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xObserveRx 06-13-2004 11:09 PM

A topic that hits close to the average nerd's heart.
 
I came across this thread on another Forum i peruse, and it hit close to home, i decided to post it on here, and see what you guys and girls i guess, think about it. Here goes:

ORIGINAL POST:

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okay, to start, I'm not sure if I'm looking for advice, answers, or just a chance to get something off my chest but here it goes.

All my female friends, (and I have a lot) ever tell me is that I am such a sweet and wonderful person. They also complain that there are never any gentlemen left in the world and they can't wait for college, where they can find a mature person. Now I have my moments, but overall I'm a nice, caring sensitive, mature person that's straight. By all logical standpoints, I should have a girlfriend right? And I know logic has no point in matters of love, but still you get my point....

Take this one girl. She and I are perfect for each other. I mean litterally. We like the same things, we make each other laugh, we spend time nicely together, shit I've met her friggin' idol (my friends cousin has connections). She's really sweet and nice but has no interest in me what so ever. None. Zero. Zip. Period.

Am I missing something? Did I do anything wrong? What's the matter? Why does this always happen to me?
A RESPONSE THAT MANY CAN RELATE TO:

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welcome to last place buddy, with all us nice guys.

I know how you feel. Having Female friends who whine about their abusive boyfriends, and ask why couldn't they meet a nice guy. Oh but wait, when you say something, they use the horrible horrible F word.........FRIEND!

Or worse yet, you have a girlfriend, who seems like she likes you. You are good to her, treat her sweet and dont even mention the "S" word, so since i dont mention it, how can i even pressure it, or even do it.

Anyways she goes and cheats on me, and then dates this guy. Oh and then she calls me every weekend telling me how much her new boyfriend beats her and hurts her and tries to do things she does not want to do (::coughanalcough:). But she "loves" him and all this bull....that was about two years ago. so she finally stopped calling.

But yeah, us nice guys get the shaft....

One time i opened the door for this girl at school, just being nice, and she looks at me and laughs at me, then uses the other door....WTF!

Lets face it, chivalry is dead...........we all need to go back to being cavemen. Cause as much as they say they want a nice guy, seems to me they want the guy with the really big member, and the guy who beats their face into a steering wheel....So all us nice guys better start guzzling down beer, and wearing wife beaters, take up boxing...and start bashin lips! WHOA! SEXY!

but im still gonna try and work through the shite, and be the "nice" guy......it sucks....
So? What're your guy's thoughts on this topic? I know it seems like its really out to get women, and if it is, Women! Defend yourselves, it probably won't help much, but we'll consider it. <---- Joke. Relax ladies.

chaosjr17 06-13-2004 11:20 PM

Wow, thats pretty deep.

Chrissi 06-14-2004 12:00 AM

I think he's a whiner. Nice guys get the GOOD girls as long as they're not horridly ugly or something crazy. Stupid girls go for the morons and assholes. You don't want the stupid girls. It's that simple.

My boyfriend's a "nice guy". You know, the shy guy that never says anything mean... he got me, you decide if that's good or bad. And he's always had girls liking him (though he will deny it plenty).

My point is... people who complain like that are even less likely to get the NICE DECENT SMART UN-STUPID girls. Just don't complain. Just wait. Be calm. If you know you're a nice guy, you'll get a good girl eventually. If you're just saying you're a nice guy but you complain left and right, you don't deserve a good girl.

Arch0wl 06-14-2004 12:10 AM

If you've ever seen Hot Wet American Summer... the ending is a good example for this case.

Another reason could be that girls are so used to be treated as objects or mistreated towhere they're used to it, and they like being mistreated, or they feel like they should be. Another case could be that they don't feel like they deserve the guy... or that they're not ready for the guy. Which is stupid because those guys'll turn into dicks later on. Newsflash ladies, if you trash us we're not going to be the same sweet guys forever. We're going to turn into arrogant cocks who only care about fucking your brains out and blowing our loads all over your face. We're going to turn into assholes who end up getting drunk and cheating on you because you're just a nice piece of ass to us and we don't care about you as much as we would have in the past. We're going to turn into inconsiderate dicks who would rather smoke or watch television than care about what you have to say, or your wants or needs in general. The only thing that will matter to us anymore is ramming our cocks up either one of your womanholes, because that's all you are to us, a masturbation tool. Hell, those guys you're dating now that are being assholes to you and hitting you are the people we'll turn into later on. Because of people like you. Those guys just have lower tolerance for your shit than we do.

Of course, this example is hypothetical. But I'm sure you get my point.

I realize that nice guys can get good girls. It's not nonexistant, and those relationships often are great ones. However, those are rare. We're talking about the majority here.

xObserveRx 06-14-2004 12:16 AM

Amen to that Arch. lol

Chrissi 06-14-2004 12:24 AM

Arch, your post seriously scares me. I'd reccomend a psychologist...

jewpinthethird 06-14-2004 12:31 AM

I can somewhat relate to the posts observer posted. However, I get the "cute" response from girls. Everything I do is "sooooo cute", like I'm a freaking puppy. Also, a lot of people [guys and gals...and my mom (sometimes)] think I am a homosexual.

But, I am through with girls until College. I was looking for a relationship,but that didnt work out.
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If you've ever seen Hot Wet American Summer... the ending is a good example for this case.
Exactly.

I realize the drama isnt worth it. All I want now is sex anyways.

qualy 06-14-2004 12:33 AM

My sister has a bf who is a nice guy... and those two go well with each other... so I have some hope just because of that happening (i look up to my sister a lot... if she can find a nice guy im sure i can find a nice girl. ;p).

CyanoticXtC 06-14-2004 06:02 AM

Yea, that does hit close to home. I got that crap all the time, was cheated on at least 15 times, you get used to it sadly...

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I realize that nice guys can get good girls. It's not nonexistant, and those relationships often are great ones. However, those are rare.
Good to know what I have now is rare though =)
I believe most good guys will be happy where they end up, it just takes a lot of time and pain.

NeoDarkHeart 06-14-2004 07:40 AM

DAMN RIGHT.


but i got lucky as hell, though. i met my gf of 2 years now IN AN ONLINE GAME. how lucky is that? all that cuteness really works, in spades, over the internet. sounds kinda dorky to you guys, but lemme AXE ya this: who WOULDNT want to meet a cute asian girl over an online game and later create a meaningful relationship that would last a lifetime, and even later, screw her silly? i rest my case.

IronMonk 06-14-2004 07:44 AM

girls have a nasty habit of looking for jackasses to date. it boggles the mind the stories i hear. i used to have a nice girl and a great relationship too for a while, for a while i even thought i was in love. then one day she calls me and tells me its over. the next day she already has a new boyfriend. i bet you can guess what kind of guy he is.

people complain about life not being fair. thats exactly it, its not meant to be.

my advice. all you geeks out there. get some sun, do your hair. and try and meet girls. eventually you will find one that is right for you. dont count on meeting your perfect match on a dating service.

LEGO 06-14-2004 12:09 PM

I feel that if a girl is whining to you about her abusive boyfriend and you think she truly doesn't want to be in that relationship, then she's too stupid worth wanting, or being threatened to stay in the relationship.

Also, in response to the original post... I am not quite so popular in school, but whenever I hold open doors for girls they respond with a polite thank you. That guy must've been really super ugly or had done something in the past to prompt her response.

Any girl that sparks an "if" in your decision of whether you like/love her or not is already below what you should look for, or not what you truly are looking for.

NeoDarkHeart 06-14-2004 12:31 PM

yeah any girl stupid enough to go for an idiot isnt worth getting.

unless you're also an idiot and you wish you'd out-idioted (not a word) him so she'd be with you instead. in which case all three of you should take a long walk on a short boat in the middle of the pacific.

Jam930 06-14-2004 12:39 PM

We naturally want security.

"We will stand under your umbrella."

You need an umbrella.

xObserveRx 06-14-2004 12:42 PM

um.... huh?

Arch0wl 06-14-2004 12:57 PM

She's saying girls are attracted to strong guys who seem to be able to protect her. This is understandable, but a lot of times guys get buff because they want to score more, not because they want to protect someone.

Girls are too trusting when they're physically attracted to someone. However, guys are a lot worse than girls when they don't give a shit about you. People think girls are... this isn't true. Guys will give just as much, if not more emotional abuse towards you as girls do to guys. And they'll hit you when you try to speak up, too.

themanwithsauce 06-14-2004 01:23 PM

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She's saying girls are attracted to strong guys who seem to be able to protect her. This is understandable, but a lot of times guys get buff because they want to score more, not because they want to protect someone
That's very true, also on the subject of abusive boyfriends- though a giant muscleman may be able to protect you better he can also hit you that much harder.

Good guys will always get the royal screw job no matter where we go or what we do to try and please others, why? There's too many women who aren't at the same ntelligent level as the good guy. I like dating smarter women that the dumb blonde ones. I feel much more attracted to the smart ones even if all the dumbfuck abusive boyfriends think that some blonde is hotter. And the smart ones are also more likely to pick the non-abusive good guy. Well at least the smart guy. Some of the smart pnes are also getting abusive....damn... there's no way to prove that im a good guy anymore.

xObserveRx 06-14-2004 01:49 PM

lol, yeah, and your sig helps too.... ;)

Arch, i think you do have it right, but I think at least guys are straight forward about it. In my experiences, if you're getting the shaft by your girlfriend (and i meant getting walked all over and what not, you pervs), then its most likely a hidden thing. Girls like to get the runaround effect going on, and that's a major pet peeve.

alvask8er 06-14-2004 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Arch0wl
And they'll hit you when you try to speak up, too.

That right there is a big problem. I dont reacall reading any responses about how hitting girls is wrong, which makes me sick.
I always hear the "oh you're so sweet/nice," doesnt really get me anywhere, but i guess im well-liked. Im on my schools chess team, i got 100th out of 112 on board 3 at state, but i got the MVP this year since i improved so much since last year(didnt go to state last year:P) I play videogames a lot, and i used to play Magic, but i realized how much that stuff is cardboard crack....and im just a nerdish fellow. But being in highshcool , relationships arent really worth it. About one of ten relationships last through highschool, and then one of 50 of those work out later, only to get a divorce. I found it useless to worry about girls anymore in highschool. You should just enjoy your youth anyway you can, be it relationship or just hanging out. I like girls, many have brains and are great eye candy (ie Jam:P)...back on topic, like some others said, just wait a while, good things come to those who wait right? Kinda. But one shouldnt get upset too much in adolessence, but if this continues to adulthood, um...maybe love isnt for you? Dont know.

Chrissi 06-14-2004 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoDarkHeart
DAMN RIGHT.


but i got lucky as hell, though. i met my gf of 2 years now IN AN ONLINE GAME. how lucky is that? all that cuteness really works, in spades, over the internet. sounds kinda dorky to you guys, but lemme AXE ya this: who WOULDNT want to meet a cute asian girl over an online game and later create a meaningful relationship that would last a lifetime, and even later, screw her silly? i rest my case.

You sound like one of the assholes. Sorry. I'm not saying you are an asshole. Just it seems that you are primarily focused on sex. You aren't what this thread is talking about. Most of you don't seem like what this thread is talking about. Nice guys. Not guys who think they don't get enough sex, geez...


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