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*than

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whether the weather is weather or weather depends whether or not the weather is weather or weather

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Hi syhto I'm at work sup wichu

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I guess that doesn't change how I feel about Syhto tho? I suppose it makes more sense even, given the like cel/suntan stuff people keep bringing up

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Is she being paranoid?

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it sounds like it to me

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Do you think most people are paranoid

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@gradiant here nerd im showing my homework GOSH

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Idk man I have to decide if she's pushing back as a wolf or town and I think it's probably going to be too hard for me to tell given she got like 0 pressure during the jtwg

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in this game? i dunno.

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What about me in this game. Do you think I'm being paranoid

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i think the pressure is good though, i didn't really look at them before this so theres that.

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maybe stop relying on meta eh

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oh wait yeah i think i remember saying something about you being paranoid about me

it was something about our back and forth which went nowhere

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Blind/TPS/antipearl(now freezin)
Weren't posting much, so it leads me to think one of them may be a wolf. That was the only reason for that. TPS has posted more than the other two and I did think he had some decent input so they are still just on the IDK list

Cel has been acting all zzzzzz since the game started, and like I said, it reminds me of how I act (esp when I am a wolf) and I don't like it. I haven't played much with most of you guys, so I was getting paranoid

At first I liked the way you were calling Cel out, Xiz, but then you guys kept talking and I start working myself up. These people play with each other a lot, they could just be distancing themselves from one another!

Gradiant has been playing an observer role as has WC and I appreciate them seeming very neutral which is why I gave a town read to them.

It is all very soft and subject to change. I forgot about DBP and InD, which I am unsure about now as well. I want to think they are town for now, or just not good lynch candidates today because I am enjoying their back and forth and it's good for me to learn from their styles of reading I believe

I don't want to lynch FG because she isn't really here RN and because she has been lynched d0 twice and I don't think it's fair.

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Alright were coming up on rod time for me to stop playing like XIZ and start playing like... someone else

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So my top candidates are probably TSF/Cel/Freezin

because the only thing freezin contributed was something along the lines of how I was pulling a play out of his book or something

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i swear to god greg lol

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No

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I keep forgetting about Precarious. IDK about this person at all.

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WC and precarious I see keep hanging out in here but precarious doesn't say much, makes me start wondering if there's just a wolfchat going on and there is one person in the front running the shit rn

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Well, if this is the case, the person running the show is not likely to be either of these 2

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Food got here taking a break

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...So you're not ok with freezin but are with fg and you havent mentioned blind

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and ya i typed that up before I even saw that xiz was talking about me being paranoid
bc I definitely am

but that just isn't the case, I don't even think there is that much heat on me rn, I had 1 vote from cel, I just don't know how to make myself sound clear especially when cel keeps talking about how reasons are dumb
it makes me not wanna talk about my reads because none of them are very *SMART* per se. It's just how I'm feeling, don't know what else to tell you

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I did mention blind. He hasn't said much at all, I don't have shit

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I took that part out and forgot to edit it properly, my bad. woof, I'm just all over the place. Shouldn't drink caffeine past 6

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Reading through the jtwg again there are less similarities than I thought there would be. Syhto did tend to echo thoughts but she was a lot more confident in the jtwg. Maybe she doesn't seem so confident because of the player pool this time around. But I don't think that is the case as she's still playing mostly with people she's never played before.

I still don't like her reasoning behind her read on me. She flip flops saying it's because she reread posts but never specifies what about my posting has her so flippity flippity.

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oh

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oh and the vote was from tsf not cel. I really need to take a breather, dam

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my goal to confuse all of you has been accomplished I hope

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Also I'm totally leading the wolf team. That's me wc the tram lead

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who_cares973

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Jk I'm the department lead

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now you all feel how I do if so

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@xiz you and I have different bars for what we consider paranoia

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I wish I could feel the way your about does

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hello im new dog i'm applying for the new position

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pickin out sheepy stuff then

this is a response to a shitpost so uh, meh

idr you calling this sheepy, it does have a couple echoes from previously given reads though

also i see what cel meant now by calling my point on Noticing fg a stretch - it really is because i'm probably overvaluing the fact that a read existed instead of what the read actually was. fg seemed to be slipping off the thread mind so it's a way of bringing her back into the conversation, and that's where i got "importance to be right on"

this post is after you voted but it's along the same +1 lines, sure. i think the scumread on cel looks really consistent in her posts though, + she's talking to you about that second point now i saw

ok, i see what you're thinking here. if i can poke you again, what did you think of her reactions to pressure earlier when she was posting from work?

also was the +1ing in that game driving mislynches? or just kinda there for the passing appearance of having thoughts?

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Sorry for my absence. I've been busy with a real life obligation that came out of nowhere. I'm not sure if I'll be available at EoD or not. I definitely won't be available tomorrow (Saturday), but thankfully that doesn't really matter. My availability on Sunday will likely be limited early on.

Quick reads:

FG--Null. Post volume is fine, content is basically nonexistent. Tone isn't the deliberately unhelpful belligerence that a lot of people adopt--it's more friendly I guess, which is consistent with my past perception of Funny. Not a lot to go off of here.

inD--Slight town lean. Respectable post volume + actual game-related content. Tone is consistent throughout--a touch of humor and aggression, but mostly general game talk. I actually had inD as solid town at first, then convinced myself that the whole thing was almost too even-keel. But I honestly can't find anything that really bothers me.

Cel--Moderate town lean. It's not that it's impossible to fake this sort of game, but there's always going to be an element of deception to a wolf game--that can manifest itself in trying to toe the line too neutrally, or in being super aggressive and hiding in plain sight, or in seeming helpful while really not saying much at all. Or a million other things. Celirra has been engaged and has provided a thought structure to their game, yet has also been sort of sarcastic without being belligerent. I feel like this is a hard line to walk as scum.

WC--Null, slight town lean. So last game, I was a wolf, and one of the people I sort of falsely wolf read was WC, because that sort of jokey, flippant, not-super-engaged playstyle is easy to target, and I tend to suspect it in general. WC is doing more of that--to a degree, but it feels like there's more content here than there was early for them last time. The occasional focus on Sun Fan and Cel feels sort of real--like it would be an unnecessary complication if WC was a wolf and was just recreating this playstyle. But the thing about meta is that people are better at recreating it than given credit for, and the more game-focused play here is almost slightly offputting to me. That's a good development game-wise, but it leaves me undecided as to the actual alignment of the slot.

Gradiant--Moderate town lean. I didn't like how their game started--it felt sort of falsely engaged, but that impression dissipated quickly. For all the discussion that's happened, there hasn't really been much in the way of pointed questions, and I feel like Gradiant has done a good job making posts that cut to the point. The thing is, an experienced player can simulate towniness well enough, but the game so far has felt sort of unfocused, and Gradiant's posts have been probing and relevant.

Backpack--Town lean? The question mark is relevant because DBP's game feels like a departure from what I'm used to from them (not that I have a ton of experience with everyone, but whatever). It's tonally more aggressive than I would expect, and while I like the game-focus and the fact that DBP is pursuing things, it's more authoritative and less congenial than I would expect. The actual content itself is okay, and I wouldn't expect this type of play from a wolf-DBP. But it's weird nevertheless. It's also sort of a change from their very early game.

Xiz--Null, to slight wolf lean. So, in the last TWG, Xiz and I were both wolves. His game feels a little bit different here, which is a good sign I guess, but...he's doing a lot of the same things. And I suppose that could just be Xiz's style, and I definitely have a weakness where I associate non-game play with wolfiness, but...when people aren't doing game related things, and also aren't pressuring other people to talk, but are posting--it's dead space. It creates the impression of activity, and by avoiding game talk, it's harder to self-implicate. The thing is, Xiz's tone is a little different than last game, and I don't know if that's relevant.

Freezin (a.k.a Anti-Pearl)--True null. I'm suspicious of this slot, despite there being no content (which I don't blame the slot for) mostly because I don't see anything egregious from the other, active slots. But yeah, there's simply nothing to report on here.

Blind--Slight town lean. Low volume obviously, but that's not alignment indicative. The posts definitely are relevant but not necessarily useful--#482 is the most interesting. It's not hard to read wolfiness into something that discusses a scum perspective, but there was no obligation to do that, and it does apply currently (theorycraft is limited at this stage given the format).

TPS--Null. Obviously the post volume has been low, but what's there has been game-relevant and thoughtful, but not necessarily directly challenging. Sound like anyone you know? In any case, #463 definitely points to prior mafia/werewolf experience, and his posts include legitimate observations. I just feel like there should be more actual engagement given the...familiarity of his style. The fact that I'm not town-reading this slot gives me a bad feeling given TPS's tone, but I feel like a lot of that is due to the limited content, and I want to see more here.

Syhto--Slight wolf lean. And part of me thinks I'm reading them this way just because of that style of play. But more than that, the slot feels forced. I don't mind asking questions, but players who emphasize their newness tend to do so as a crutch, and it's a little alarming. The cutesy suntan nickname thing feels off to me as well; the whole persona feels too much like an effort to blend in with the rather casual-yet-sarcastic group tone these games tend to have. The funny thing is, I'd be inclined to town-read the slot based on the claims of unreadability, because its so needlessly WIFOMish that it invites attention I wouldn't expect a newish wolf to want. But that clashes with the later claims a bit.

Sun Fan--Slight town lean. Gameplay itself is almost generically town-sided, but there's clear investment given the post volume + the actual content and pressure. The thing is, the mix of gameplay, interaction, and offtopic stuff is almost formulaic--Sun manages to talk about both this specific game and TWG in general without always trying to solve it. And the more I go over it, the less substantial it feels. But the tone is almost too assured for a wolf.

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holy hell how did i miss so many posts while doing that

wc gets an Existence Point for going and looking at the jtwg

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I agree inD

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Alright I'm not lynching syhto after that stream of thought, not today at least

We had convinced me she's different enough

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+1

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Wv* has convinced me

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oh god here we go

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I like how you said "I'm not lynching syhto" with such authority TSF

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Well yeah who do u think I am? Xiz??

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its actually jarring hearing mr mushrooms being called tsf

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I'll get u later if u wolfin, friend

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oh come on I was the one who pushed for Sytho being town

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sunfan
unvote
sunfan
unvote
sunfan
unvote
sunfan
unvote

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Votes from post 5 to post 935
Night in 1:41:03
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 1 -- DaBackpack -- Gradiant
• 1 -- Xiz -- Funnygurl555
• 1 -- who_cares973 -- inDheart
• 1 -- Celirra -- Syhto
• 1 -- Syhto -- the sun fan
• 4 -- unvote -- Precarious (8), Celirra, who_cares973, Xiz
• 4 -- not voting -- blindreper1179, DaBackpack, FreezinIce, Tps222

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But did u do it with authority?

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Syhto if ur a wolf u padding my ego has been noted and I will maybe probably get around to addressing it

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feel like i know where i wanna go even less now

xiz who's a wolf and/or why is sunfan one

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I happen to have a very great, non-forced persona

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Alright syhto/precinct prolly not w/w for that one

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im not attempting to pad ur ego sunfan I'm actually calling you out on acting smug

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precarious you said this post was interesting in your read on blind
interesting how

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im not a fan of the precarious list

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celirra
Idk man

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Aw darn

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Sweet how many do I need to get before I can trade them for a prize

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ok i think we distanced enough there sunfan

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^lol

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If u get 25, u get to lunch whoever u want 4 free

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Idk man, convince me not to vote u. U were able to do it as a wolf so insanity dictates this time will be different

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Are we assmelding because that reads list is loads better than the one he made when he was a wolf in the last twg game we played. That doesn't mean much but fit looks like he actually put effort into it

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I know who I'm getting lunch with for sure

It's charu

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The last time Sunfan was having fun playing twg he was town. Does that mean he's town this time

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man nothing would make me happier than cel getting lynched and being a wolf right now

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^ this gave me the same "????" vibes that i got in the jtwg. saying "i'm suspicious of everyone's" kinda like a "no shit" thing to say, yeah?

i'm not done catching up, but syhto's posts do look better going forward, so i might retract what i said

unvote. the xiz joke was a joke vote

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I know uve said this prolly but why him over me?

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you convinced yourself when i wolfed actually

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Blind's spot has been inactive, obviously--not a lot of posts, and not a lot of content in those posts. That was actually a legitimate observation though--the wolf team can use their own roles to at least estimate how many town power roles there might be. You know, this:

I like theorycraft a lot more than most, although most of isn't really applicable yet, given that there's no way to know what sort of gamestate we have. One of the few things we can do at this stage is recognize that the wolves have a slight information advantage, using themselves to extrapolate on the gamestate. It's not that useful to the wolves, much less the town, but that recognition was interesting to me because it showed a kind of engagement that was otherwise absent from blind's posts. Whether that's because he's a wolf who would have had reason to think that way, or just because it was "analysis" that could be done absent following the thread, is sort of what I was getting at. I actually tend to believe it's the latter.

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to be honest i feel like shyto just doesnt like me

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No way