Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750155)

Oh you can't use Kristoph as a 2nd KP ?

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4750156)

this is why Haku is 100% town lol

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750157)

Damn, you're smarter than me, you're probably have more info than me.

rip

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4750158)

No, no you cannot.

It's more like a Ninja/Strongman combo but only once




Haku dumbtell = Town?

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750161)

I mean cmon here.

You send a normal night kill as wolf #1 and you use kristoph unblockable kill as an ability to also get an unstoppable vigi shot.

You get 2 KPs gg.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750162)

I literally had 2 checks last game as 1 player in 1 night so, having 2 KPs as 2 players felt completely normal to me.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750167)

Sorry, I just felt like you could inform me of how that works.

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4750168)

Hmm... Think of it as a special ability that gets sent in as a wolf kill

Basically like a one shot ability

Does that help?

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750169)

If wolves can send a night kill + roleblock then why not a night kill + this ?

Why it doesn't count ?

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749303)

how the fuck did you find someone willing to put up with you
is she inflatable?
are you just pretending this message is from her?
does she know you're, and I do not use this term endearingly, anime trash?

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750173)

Most of the reason is likely town.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750171)

I'd say 99% of the time, the real scenario is Ulli got shot by town to clear wagons.

It's just that Kristoph should have been a possibility and apparently it's not.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750173)

I don't like the refusal of both FG and T-Force from evaluating each other all game.

Sunfan is slightly more sus than Plop for ghosting the EoD that didn't happen last phase.

Most of the reason is likely town.

Low chance as a mastermind Freezin.

DBP looking better for me since this phase started, but I feel like the kills has been orchestrated to make him look bad.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749311)

I wanted a relationship once, but I realized I already like myself.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750173)

I don't like the refusal of both FG and T-Force from evaluating each other all game.

Sunfan is slightly more sus than Plop for ghosting the EoD that didn't happen last phase.

Most of the reason is likely town.

Low chance as a mastermind Freezin.

DBP looking better for me since this phase started, but I feel like the kills has been orchestrated to make him look bad.

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4750179)

Sorry ffa...sorry FG...I should've BELIEVE'd......

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4750175)

Kristoph's ability just turns the wolf nightkill into one that is unblockable and untraceable. It doesn't give you a second nightkill.

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4750176)

I'm reading the thread now, sunfan did mention very early on that he would have trouble with some early EoDs

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4750180)

you still have time to BELIEVE

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750124)

I wasn't voting FFA/Ulli.

FG/T-Force were definitely votable for being memes until the end.

Seeing FG moving away from T-Force was eww.

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4750175)

Kristoph's ability just turns the wolf nightkill into one that is unblockable and untraceable. It doesn't give you a second nightkill.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750145)

I'm assuming A) Kristoph exist or B) someone shot between Ulli/Xiz

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4750183)

Agreed. That looked like some major pres by funnygurl.
If that goes the other way, wolf-FG keeps someone who she thinks she can manipulate to keep a townread on her.

Town-FG is just like... yikes.



PS. Yes I chortled at seeing FFA flip as Moe. That was satisfying.

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4749414)

We have two options here.
1.) Lynch Funnygurl to learn my alignment.
2.) Lynch T-Force to learn FG's alignment.

And option 3.) Policy lynch FFA.

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4750160)

It's possible for someone to fake a dumbtell, but Haku's is so specific and weird that I find it hard to imagine it being manufactured

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750173)

I don't like the refusal of both FG and T-Force from evaluating each other all game.

Sunfan is slightly more sus than Plop for ghosting the EoD that didn't happen last phase.

Most of the reason is likely town.

Low chance as a mastermind Freezin.

DBP looking better for me since this phase started, but I feel like the kills has been orchestrated to make him look bad.

Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4750188)

i don't think i ever give people 100% passes for dumbtells. I actually think it's NAI for haku, because there's scenarios that i can imagine where both can happen.

also because haku, why did you vote t-force with me?

Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4750188)

i don't think i ever give people 100% passes for dumbtells. I actually think it's NAI for haku, because there's scenarios that i can imagine where both can happen.

also because haku, why did you vote t-force with me?

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4749479)

What if Tforce and Funny got the dream team and are wolves together

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4750190)

One more thing re: my read on Raeko.
Raeko is hella town for her reaction to the FFA vote.
Knowing how much she despises FFA, it would be really easy for wolf Raeko to just hop on that wagon under that premise and really not be suspected for it, but she was willing to keep him around for a more wolfy read in her mind. It shocked me, but in the best of ways.

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4750186)

Preserving as in... Preserving a scapegoat for later in the game?

Just want to make sure I'm reading what you're saying here correctly

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4750195)

One key aspect about TWG that I feel doesn't get enough cred is the relationships people have with players outside of the game.
It's easier for us to believe in and feel the tone behind players that we know better. When we can read the posts in their voice and know their tones within it.


Moreso in point with the above part of this post, I think that, if FG is a wolf, she wants a friend around that she thinks she can easily sway into believing her to be town.
Especially if he flips town later, that could look good for her down the line based on his reads at the time.
Obviously this is an assumption, but I do think FG's wanting to save FFA is based on her relationship with FFA.

And, on the flipside, it again ties in with my read on Raeko.

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4750191)

Eh I still think it leans Haku as town, at the end of the day the misinterpretation feels like a sincere one

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750192)

I have this big problem of T-Force and FG not evaluating each other seriously since the beginning of the game and I was more than happy to stay on one of the two.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750196)

I can see FG/Plop being together here unironically.

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4750197)

Interesting take here.

I never really considered using relationships between other people in the roster as kind of a way of seeing into the game.

That's not really angleshooting, is it? Feels more like an opinion? I think?

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4750201)

Iirc, angleshooting involves in-game mechanics. So, yeah, it falls under opinion.

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4750202)

current detective music:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4750200)

it's funny you mention this because I also considered this last night while I was thinking about the game and I was like "Wait a minute, why the fuck would she vote Plop?"

Thoughts on that so I don't feel like I'm insane would be great

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749548)

reading last few pages im suspicious of sunfan, i feel like he gets super ambivalent about lynching people only when he rolls wolf.

i dont feel like digging up the really old games and combing thru them, its more of a gut read

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4750202)

current detective music:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750205)

Do you mean like a safety vote because she would know Plop doesn't case if they're together ?

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749553)

Hmm, I see your point. While I still think a wolf would be too self-conscious to make a post like that, I'll keep an eye out to see if her analysis eventually gets applied/incorporated into her reads.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750209)

Hey Plop, FG voted you for a moment. What do you think is going on ?

Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4750198)

i also don't like haku's wallpost and end of phase at all from last night. it sits pretty badly with me, but i'm probably going to need to just look at some other things for the time being.

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749571)

I think... it worries me because she's making an attempt to say "hey I'm present, look at this" but this says things that are basically common sense and don't really need to be explained.

That's the best way that I can word this

Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4749575)

I can't actually tell if shadow is speaking for real and mindmelding, or read my post, and tried to fake-generate a mindmeld, because that's some pretty similar wording lmao

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749582)

Yeah that's a legit mindmeld. Ulli's post reminded me of how Devonin burned me by using pure mechanics in "solving" the game and was wolfing, so that's where my read into it came from

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4750211)

She didn't want to vote Ule, and she REALLY didn't want to vote FFA, and since I was the one who brought up and kept the seats warm on the FFA train, she voted me.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750217)

Do you think FG is a Prosecutor ?

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750218)

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750223)

They haven't said anything that would make me think the opposite.

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4749587)

gotcha



my thought process was something like

- I like most the people talking, specifically haku, shadow, kinda fatfuck, kinda freezin
- Only real talk is funny/force. Meme'd a bit on it but I kinda buy into the tforce mood thing
- I liked sunfan/yoshl interaction about it, more yoshl with the "not mindmeld" line because I've almost never seen a wolf say stuff like that to a town nor wolf.
- I didn't care about Force/Funny enough to take it serously
- No strong wolf leads, more often then not in past 20 twg games they are usually inactives
- dbp/ul/funny/force/mellon/ffa then i'll consider
- i removed funny/foce for a bit to get new info then realized they were both at the bottom, hence my lolz
- Mellon felt good, removed her. Said why in prev post
- FFA felt just there, but nothing stuck out. An option, but 3rd compared to DBP/Ult because miss-reading FFA is a thing
- DBP has a habit for being afk so I put him on standby until he came back after tutoring. I would have hopped on a dbp wagon.
- Funny/Force are just not w/w. I will fight anyone who disagrees. That is like, the only thing i'm confident of in this game so far. Between them, I don't hold the accusation by Yoshl/Sunfan with any weight, so its a coinflip on who to kill there if it came down to them. But I think t/t is more real then t/w at this current point.
- Ul is left from that. I didn't like sunfan's defence, so I thought about why UL more. And if we were actually ending that phase I rather see Ul dead over anyone else (with respect to DBP info, and like i guess FFA if there was anything he said weird)



tl;dr POE on UL from how everyone else acted so far
(this is fully unfiltered Xiz thoughts, like em or not)

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749589)

I'm a bit lost right now, I think I'll take a short break here and come back later on

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4750224)

This is one of those answers that's like "Yeah no shit Sherlock"

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749598)

ffa how did my sunfan read rub u the wrong way

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749599)

cause personally i think it was pretty good. it would probably be better if i had taken the time to find examples to back up my feelings but eh. i feel like anyone who's played multiple games with sunfan gets what im talking about

he definitely does a thing where he states that he doesnt care if X dies or not

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749606)

I think... I'm okay with YoshL with the way he's been posting

Freezin' is okay from what I've seen up to now

Haku is doing Haku, which is a good

I'd like to hear more from Raeko

Sunfan scares me because I feel like he's capable of posting the way he is as both alignments

Xiz is ???? I never know what he's thinking

FFA is being lazy and wanting to ride the coattails of Haku, myself, and Freezin' through Day 0?

Ulli dropped that... thingo with the no shit Sherlock mechanics. I'm hoping she'll step it up eventually, but if she starts trending downwards then I wouldn't be sad if she got axed.

I'm not sure how I feel about the rest of you

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4749623)

hot take: FFA is a wolf

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4750233)

this guy is pretty sus

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749646)

nah, this is where I put a stop to this

lynching Ull, or basically anyone else gives NO information today

last game, I was mislynched d1 over wayward, because people figured that killing Wayward would give less info. Wayward was a wolf with like 5 posts on the phase, if that.

All of the information that was generated from my kill amounted to cedo quoting my (honestly rather accurate) reads one time in a future phase, and no one talking about them after that.

If you think Ull is a wolf (which it sounds like you do), then go ahead and vote for them. Don't do it because you value some amount of information that you and I both know will have no one give a shit about it in the future phases.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750232)

man, don't make me start thinking at worlds like Shadow God/Yoshl/Plop.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750236)

Also, I hope you'll be fine with posting in general for the future phases. That first phase was kinda ouch for you.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750236)

Also, I hope you'll be fine with posting in general for the future phases. That first phase was kinda ouch for you.