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Cold Kitten 05-24-2009 12:34 AM

Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
Have any of you ever noticed that it seems like a lot of our world tends to revolve around looks and/or how much they weigh? If so, you should read this:

http://41010.deviantart.com/art/I-m-Too-Fat-106416404

I personally think that everything in our world that people see, is revolving too much around looks. Example: Next time a commercial is on, take a look and see what the people in the commercial look like. If it's a commercial that is supposed to be funny, well, that's a different story. However, say it's a commercial for a new drink. I've noticed that the people in the commercial tend to be what most people consider "hot" or some other form of good-looking. Yes, they make the soda sell better, but why is that? This comes back to my original statement. Everything revolves too much around looks. People would rather buy something that has been advertised by a better looking person then, say, an average looking person.

It's the same thing with clothing and what-not. You've seen ads in magazines for clothing and accessories. What do the people who are modeling the clothing normally look like? Once again, good-looking, usually pretty slim people. I would like to hear all of your opinions on this.

TK_goelo 05-24-2009 12:52 AM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
You're obviously fat

On Topic: I totally agree with this, thay alwas put ¨hot¨ people in the ads and stuff, but when its trying to ridiculize something they put ¨fat¨people for us to laugh.
Society is sh*t.

Coolboyrulez0 05-24-2009 12:57 AM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
Sex sells, ladies and gentlemen.

That is just how the world works.

And yes, I hate very attractive girls that say "Oh I am fat, look at me, I am so hideous."
I don't know why they do it, attention, or other reasons but it's highly annoying.

Cold Kitten 05-24-2009 01:14 AM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coolboyrulez0 (Post 3083346)
Sex sells, ladies and gentlemen.

That is just how the world works.

And yes, I hate very attractive girls that say "Oh I am fat, look at me, I am so hideous."
I don't know why they do it, attention, or other reasons but it's highly annoying.

We already knew that's how the world worked. You might hate very attractive girls saying for attention, but would you hate if someone you personally thought was fat/hideous, just for attention? No, you probably wouldn't, because you, also, care about looks more then anything. I am not judging you, but that's what it seems like from your post.

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Originally Posted by TK_goelo (Post 3083345)
You're obviously fat

On Topic: I totally agree with this, thay alwas put ¨hot¨ people in the ads and stuff, but when its trying to ridiculize something they put ¨fat¨people for us to laugh.
Society is sh*t.

Thank you for judging me on something you know nothing about.

On topic: Exactly, the "hot" people end up making millions because they're good-looking. Wonderful. The "fat" people make millions because they let the world laugh at them. Even better.

[TeRa] 05-24-2009 01:31 AM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
There's nothing to this thread other than sex sells, which you say you already knew, so I don't see what you're asking for us to give opinions on.

We're naturally attracted to good looking people, it's human nature, so they, the media, use it to their advantage. The main point of using an attractive individual to advertise is to draw attention to the product, after they have your attention, then there's the advertisement.

Cold Kitten 05-24-2009 01:38 AM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
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Originally Posted by [TeRa] (Post 3083390)
There's nothing to this thread other than sex sells, which you say you already knew, so I don't see what you're asking for us to give opinions on.

We're naturally attracted to good looking people, it's human nature, so they, the media, use it to their advantage. The main point of using an attractive individual to advertise is to draw attention to the product, after they have your attention, then there's the advertisement.

Yes, I did already know the sex sells. That is not what I was asking for an opinion on. I was asking if you thought that the world cared too much about looks and what-not.
The media does use it, yes. But they tend to use it throughout the whole advertisement, which is distracting to the actual product. I'm not saying it's wrong to use good looking people for that reason, just that the media uses them too much throughout one advertisement.

Coolboyrulez0 05-24-2009 01:45 AM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
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Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 3083360)
We already knew that's how the world worked. You might hate very attractive girls saying for attention, but would you hate if someone you personally thought was fat/hideous, just for attention? No, you probably wouldn't, because you, also, care about looks more then anything. I am not judging you, but that's what it seems like from your post.



Thank you for judging me on something you know nothing about.

On topic: Exactly, the "hot" people end up making millions because they're good-looking. Wonderful. The "fat" people make millions because they let the world laugh at them. Even better.

I believe every human being cares about what he/she looks like and what other people look like, it's just how we are wired.

I would say it's odd to find a person who does not care.

Cold Kitten 05-24-2009 01:49 AM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
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Originally Posted by Coolboyrulez0 (Post 3083406)
I believe every human being cares about what he/she looks like and what other people look like, it's just how we are wired.

I would say it's odd to find a person who does not care.

Yes, everyone cares about what they look like. Does that mean we should post pictures of ourselves and say, "Oh, I'm so fat and ugly"? No. It doesn't.

I never said you wouldn't find someone who didn't care. I said, it seemed like you were the type of person who ONLY cared about looks. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I'm just stating what I thought.

devonin 05-24-2009 10:39 AM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
Everybody has insecurities, and some people are just a little less in need of reassurance than others. That marketing has developed in such a way to offer products that claim to reassure you about your looks and body and self-worth should be a surprise to nobody.

kommisar[os] 05-24-2009 12:49 PM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
unless you have an illness, being fat is a choice and is seen by society as something unpleasant. of course commercials are going to put people who are more appealing to the public rather than showcasing the average consumer of their product.

Mech Dragon 05-24-2009 01:03 PM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
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Originally Posted by Coolboyrulez0 (Post 3083346)
Sex sells

Quote:

Originally Posted by [TeRa] (Post 3083390)
We're naturally attracted to good looking people, it's human nature

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonin (Post 3083598)
Everybody has insecurities, and some people are just a little less in need of reassurance than others.

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Originally Posted by kommisar[os] (Post 3083771)
unless you have an illness, being fat is a choice and is seen by society as something unpleasant.

Nothing more need be said. It's simple, don't make it complicated, seriously

Cold Kitten 05-24-2009 01:05 PM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
None of you are seeing the point I am trying to make, or the question I'm asking.

fido123 05-24-2009 01:05 PM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
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Originally Posted by kommisar[os] (Post 3083771)
unless you have an illness, being fat is a choice and is seen by society as something unpleasant. of course commercials are going to put people who are more appealing to the public rather than showcasing the average consumer of their product.

A lot of it is body type. I used to be 210lbs but then I started eating right and exercising religiously. I still do that to this day but I can never drop below 175 and I still look a little pudgy.

Mech Dragon 05-24-2009 01:09 PM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
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Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 3083794)
None of you are seeing the point I am trying to make, or the question I'm asking.

Then make your point, the only point/question I see is why is society using so much looks, and the posts already answered that

Cold Kitten 05-24-2009 01:11 PM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
The actual point I was trying to make was that I thought that the world revolved too much around looks. If you disagree with that, then say so. But don't post something that we already knew. And as for the question I was asking, do you agree with that?

Mech Dragon 05-24-2009 01:16 PM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 3083805)
The actual point I was trying to make was that I thought that the world revolved too much around looks. If you disagree with that, then say so. But don't post something that we already knew. And as for the question I was asking, do you agree with that?

Ohhh, I apologize. Actually, yes, I do think the world is too revolved with looks.... as a matter of fact, humans themselves are too revolved around looks. For example, most people if you ask them what they look for in a relationship, more than half would say looks first. There sooooo many aspects you have to look at before you get into a relationship, looks are a plus, but there are many more important aspects you have to look at first before you get into a relationship.

Cold Kitten 05-24-2009 01:31 PM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mech Dragon (Post 3083815)
Ohhh, I apologize. Actually, yes, I do think the world is too revolved with looks.... as a matter of fact, humans themselves are too revolved around looks. For example, most people if you ask them what they look for in a relationship, more than half would say looks first. There sooooo many aspects you have to look at before you get into a relationship, looks are a plus, but there are many more important aspects you have to look at first before you get into a relationship.

Exactly. Thank you. You have made a post pertaining to the actual thread. Congrats.

dballin4 05-24-2009 04:06 PM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
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Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 3083794)
None of you are seeing the point I am trying to make, or the question I'm asking.

Oh... I'm sorry but the 90% of your post dealing with looks in advertising and lack of a clear cut question led me to believe you wanted opinions on looks in advertising. My bad.

Quote:

don't post something that we already knew
Then why did you post this thread? Look at how the beauty industry flourishes and then ask anyone if they think people are obsessed with how they look. There are always ads for a new cream to make you look younger or makeup for young people to look glamorous. The common definition of "attractive" is set by society and since that definition is what it is, you can offer up the opinion that society is currently (the definition of beauty is different depending on where in the world you are and has changed over time) obsessed with skinny people and that is how you should strive to look if you want to be beautiful. Does everyone think this way? No, but you asked if the world revolved around looks. While I don't think it REVOLVES around looks, it's pretty damn conclusive that you wouldn't be doing harm to yourself by fitting into the societal version of beauty.

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Originally Posted by http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=512621
Mobius’s study, published in The American Economic Review last month, builds on data that shows that workers labeled physically attractive earn about 10 to 15 percent more than their plainer peers.

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Originally Posted by Mech Dragon
For example, most people if you ask them what they look for in a relationship, more than half would say looks first.

Time to be a devo: Where are you pulling these numbers from? Sure, people in high school who might just be looking to get off probably want to do so with someone they find attractive, but as you get older certain things become more important than beauty. Things such as money management, will they be a good parent, do they have a job, are they at least a little bit intelligent, do we even get along, etc? Looks don't matter nearly as much when you're considering living with someone and having kids together.

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Originally Posted by NFD
I'm damn sexy.

Right on brother!

devonin 05-24-2009 04:35 PM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 3083805)
The actual point I was trying to make was that I thought that the world revolved too much around looks. If you disagree with that, then say so. But don't post something that we already knew. And as for the question I was asking, do you agree with that?

You've said "Everyone is too concerned with their looks, here is a basic marketing issue that we're all aware of that shows we're too concerned with our looks, now...do you think we're too concerned with our looks?"

As a question, the response is "yes" with no real room for any further debate. I understand your potential frustration that the discussion deviated slightly from people saying "Yes, you're right" into a very related side issue, but that's also something that happens in this forum, discussions develop and evolve.

If all you wanted was a yes/no response to "Do you think we're too concerned with looks" you could have made a poll.

Mech Dragon 05-24-2009 04:37 PM

Re: Too fat or attention-seeking?
 
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Originally Posted by devonin;3084032Y
you could have made a poll.

And you could have asked people to post why they said yes/no etc.


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