Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4749609)

wat would you like to hear

I haven't really found anything stand out so far so it's been kinda hard for me to make posts, but prompting questions always helps with that :mrgreen:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749708)

Don't give me questions to ask you and then outright ignore me!

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4749662)

BabyRage

hey I just beat bloodborne everyone who congratulates me gets a free town read

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749710)

This is kinda where I put my foot down tbh.

You've done nothing at all except weakly say "Oh whose reads have I been sheeping on?"

Which is a fair statement, and an ISO of you shows that you aren't really doing that. But it's kind of annoying to have you along for the ride and reap the benefits if you're town here

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749711)

Haku's wall is about as long as the old testament. I read it, and just like the old testament, it makes no sense to me.

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749716)

just wait until haku starts contradicting himself

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749717)

If he does, he's wolf?

If he doesn't, he's town?

Is that what you're getting at here?

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749718)

No I'm just saying he and the Old Testament have more in common than just their length and ability to befuddle

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749703)

my view on Ul is relatively the same as to what it was before based solely on her posts, but obviously inactivity is never a good look so I don't think that I will shed a tear if she's lynched.

I think there is 10000000000000% a disposition towards overreacting to whenever someone makes a post like she did on FFR. It ought to not be illegal for you to talk about what roles should do without someone jumping down your throat about "hEY! shut up about the blues roles, ok!?" I knew what Haku's post was essentially going to say before I scrolled down to read all of it, because that's just who he is.

To expand a bit more on that, no one asked her to do it. I replaced into a slot on another site (I replaced into a scum slot, rather), and the person I was replacing had done a similarish post to that where no one had asked her to make that post, and it really was her just trying to say a lot of words and hope that it looked like she was being helpful. I will further state that these situations are different by saying that this person was not a slanker, and had a respectable postcount (wasn't the highest, but certainly wasn't trying to fly under the radar, don't remember what the number was at the time I replaced).

This... doesn't really feel like that to me, though I guess it could be. I just kind of believe that Ull made that post because she was trying to get into the headspace of mafia. I feel somewhat filthy making this read, but it seems like she is at a crossroads in her life, and she wanted to return to TWG. This feels like her trying to return to form, regardless of her alignment. People don't often lie about their meta, even when it can't be reasonably verified, so I don't really believe that this is some scum-sided post that is meant to root out the power roles. It is possible that this is a post that was made in order to appear helpful, without actually being so.

I will grant that the case is more developed than "SHE MENTIONED POWER ROLES! SHE MENTIONED POWER ROLES! NOT IN MY GAME!" which is normally about as deep as things get in this regard. In particular, raeko's read (I think it was raeko, I could be remembering wrong) that this was done without any attempt to connect any of it to the game, that I can agree with. Her content since was very lacking, and if she dies without providing any more content, I won't really cry about it.

There was, in my opinion, an awful lot of attention given to her post that I don't think was warranted. Almost everyone scumread it, aside from myself and plop (who has said that it was quite townie), or been confused by it (Lewdy can't handle posts more than 20 words anyways without a lady's bosom practically falling out of her top being the avatar of the person making the post)

TL;DR I think that there's much ado about nothing over her post. I don't think it is townie or wolfy, but rather an attempt to try to get into the game, and culture clash struck. If she is communicative in wolf chat (I don't know a thing about her wolf game), hopefully wolfchat would've advised her not to make it, but I know better than to speculate on wolfchat. Without more content, I am happy to see her killed today, but I don't think she is particularly scummy (I really ought to try to hammer out my reads more anyways)

the fg stuff lol idk she's in like 5 TWG games simultaneously right now and she works weird hours given her sleep schedule. I think that the inactivity between two slots is likely incomparable. DBP is always like this, for example. I know FG is in a lot of games. That doesn't make me think that either of them are more or less likely to be scum, but it makes me happier to see them killed due to the nature of inactives generally being wolves.

There, one exposé returned with another

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749706)

trying to flesh out my scumreads, I'd rather begin by trying to light a fire under DBP's anus

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4749720)

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749725)

anyways, I'll try to talk about some real reads (had to run an errand for a second there)

shadow was likely to be town for his postcount alone (more on this later) but his needle towards FFA makes him extremely likely to be town, its the first read that I feel good about

Hakulyte feels... alright. I don't want to read into the .lols too much, but he seemed confused in those (I know some he was quoting other people) but the like 2nd one he made or so was his own feelings and he elaborated later with an AA quote that really, really sums up Haku as town so I don't think he's putting on an act. Plus, as long as he keeps making those, he's basically unlynchable.

raeko had like one good post where it was decently thought through I don't remember what it was but I liked it (it wasn't the one on Ull)

there's a lot, and I mean a lot, of people who I don't really have scumleans on, butdon't have townleans either, if I don't mention someone, just assume they're here

of this tier, I will really only note that I think fatfuck is a bit more muted than usual. Maybe its AI, I dunno. Certainly wouldn't be a good enough reason to try to kill him today, its just there.

I've also said enough words on Ull, but I will mention she has less posts than I remember (yeah her largest post is worth something, at least), but since she's tied with DBP for the lowest, I'm more fine with that kill than I was before.

ffa's read on shadow rubs me the wrong way, because shadow hasn't demonstrated he can post this often as a wolf; he hasn't had a wolfgame in a long time. I know ffa isn't the only person to focus on both haku and shadow (which I think is, again, grouping people that don't deserve to be grouped together really). All in all though... I feel mostly meh about calling him scum for this, somehow. I think he did the same thing in the last game, maybe?

T-force's post are still no good btw I think I'm the only person who has really said this at all. Xiz if ur reading this, tell me what you think of t-force's posts.

DBP is at 7 posts and said he would be free forever.

these reads suck but w/e

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749726)

maybe I was more resistant towards voting her than I should be (this would probably be because it felt like so many people jumped on her for stupid reasons)

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749728)

Were there any other people outside of Xiz, myself and YoshL that you saw? Because 3 isn't exactly the biggest of numbers

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749612)

Yeah that's fair, how about Ulli's mechanics post? There's no way I'm quoting it because it's a massive wall.

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=209

Take a look at that and tell me what vibes you get from it

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4749525)

I kinda feel the same way... I got fishy vibes from that post but also I don't really have an idea of how this person plays so ????

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749612)

What about FFA's post here, where he half expects Haku, myself, and Freezin to advance things and seems to be uncooperative in terms of moving things along with the rest of us

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749612)

What about Sunfan's defense on Ulli

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4749701)

My experiences with FFA have led to this:
If FFA seems disagreeable and wolfy, he's probably town.
If he's agreeable and generally pleasant in the thread, he's probably wolf.



I realize that's cherry-picking on the same person I've basically spent all gamer talking about, but nyeh, I really don't care right now, and won't until day 1 begins.

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4749731)

ok hewwo I am done work for the day



As I mentioned in my post here

I got kinda fishy vibes from that post. To me it seemed like the stereotypical "mechanics to seem active" but also the content was just strange? Like even for a mechanics post, I'm not really sure what conclusions to draw from that on d0 when we don't have a single variable solved yet.


I think that's just the way FFA plays. I think I get what he means when he says you and Freezi normally move things along in games. Haku kinda but Haku more just posts a lot than actively prodding people like you which "moves the game along"


I just found the post you're talking about and I think sunfan might have made that post about anyone at the time. He's pretty much stopped defending her now but I'd be interested to see if his opinion changes if she were to come back and post more

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749730)

well, ok, Haku said my take of not wanting to kill her for talking about roles was likely to be correct, or that the take was good or something, which is kind of uh

monumental, for lack of a better word

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749736)

Yeah, I'm not even sure what I want to solve first to make the game easier.
If someone has recommendations for that I'm all ears.

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749742)

Do you not usually find townie people first?

That's been your bread and butter for what appears to be eons

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749736)

Yeah, I'm not even sure what I want to solve first to make the game easier.
If someone has recommendations for that I'm all ears.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749732)

Xiz is someone I want to keep alive because I feel like his input is valuable regardless of alignment. I think voting there D0 is a waste.
I have a similar feeling toward Sunfan.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749732)

Raeko gets a pass from tone I guess.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749732)

Freezin is pure null. I don't think he has a single post that helps me lean him. That worries me. If someone has a lean on Freezin, I'm interested.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749732)

Plop is a bit ?? because the FFA vote happened with straight up no explanation.
I didn't like that.

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4749738)

I feel like I'm sheeping other reads here, but I also am reading Shadow pretty heavily town.

A lot of his thoughts and posts seem spur of the moment; no real hard self-editting like "does this make me look town? Does this make me feel wolfy?"
It just feels really genuine, and posts that he'd make when he has no information and is trying to create his own world of sense.

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749671)

ill wait till it gets crystalized tyvm

im going out in a bit so heres my jank reads/impressions before i go

Shadow_God_10 - playing the same as i always see him play. not gonna get a read here this early and not looking to lynch here anyways d0

mellonxcollie - would like to see some more posts especially around eod cause i feel thats when i get a good read on raekos alignment

Hakulyte - same boat as shado. d0 isnt the day to catch him wolfing

flashflash account - ngl ill policy lynch him before i put up with someone saying i should lead d0 lmao

YoshL - really gone tone on the posts ive read

fatfuck42 - hes done like nothing tho

TWGma - a few spicy posts that i liked so hes above average

Funnygurl555 - its a bad sign when i cant remember anything specific about you

the sun fan - still not buying his explanation fully but i guess he can stay off the table today

Xiz - playing alot more cautiously than im used to seeing. no idea if thats wolfy or not at this point

DaBackpack - if dbp doesnt deliver ill prob lynch here

Ulleabhara - theres content here but i need context to frame it in. so i guess i can wait for more content

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4749746)

I feel like your main problem is focusing on WAY too big of a picture. And also basing assumptions off of other assumptions. Try to keep yourself more grounded and you'll find things to solve organically

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749747)

I'm a fan of putting out d0 explanation-less votes on people who I wanna try and figure out. I'm pretty sure I've done it as both alignments in games we've played before.

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749741)

T-Force do you have any direction of where you'll be lynching today? I don't think you've moved you vote from FG way back when

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749743)

That would iso Plop/FG/DBP as the team.

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749749)

What're your feelings about sunfan (and IIRC xiz) casting shade on you? I remember you defending yourself against xiz and shadow earlier on, but what about the more recent developments?

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749749)

What're your feelings about sunfan (and IIRC xiz) casting shade on you? I remember you defending yourself against xiz and shadow earlier on, but what about the more recent developments?

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749758)

Don't think FG/Ule are W/W, but Yoshl/Ule being W/W wouldn't surprise me.

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4749759)

Until then, I'm just putting wires together.

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4749759)

Until then, I'm just putting wires together.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749752)

I mean, my goal is to town read you if that's possible.
I try to look into why people vote the way they do.
If you just vote and go like haha mystery vote.

How am I supposed to trust that ?

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4749755)

Not worth caring about due to how early it is and my effort level in D0. I seem to have a habit of being mislynched in D0 due to my exceptionally passive style of play early on, and it seems like people expect that to change.

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749760)

Why wouldn't it surprise you? Just out of curiosity.

Also what separates FG from YoshL in these two pair ups?

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4749755)

Not worth caring about due to how early it is and my effort level in D0. I seem to have a habit of being mislynched in D0 due to my exceptionally passive style of play early on, and it seems like people expect that to change.

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4749757)

That said, I like where Xiz's head is at so far, but I know he said before the game he wanted to be less chaotic in his play so I don't want to read too heavily into that regarding his alignment.

It also just feels like the usual song and dance with them anyway where they just tiptoe in circles around each other while we're all on the sidelines snapping our fingers.

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749760)

Why wouldn't it surprise you? Just out of curiosity.

Also what separates FG from YoshL in these two pair ups?

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749767)

Ule's only substantial read was a townread of yoshl for townhunting, and yoshl's biggest post (IIRC) was our discussion about her big mechanics post. While he casted shade on her, the conclusion was we'd wait to see whether she incorporates her analysis later on. I could see it as a wolf coaching/distancing thing.

For FG, in her iso she defends ule and brings her up at least a few times, at one point joking that they're wolfing together. Don't think wolf FG would be that focused on a teammate, especially with so few posts (unless it were T-Force, of course).

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749758)

Couple thoughts from re-reading:

Don't think FG/Ule are W/W, but Yoshl/Ule being W/W wouldn't surprise me.
?

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749772)

I'll be back home in a bit but i want to say I find it hilarious everyone is just ignoring my thunderdome on ffa. I think only sunfan commented on it?

Wtf is wrong with u ppl

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749773)

idk, you're not an interesting vote and idk why FFA is your top priority.

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749775)

You reminding me of charu, with this thirst for an information lynch.

Not like theres much better to do though tbh

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749776)

FFAs my top priority because he wants me to lead d0 while he does nothing

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749777)

"Haku why havnt you solved the game for me d0 yet? "

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749770)

I don't like this because I feel like it's justifying my Plop/FG pairing.

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4749771)

Can you explain this more

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749767)

Ule's only substantial read was a townread of yoshl for townhunting, and yoshl's biggest post (IIRC) was our discussion about her big mechanics post. While he casted shade on her, the conclusion was we'd wait to see whether she incorporates her analysis later on. I could see it as a wolf coaching/distancing thing.

For FG, in her iso she defends ule and brings her up at least a few times, at one point joking that they're wolfing together. Don't think wolf FG would be that focused on a teammate, especially with so few posts (unless it were T-Force, of course).

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749772)

I'll be back home in a bit but i want to say I find it hilarious everyone is just ignoring my thunderdome on ffa. I think only sunfan commented on it?

Wtf is wrong with u ppl

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749785)

I was just confused by it since I think the general consensus on you has been town leans or null reads.

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4749541)

hi guys I just got home from family weekend, will be tutoring for a few hours, and then I'm set forever

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4749622)

just finished tutoring, but it looks like EoD was delayed

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4749623)

hot take: FFA is a wolf