in a sense, is a good and neccessary thing.
I was once like you, Kool Kid, I ranted and rattled my sabers....but in the end, what does that do? War is what gave you the right to rant and rave in the first place. The Revolution gave you America to begin with, otherwise we would all be under British rule....(which, I doubt would be THAT bad, but then, it was terrible) I would love to continue, but to be completely honest, I am shocked and quite angry at your comment, so I willl quickly wrap mine up, due to the fact that I would like to gather my thoughts and get them out in an oragnized fashion rather than get angry and yell and make hardly any sense like you demonstrated so beautifully. My apologies to everyone for cutting this short, but I suspect many of you would rather read a well-thought-out statement than useless rambling. I do admire your passion, Kool, but I seriously think you should evaluate the manner in which you convey your thoughts.

jewpinthethird 06-14-2004 02:11 AM

Troy had a lot of good anti-war quotes:

"War is young people dying and old people talking."

"What a day it will be when Kings fight their own battles."

Yeah, Peace is nice, but human-nature wont allow it.

GuidoHunter 06-14-2004 03:56 PM

Hey, sometimes you've gotta stand up for what you believe and fight. People's deaths are an unfortunate side-effect of that, but that's why nations have militaries. As for people who'd die/kill for their country, there are a whole lot more than you think.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

aleco 06-14-2004 04:03 PM

War can save lives. It is inevitable anyway. It's just another way to die....We all die anyway.

Cyborg_Mermaid 06-14-2004 05:41 PM

Agreed, aleco. War is inevitable, it doesn't happen in an obviously cyclic fashion but it will never cease to occur. I admire the people who are willing to fight for their beliefs and even more those who trust their superiors to send them into battle without question.

As for the weapons, I say that they are made to kill but they can be used to defend.

Jam930 06-14-2004 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jewpinthethird
Troy had a lot of good anti-war quotes:

"War is young people dying and old people talking."

"What a day it will be when Kings fight their own battles."

Yeah, Peace is nice, but human-nature wont allow it.


Actually it was


"Imagine a day when Kings fight their own battles"

But yeah. That was an awesome movie... oh right... the movie thread.



Duh we want peace. But sometimes things just don't work out.

Omeganitros 06-14-2004 11:32 PM

"Total Peace would kill us.

Total War would kill us.

That's why we have an angel and a devil on our shoulders everywhere we go." -My Thoughts

RenmazuoGK 06-14-2004 11:32 PM

Ayanepuck is right. Peace is nice and all, but war is necessary for pretty much anything really serious to happen. Negotiations won't always work. If people are oppressed, and they all get together, do you really think the tyrant will care? It will take something such as a large scale revolt to get his attention.

alvask8er 06-15-2004 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ayanepuck
The Revolution gave you America to begin with, otherwise we would all be under British rule....(which, I doubt would be THAT bad, but then, it was terrible)

What could have changed? America started it all....we beat England, so we werent a force to be wreckend with. If we didnt get our way, i dont think that the world would be as free as it is now, no one would have an example to follow.
You cant have complete peace, its just not possible. Its natural. Humans just take it up a notch. Everyday in the animal kingdom, wars are fought. A pack of wolves wants some of anothers territory, battle ensues, winner takes all. If a nation were to give up all of its military and war stuff, it would be overtaken for sure by someone. MAD keeps the peace now.(Mutual Assured Destruction, its a real term)

Jam930 06-15-2004 05:33 AM

Only way to have real peace would be to go back to the stone age.

We're all naked running around clubbing animals.

That's not exactly perfect peace, but it would be "peaceful" which is pretty close.

DracIV 06-15-2004 08:47 AM

Peaceful, Jam? That would be horrific! Disease would run rampant slaughtering people left and right, if you got a cut you probably would not survive, you'd have no time for yourself, and when you do your group is battling the other ones. Life doesn't become peaceful, it becomes an eternal war that only ends when you lose- and this time it is literal. Oh yeah, and humans never ran around naked or used clubs on animals. In fact, clubs were never ever used on animals, only humans and in later eras. I call that the worst situation possible. It isn't peace and never was.

IAMTHEEVILBEAN 06-15-2004 08:53 AM

Kill people.

ayanepuck 06-15-2004 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by IAMTHEEVILBEAN
Kill people.

And while we are at it....put babies on spikes like crazy Eddie!!!! "Cannibals say humans taste of chicken."

NeoDarkHeart 06-15-2004 08:32 PM

damn right! crazy eddie kicks ass.

we should all be druids, hauling stones, making henges.


but yes: war. um... got a better idea?

negotiations dont work. people require a serious possibility that they could die for them to listen and for some people it's the only way for them to stay true to their word.

IronMonk 06-16-2004 12:25 PM

i believe that we should throw away all weapons and have the world revert to using bare fists to settle things, that way every one gets a fair chance at things. not just which army has the biggest wallet.

"does might make right?"

who is to say that the side that won in a war deserved it?

NeoDarkHeart 06-16-2004 12:29 PM

yeah but you know that once one group threw out their weapons, the other would be like "well screw that, now we have them!"

and even if they did throw them out, they'd still be able to make new ones.

classof04 06-16-2004 01:25 PM

War is inevitable. It's in our nature to fight, so for there to be no war humans would have to change their nature which is almost to completly impossible. Another thing War is almost always connected to religion. Why did we come to american? Religion. Why did the crusades start? Religion. Why did 9/11 happen? Religion. In esseance to get rid of war we have to get rid of religion and our nature.

jewpinthethird 06-16-2004 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jam930
Only way to have real peace would be to go back to the stone age.

We're all naked running around clubbing animals.

That's not exactly perfect peace, but it would be "peaceful" which is pretty close.

Teehee...yeah Ice Age *wink wink*. I totally did not do that last week.

aleco 06-16-2004 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IronMonk
i believe that we should throw away all weapons and have the world revert to using bare fists to settle things, that way every one gets a fair chance at things. not just which army has the biggest wallet.

"does might make right?"

who is to say that the side that won in a war deserved it?

Do you say that because your army isn't the U.S.? That would really be the only reason


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