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Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:30 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
mikey how dumb do you feel rn that you wolf sided against xiz when me and funnygirl were townreading

Bolth mannn 04-29-2020 07:30 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728058)
based on wagonomics he showed me lol

??????????????????????????????????????????

Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:31 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4728061)
??????????????????????????????????????????

you quoted a wagon that likely has 3 scum out of 6 players, with a likely cop on it making you like at least 50 percent scum chance here why the questions marks

flashflash account 04-29-2020 07:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728060)
mikey how dumb do you feel rn that you wolf sided against xiz when me and funnygirl were townreading

when I tried to get xiz to do anything they threw a tantrum and claimed vig
not any more dumb than any other scum read I have

Bolth mannn 04-29-2020 07:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728062)
you quoted a wagon that likely has 3 scum out of 6 players

I disagree with this part.

flashflash account 04-29-2020 07:34 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
to be clear
historically my scum reads are pretty dumb

Bolth mannn 04-29-2020 07:36 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4728065)
to be clear
historically my scum reads are pretty dumb

I think Shadow is an interesting one to look at. Their vote on Xiz was at 1 minute - EoD and was wholly unnecessary. Is that indicative of anything? Like I'm genuinely asking, is that usually more indicative of town or scum?

Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:38 PM

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MixMasterLar, leetic, DaBackpack, Hakulyte, Bolth mannn, ShadoWolfe, jesse, ffa

ffa and leetic cop claimed, why leetic is alive is a big ?? for me though

so mml dbp haku bolth wolfe jesse

we are always in one of these worlds assuming claims are legit:

1) Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

2) Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather

dbo red check means we have these remaining:

mml haku bolth wolfe jesse

with 2-3 scum depending if we have a serial killer or not

so all of these players actually come in about 50 percent chance of being scum just based on odds alone

haku is probably town i think? mml is green checked so despite the fact scum have a godfather we dont lynch today because it is more likely he is town than others

bolth wolfe jesse: is todays lynchpool, probably first 2 have been the worst this game and you are welcome for carry boys good luck

flashflash account 04-29-2020 07:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4728066)
I think Shadow is an interesting one to look at. Their vote on Xiz was at 1 minute - EoD and was wholly unnecessary. Is that indicative of anything? Like I'm genuinely asking, is that usually more indicative of town or scum?

not really
it can be motivated by either alignment and often depends on the flip

Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:40 PM

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wait im retarded the lynch is obviously dbp

Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:41 PM

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though mikey is gonna unclaim soon unfort

Bolth mannn 04-29-2020 07:41 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728067)
mml is green checked

Hypothetically

Quote:

bolth wolfe jesse: is todays lynchpool, probably first 2 have been the worst this game and you are welcome for carry boys good luck
petition to add you to the lynchpool.

Thanks for giving me something but yea I am not sold on you.

Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:43 PM

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i am not at all interested in selling my wares to you sorry i serve an elite clientele only

flashflash account 04-29-2020 07:43 PM

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I mean
we could hammer

Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:44 PM

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Ok but if dbp flips town we are lynching you tomorrow

Bolth mannn 04-29-2020 07:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728072)
i am not at all interested in selling my wares to you sorry i serve an elite clientele only

...

flashflash account 04-29-2020 07:45 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728074)
Ok but if dbp flips town we are lynching you tomorrow

if dbp flips town I already threw this stupid game, so why would I care

Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:47 PM

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Mikey are you or are you not cop, if you are cop we probably just won regardless still 2 cops is broke

flashflash account 04-29-2020 07:48 PM

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right now I'd rather we discuss the benefits of massclaiming today vs tomorrow

does anybody know
last time I decided that massclaiming was correct it ended up being pretty correct

I wish sunfan was here

Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:48 PM

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And if you are cop that means we have another pr aside from leetic since there's no serial killer so we still have another clear townie

flashflash account 04-29-2020 07:50 PM

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@Haku do setup magic pls

Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:51 PM

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It's correct today if you are cop with a red check because we have 50 percent chance of hitting the roleblocker from mafia, meaning one of our cops gets another check tonight while one dies

The third pr won't die so we enter tomorrow with 50 percent chance of 3 clears, if dbp is roleblocker. I'm assuming leetic was roleblocked tonight, of you are cop scum are guarenteed to have roleblocker

So it's like a coinflip really

Hakulyte 04-29-2020 07:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4728081)
@Haku do setup magic pls

For 1-shot vigi + 1-shot Cop + Cop ?

flashflash account 04-29-2020 07:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728078)
Mikey are you or are you not cop, if you are cop we probably just won regardless still 2 cops is broke

if I'm the cop I've been drinking a lot of wine

flashflash account 04-29-2020 07:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4728083)
For 1-shot vigi + 1-shot Cop + Cop ?

plus wolf roleblocker

flashflash account 04-29-2020 07:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728082)
It's correct today if you are cop with a red check because we have 50 percent chance of hitting the roleblocker from mafia, meaning one of our cops gets another check tonight while one dies

The third pr won't die so we enter tomorrow with 50 percent chance of 3 clears, if dbp is roleblocker. I'm assuming leetic was roleblocked tonight, of you are cop scum are guarenteed to have roleblocker

So it's like a coinflip really

have you forgotten that leetic was 1x

Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:53 PM

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If you are cop it's

2 cops
1 vig 1shot (dead)
1 shot cop/roleblocker/inno child/doc (alive)

Mafia goon
Mafia roleblocker
Godfather

Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:54 PM

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Wait I'm not accounting the changes

Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4728086)
have you forgotten that leetic was 1x

Oh I haven't been reading the game very much

Hakulyte 04-29-2020 07:55 PM

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Yeah, we're missing a town PR.

Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:56 PM

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There's a lot of possible scenarios still then based on the changes by host

Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:56 PM

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We could be missing two technically

flashflash account 04-29-2020 07:57 PM

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hmmm
then I think we should massclaim tomorrow
town has 3.5 clears, goes down to 2.5 clears tomorrow, 50/50 of hitting a wolf?

yeah, it's iffy, but I think it's better to claim tomorrow since it won't be lylo

flashflash account 04-29-2020 07:57 PM

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I mean, it could be lylo

hypothetically

flashflash account 04-29-2020 07:58 PM

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fg kill was probably just angel dodging tbh

Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:58 PM

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Ok what is a godfather serial killer mafia member

flashflash account 04-29-2020 07:58 PM

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I'm debating it meaning jess fearkills fg, too

Duskfall 04-29-2020 07:59 PM

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Oh maybe he forgot to but a ,

Hakulyte 04-29-2020 08:00 PM

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I think game is over after DBP/Bolth/Shado.

Jess probably just bait.

Bolth mannn 04-29-2020 08:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728089)
Oh I haven't been reading the game very much



Sometimes I wonder why I even bother reading the thread when you can get townread by everyone for doing nothing

I think mass claim tomorrow is probably better but I also think Iím not voting dbp or clearing MML based on a hypothetical claim either.

Dusk still my top pick, I think we should be looking at Jess and Shadow more closely.

Duskfall 04-29-2020 08:03 PM

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Ok there is no serial killer so assuming Mikey is actually cop mafia team is

Roleblocker
Rolecop
Rolecop/godfather

If godfather we have no more prs

If rolecop we have two more letters worth, but mafia have 2 rolecops so probably have all the info they need anyways

Hakulyte 04-29-2020 08:03 PM

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CCCVTTT doesn't have roleblocker so, it's probably CCCVTTX where X is another role like 1 shot angel/blocker/IC.

flashflash account 04-29-2020 08:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4728099)
I think game is over after DBP/Bolth/Shado.

Jess probably just bait.

if bolt/shado are town then the game is in fact over

Duskfall 04-29-2020 08:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4728100)
Sometimes I wonder why I even bother reading the thread when you can get townread by everyone for doing nothing

I think mass claim tomorrow is probably better but I also think Iím not voting dbp or clearing MML based on a hypothetical claim either.

Dusk still my top pick, I think we should be looking at Jess and Shadow more closely.

This is probably a slip LOL

Duskfall 04-29-2020 08:07 PM

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Mikey is dbp red or not because if he's not I'll vote the open wolf instead of the non existent mechanical wolf

Bolth mannn 04-29-2020 08:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728104)
This is probably a slip LOL


Iíve made some sort of a supposed slip every single game Iíve played, idek what part of my post youíre referring to

Hakulyte 04-29-2020 08:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728104)
This is probably a slip LOL

Well, Xiz and FG wanted to vote there so, maybe that's a thing.

flashflash account 04-29-2020 08:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728105)
Mikey is dbp red or not because if he's not I'll vote the open wolf instead of the non existent mechanical wolf

I want dbp's wolf pelt on my sofa tonight

flashflash account 04-29-2020 08:10 PM

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hypothetically

Duskfall 04-29-2020 08:11 PM

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It's the part where you forgot you are meant to be solving the game bolth and commented on how reading the thread isn't a necessary part of your play, because you only want to be townread not solve. If you could get townread without looking like you are solving the game you would but you don't feel comfortable doing so

So perspective slip

flashflash account 04-29-2020 08:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728110)
It's the part where you forgot you are meant to be solving the game bolth and commented on how reading the thread isn't a necessary part of your play, because you only want to be townread not solve. If you could get townread without looking like you are solving the game you would but you don't feel comfortable doing so

So perspective slip

...hard pass on that
what

Duskfall 04-29-2020 08:12 PM

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Mikey this is literally going nowhere you are either cop and he's red or you are not cop and he will say "I'm town that's fake" and you will rescind, so just spare us all

flashflash account 04-29-2020 08:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728112)
Mikey this is literally going nowhere you are either cop and he's red or you are not cop and he will say "I'm town that's fake" and you will rescind, so just spare us all

the second scenario always happens unless we are both vanilla town

flashflash account 04-29-2020 08:13 PM

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what the wolves can't account for is whether or not I'll break the town information social contract

Duskfall 04-29-2020 08:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4728113)
the second scenario always happens unless we are both vanilla town

The second scenario always happens unless you are cop

I have yet to see a fake red check ever do anything in forum mafia so either hard claim or stop wasting time please

flashflash account 04-29-2020 08:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728115)
The second scenario always happens unless you are cop

I have yet to see a fake red check ever do anything in forum mafia so either hard claim or stop wasting time please

dbp will always dispute the claim, I mean
besides, I'm not even claiming, I'm just hypocopping : )

Duskfall 04-29-2020 08:17 PM

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Yes but I'd you don't hardclaim he won't get lynched

On play alone you are more scummy than dbp I think

Hakulyte 04-29-2020 08:17 PM

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Wolves will know if you're lying. :v

flashflash account 04-29-2020 08:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728117)
Yes but I'd you don't hardclaim he won't get lynched

On play alone you are more scummy than dbp I think

I'm not rescinding anything

flashflash account 04-29-2020 08:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4728118)
Wolves will know if you're lying. :v

what are your current thoughts

Bolth mannn 04-29-2020 08:19 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728110)
It's the part where you forgot you are meant to be solving the game bolth and commented on how reading the thread isn't a necessary part of your play, because you only want to be townread not solve. If you could get townread without looking like you are solving the game you would but you don't feel comfortable doing so

So perspective slip



Of course I want to be fucking town read

Iím trying to solve but people keep throwing me in the lynch pool without any sort of real reasoning, and anybody I push just gets brushed off.

It is clear to me that wolves are leading the direction of this game, and I feel absolutely powerless as a player to stop it.

flashflash account 04-29-2020 08:20 PM

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has anyone seen bolt ate as town yet? I don't have enough experience with them to know, but they've been pushing down on it pretty heavily this game

Duskfall 04-29-2020 08:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4728121)
Of course I want to be fucking town read

Iím trying to solve but people keep throwing me in the lynch pool without any sort of real reasoning, and anybody I push just gets brushed off.

It is clear to me that wolves are leading the direction of this game, and I feel absolutely powerless as a player to stop it.

You think wolves are leading the game and so I'm the push?

Mhm

flashflash account 04-29-2020 08:25 PM

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apparently I'm older than dusk
that's news to me

Duskfall 04-29-2020 08:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4728124)
apparently I'm older than dusk
that's news to me

How old are you?

flashflash account 04-29-2020 08:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728125)
How old are you?

old
it's weird, cause our dynamic suggests you wear the pants in this relationship

Duskfall 04-29-2020 08:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4728126)
old
it's weird, cause our dynamic suggests you wear the pants in this relationship

I wear the pants in every relationship

Bolth mannn 04-29-2020 08:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728123)
You think wolves are leading the game and so I'm the push?



Mhm


I think the fact that no one is taking my push on you seriously is proof that thatís not where the wolves want the focus to be.

FFA, Iíve never made it past night one as a town before now lol

flashflash account 04-29-2020 08:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4728128)
I think the fact that no one is taking my push on you seriously is proof that thatís not where the wolves want the focus to be.

FFA, Iíve never made it past night one as a town before now lol

welp, must be a wolf then :bigbrain:

flashflash account 04-29-2020 08:33 PM

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honestly, I still tr bolt for their response to my catch on them
it was very unexpected and candid, I want bolt to be the kind of person who doesn't fake that

ShadoWolfe 04-29-2020 08:46 PM

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aight

I'm not one for dwelling on nightkills buut I don't like that kill

the actual cause is endless wifom but it doesn't bode well in any case

does anyone else who said clearing up the Xiz question was necessary feel like maybe it wasn't necessary after all? 'cause like, I got no satisfaction from that lynch

flashflash account 04-29-2020 08:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4728131)
aight

I'm not one for dwelling on nightkills buut I don't like that kill

the actual cause is endless wifom but it doesn't bode well in any case

does anyone else who said clearing up the Xiz question was necessary feel like maybe it wasn't necessary after all? 'cause like, I got no satisfaction from that lynch

what are your reads

ShadoWolfe 04-29-2020 08:53 PM

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jessiebessie

hey jess, when you get here can you talk about anyone you feel confident about in either direction? like people you have a good feeling about or a bad feeling and why

I get that you're moving, but there's only one reason you didn't get lynched yesterday and that isn't going to be enough to skate by on this time if you don't give us enough to read you by

MixMasterLar 04-29-2020 08:54 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
If I'm rollblocker I blocked Bolth
If I'm seer I checked DBP

Speaking of which


Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4728020)
dbp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4728021)
dusk

Please give me some reads.

My current feeling is that the wolf team is Dusk, Jess and one of either DBP or MML

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duskfall (Post 4728032)
DBP

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4728033)
Nah, no wordplay, are these real?

dbp tentatively



nah bullshit reasoning

Tell me why I would vote DBP, who had sound reasoning and valid suspicions that some of you AGREED WITH ti lynch Xiz over someone like FFA who somehow hit fucking jackpot on being right dispite it makingno sense and ia now being all holier-then-thou about it.

Like calling someone wolf but wanting to keep them alive is simply more sus then DBP mechanically deciding that a mechanically sound lynch is sound.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4728128)
I think the fact that no one is taking my push on you seriously is proof that thatís not where the wolves want the focus to be.

FFA, Iíve never made it past night one as a town before now lol

No one takes your push seriously because youve yet to di serious work

But fear not, I'll be reading you intently this phase. After Apex

MixMasterLar 04-29-2020 08:56 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Apex now while the boys are on

TWG before Bed

DBP lynch solely because of Xiz llaying the worst game og his career is lazy and manipulative. The lynch should be NAI, although late comers like Shado ahould probably be invested

Bolth mannn 04-29-2020 09:02 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Hey ffa, why shadow over someone like Jessie or dusk for potential MML/dbp/?? team?

ShadoWolfe 04-29-2020 09:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4728132)
what are your reads

not liking anything rn.

I'm with you on lynching from the Xiz wagon. it's clear that wolves are steering this game, which is making me cut down my town pile to near nil

I'm looking hardest in DBP's direction for being the one name on the Xiz wagon that I think could've orchestrated and carried out a lynch like that, and I'll admit I probably let him float more than I should've based on liking his push on xiz earlier on

not gonna lie, I'm also tinfoiling on you pretty hard. your playstyle's been super different than the town!FFA I'm used to, and while I like the change and love the more serious approach, it's much harder to read you than it used to be.

ShadoWolfe 04-29-2020 09:04 PM

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if I'm seer I checked FG

flashflash account 04-29-2020 09:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4728136)
Hey ffa, why shadow over someone like Jessie or dusk for potential MML/dbp/?? team?

on this particular team it comes mostly from MML's atypical defense of uli

flashflash account 04-29-2020 09:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4728137)
not gonna lie, I'm also tinfoiling on you pretty hard. your playstyle's been super different than the town!FFA I'm used to, and while I like the change and love the more serious approach, it's much harder to read you than it used to be.

I should still be an easy town read


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