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Red Blaster 02-29-2016 11:57 AM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 4412450)
Wait what.

If it's been done here then why are you all so confused?

Poor timing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4412451)
I don't get what you mean by "again" here's all my actions for simplicity.

N0 - I free saved XelNya (I random.org that one)
N1 - I saved Vendetta (It felt obvious he was going to be targeted imo.)
N2 - I called I was going to used my 1 shot vigi on DBP, used it, and got roleblocked.

This makes me conclude that YoshL may actually have been a Mafia even if I never had any proof about him.

Day 3 - DBP self-cleared himself from everything I had against him. He's 80%+ Town for me now and no longer a target until the end of the game.

I also think rzr/j-rodd123 is like 70% Town, besides the sketchy claim Day 3 + replacing out, I think he was fairly genuine overall.

So, I only got roleblocked N2 and I'm out of actions so, you're unlikely to see me get roleblocked again.

My lynch order would be like:

Fontisian -> AA -> storn42/Xiz.

Everyone else is town.

I think storn42/Xiz are about on the same level in terms of alignment read. I think they're both low-profile Towns. I'd like it if they hard claimed/said things that would make them look very alignment indicative, but it doesn't feel necessary for today.

No.
Were you blocked last night as well or not?

Hakulyte 02-29-2016 11:59 AM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I didn't get roleblocked.

Red Blaster 02-29-2016 12:01 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4412453)
I didn't get roleblocked.

Ok. The reason I asked was to see if maybe they were still unsure about if you actually used your powers.

Hakulyte 02-29-2016 12:02 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I thought we were still Day 3 because I was doing a night action every nights and this night I didn't do anything.

Derp.

fontisian 02-29-2016 12:03 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Haku, I am V. I am the fucking slot you saved n1 when there was no mafia kill.

This so frustrating, oh my god.

Hakulyte 02-29-2016 12:07 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Okay.

fontisian - SK
AA - Mafia

Thanks for clarifying.

AragakiAyase 02-29-2016 12:08 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 4412420)
I am still a she.

I apologize if you're town and the claim tilted you. I think your reaction was more town than not, but I don't think I'm confident enough to go with that read until the end of the game :/

my bad I just defaulted, I'll try to remember

I am town and the claim threw me off especially since it seemed like people were going along with it. I need to do more analysis as well still

fontisian 02-29-2016 12:12 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase (Post 4412459)
my bad I just defaulted, I'll try to remember

I am town and the claim threw me off especially since it seemed like people were going along with it. I need to do more analysis as well still

Let's say you're town for a moment. Mafia would have known the claim was fake and would have been trying to figure out what I was doing, yeah? And anyone who actually believed it can't be mafia. With that in mind, what do you think of the way each person reacted?

Red Blaster 02-29-2016 12:20 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 4412460)
Let's say you're town for a moment. Mafia would have known the claim was fake and would have been trying to figure out what I was doing, yeah? And anyone who actually believed it can't be mafia. With that in mind, what do you think of the way each person reacted?

This is kinda flawed reasoning.

Hakulyte 02-29-2016 12:24 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase (Post 4412459)
I am town

You should have said that sooner wtf..

Never lynch AA guys.

Hakulyte 02-29-2016 12:31 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Sorry for having too much fun as a Medic Village Idiot.

btw..

@ fontisian: Find the Mafia, make him get more agro than you and you'll live tonight.

Hakulyte 02-29-2016 12:36 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4412462)
You should have said that sooner wtf..

Never lynch AA guys.

That's a joke btw. I'm trying to learn fontisian humor.

Hakulyte 02-29-2016 12:38 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
She's definitely more funny than me tho. I'll probably just afk, I feel like I'm taking space that shouldn't be taken by me.

fontisian 02-29-2016 12:42 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Blaster (Post 4412461)
This is kinda flawed reasoning.

Why is it flawed?

Haku: I already pointed out that dbp, storn and AA likely contain the mafia and SK. I think you are town, Blaster is confirmed, and Xiz and rzr are very likely town with their conviction. I believe that dbp is the most likely mafia of the three for several reasons:
1. He claimed to think I was mafia and AA was SK during the claim in part because I was not voting on AA. If I were actually mafia in this scenario, I would always be voting AA, as a quick lynch gives me the win.
2. He did not try to actually figure out the claim by looking over V's posts, as Xiz did, yet acted very excited when Xiz posted information pointing to the claim being real. If he was so excited, why was he not doing research himself? I suspect it was because he knew I was fake and didn't think he'd find anything.
3. When I rescinded, he echoed Xiz's confusion, but it rang hollow. I think this constitutes a pattern of him trying to immitate likely town players in order to look town, a common mafia tactic.

fontisian 02-29-2016 12:43 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4412464)
That's a joke btw. I'm trying to learn fontisian humor.

I laughed.

Hakulyte 02-29-2016 12:45 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 4412467)
Why is it flawed?

Haku: I already pointed out that dbp, storn and AA likely contain the mafia and SK. I think you are town, Blaster is confirmed, and Xiz and rzr are very likely town with their conviction. I believe that dbp is the most likely mafia of the three for several reasons:
1. He claimed to think I was mafia and AA was SK during the claim in part because I was not voting on AA. If I were actually mafia in this scenario, I would always be voting AA, as a quick lynch gives me the win.
2. He did not try to actually figure out the claim by looking over V's posts, as Xiz did, yet acted very excited when Xiz posted information pointing to the claim being real. If he was so excited, why was he not doing research himself? I suspect it was because he knew I was fake and didn't think he'd find anything.
3. When I rescinded, he echoed Xiz's confusion, but it rang hollow. I think this constitutes a pattern of him trying to immitate likely town players in order to look town, a common mafia tactic.

I've read everything, but I stopped caring at bold part. Sorry.

Hakulyte 02-29-2016 12:47 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Also, I think storn, AA and Xiz (not DBP), highly contains the mafia or the SK.

Hakulyte 02-29-2016 12:48 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Actually, nvm that call, it doesn't even feel right.

fontisian 02-29-2016 12:55 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Xiz is trying to solve the game. The others are not.

Red Blaster 02-29-2016 12:58 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 4412467)
Why is it flawed?

The mafia would've known it was fabricated from the start, so any reaction fishing from that point kinda becomes moot given they would react accordingly with the knowledge that you were full of it. So you saying "And anyone who actually believed it can't be mafia" means next to nothing when the only person who expressed general disbelief of it was the person you were faking the check on.

Backpack's reaction for example was a mixture of belief and skepticism:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4412193)
all of your checks, now

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4412204)
I have thoughts about the cop thing, but I want to watch and see what happens

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4412221)
if this is true, this is spectacular

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4412244)
if I totally agreed with you I'd be voting AA right now

I have some reservations

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4412253)
I want to watch AA struggle before giving him something he might latch onto

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4412262)
yes, and this is a major reservation of mine

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4412271)
Strictly speaking, it's possible if V was a wolf and left something in the wolfchat

Is that likely? that's whta I'm trying to figure out

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4412272)
That alone isn't enough to doubt you obviously



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