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inDheart 08-23-2018 11:02 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4644120)
Are people... townreading Xiz? 'Cause I'm not.

Is this OMGUS? Maybe, for what he said at EOD. But I don't know if Xiz actually believes his reads. They don't seem firm, and it doesn't look like he's trying to nail anyone. It looks like he knows the direction that town is going ahead of time as well. He's saying some textbook wolf things like "I don't like the direction that town is going in," and "I don't have any wolf reads." I see possible associations with Xiz and Cel and Xiz and Ind. He brings them both up quite a bit; however, Ind is still null and Cel has been lightly pressured at most. Also, I wonder why he read Freezin as town. That's just me not having an opinion of him yet.





I thought that this was a pretty cool thing to latch onto.



The blind part seems like an easy thing to say. Slightly scummy IMO. Ind part, NAI.



dat read reversal... I guess this is something that Xiz does? But ehhhhhh.



^ on precarious's reads. yet, i haven't seen Xiz do anything about Precarious. Seems scummy.



I hate it when people say "Ohhh i have so many town but few wolves" right because it's so easy for a wolf to do that. It's harder to fabricate wolf reads. I dunno.



This I thought it was okay. I don't really understand what about DBP's reaction made him such a townie town, but whatever.



nai



I also don't like the bolded part... as if he knows... we're.. yeah.



For some reason I don't... like this. It feels like inauthentic paranoia.



A wolf would know that both me and w_c are town. This might be a good way to knock another townie out this phase.

what's the point of leaving quoted posts in that come out as nai

several more people than just xiz have said "i don't have any wolf reads", but i know you've used this read when you're town, at least

also he literally does something about prec by asking about a couple of the reads?

his paranoia thing, he had a stronger reaction than just that post bc that's the whole thing where he goes through us being potential partners

blindreper1179 08-23-2018 11:02 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4645330)
oh come on

I'll come on you.

Precarious 08-23-2018 11:07 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4645239)
if you're really, REALLY scared about that and enough other people are we can lynch Freezin

Just going to make the point that this is another point in favor of their truthfulness; Vengeful would be a gutsy fakeclaim because, absent everything else, the role only realizes its power by being lynched. Hence such a lynch is always theoretically on the table.

Xiz 08-23-2018 11:09 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4645333)
I'll come on you.

im upset but this made me laugh thanks

inDheart 08-23-2018 11:11 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
sunfan, is it in the chaos meta for xiz to vote backpack d1 when he has ample mislynches available with those wagons, and hold fast on it when backpack wtfs at him?

and do you think that would give him a PR vibe on dbp too

the sun fan 08-23-2018 11:11 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
sorry im here now

the sun fan 08-23-2018 11:13 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4645343)
sunfan, is it in the chaos meta for xiz to vote backpack d1 when he has ample mislynches available with those wagons, and hold fast on it when backpack wtfs at him?

and do you think that would give him a PR vibe on dbp too

I cannot answer the second and when asking whether or not something is in the chaos meta, the answer is usually yes.

Xiz showed during the manti lynch last game (just realized you weren't there so just laugh and nod on this point) that he doesn't really give a fuck when he's pushing lynches through as a wolf

Xiz 08-23-2018 11:14 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4645345)
I cannot answer the second and when asking whether or not something is in the chaos meta, the answer is usually yes.

Xiz showed during the manti lynch last game (just realized you weren't there so just laugh and nod on this point) that he doesn't really give a fuck when he's pushing lynches through as a wolf

er, but i didn't know manti was a wolf tho

the sun fan 08-23-2018 11:14 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4645316)
you did? like i "met" you in the second phoenix wright game and we didn't talk over discord or anything, and idk you from anywhere else before

i grew a fear that sunfan was trying to lay down a fake slip that he shared a wolfchat with me

that's just like 3deep5me man
that's jrodd slightly misspelling the names of one of his partners tier

Xiz 08-23-2018 11:14 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
but, thats true for my wolf play usually i kill whoever i feel like. alphabetical order, kill based on lowest post count, you name it. spicy kills > mechanic kills for me, creates more confusion

the sun fan 08-23-2018 11:14 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4645348)
er, but i didn't know manti was a wolf tho

yeah but "haha it would be funny if like all the wolves voted on the same person"

not that you lynched another wolf

the sun fan 08-23-2018 11:15 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4645319)
xiz

are you fooling me?
I don't feel as good as I maybe should

the sun fan 08-23-2018 11:20 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
idk man to answer your question from a while ago xiz my lynch order is something like
tps/freezin (I think I believe Freezin more than TPS now but does it really matter?)
blind
funnygurl
Celirra (stubbornness about the Tps lynch felt good to me)
inD
Precarious
Xiz

inD and Precarious are pretty interchangeable
you're kind of far and away at the bottom tho

Xiz 08-23-2018 11:20 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4645351)
yeah but "haha it would be funny if like all the wolves voted on the same person"

not that you lynched another wolf

ah yeah, probably my favorite lynch of all time.

inDheart 08-23-2018 11:21 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4645251)
i feel as though im good at finding softs but I never caught it, no way to prove it i guess. I can't even remember why i voted for dbp at this stage but i know i liked my reason.

my dude this is like the thing i asked you directly about, where you freaked out on me asking if i was reading your posts when i was asking you about sth different than your dbp read at that very moment

Xiz 08-23-2018 11:22 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4645356)
idk man to answer your question from a while ago xiz my lynch order is something like
tps/freezin (I think I believe Freezin more than TPS now but does it really matter?)
blind
funnygurl
Celirra (stubbornness about the Tps lynch felt good to me)
inD
Precarious
Xiz

inD and Precarious are pretty interchangeable
you're kind of far and away at the bottom tho

well at least cel and ind are in the middle for us

why precarious

Celirra 08-23-2018 11:22 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4645312)
b/w/o response to 2205

blind not including himself in his planned lynch pool is kinda nothing; he didn't vote d1 so he'd have to decide to look into nonvoters to suspect a group including himself. looking at syhto's reads (as another flipped town by that point) would really only add cel to the group so it was kinda consensus-y among the info sources he was valuing around here

him voting cel while talking 12 hours later about lynching in the gradiant pool is an inconsistency, yes. i think this is part of what other people townread him for; see freezin townreading him after this, sensing no agenda in his posting

and re: his "he had a good theory but put too much into it" point about dbp, i don't think his follow-up post is addressing the gradiant voters as a block, because dbp was the one to present the case. unsure where you're getting "as part of a scheme to wolfread an entire bloc? It feels constructed."

the trying to distance from the joke thing is a good point, because xiz's post is pretty throwaway, and would continue the theme of people not understanding jokes this game and thinking everyone's speaking incredibly deadpan (which is honestly my preferred mode, but it's no fun a lot of the time)

pretty sure DBP himself was the one questioning the DBP scumread around when the porn channel post was made; i can't find a xiz post saying the same

i think the word that strikes me is "floaty" - i think of blind as someone who's usually rather rigid with reads because he's proud of when he's right as town, but even the wolf game i've been using as a reference for him is one where he wanted to lynch the (imo) two strongest players in the game, one of whom was his partner. so there's also an element of rightness there

the floatiness itself just feels Different, and meta-breaking, even as he's sheepy. like, locking into apparent omgus on you breaks his team up, and it's weird because he would know that it does

So re: inconsistency, blind was really inconsistent in the last turbo tbh, but that could probably be attributed to the whole... not being there thing

Xiz 08-23-2018 11:22 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4645359)
my dude this is like the thing i asked you directly about, where you freaked out on me asking if i was reading your posts when i was asking you about sth different than your dbp read at that very moment

ah thats right. sorry forgot.

inDheart 08-23-2018 11:23 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
pretty sure cel's advocacy for lynching freezin is also ballsy as a wolf bc it's like, "shoot me if i'm wrong"

FreezinIce 08-23-2018 11:24 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
K, an hour left till eod and no wagons.

Who ya got.

Got milk read list

I gave funny a pass and got really nothing from it but a burst of activity at day start and head poking. Don't like her.

Cel is OK I guess. 2 big things is he's active and he is vocal about his thoughts

Sunfan felt gross but that might just be me reading him wrong. Really wish other ppl would weigh in on that exchange we had.

Prec and blind flipped on my reads. Prec feels townie now and blind looks like trash.

Indheart I feel guilty cause never can get a handle on type posting style or read your intent. Like I read your posts and I'm like "yeah, that's something indheart would say".

Xiz looked as bad as blind does but he has bursts of townieness. Plus everyone has been piling on him all day, he feels like a mislynch waiting to happen.


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