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LOL

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Okay fontisian, if you're the Cop, who did you seer during all this game and why?

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uh...

I just thought, maybe both of them are antitown

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One more before you go to bed.
Can you give me just a short reads list from most town to least town if Haku was fake

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uh...

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I'm a little torn between whether I should have held this until storn came online or let it go now and give the maximum time to discuss. It's something to think on after the game.

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Explain, please.

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Let's see.

I have a n0 on me, a n1 green on me, a night 2 red on me, and a night 3 roleblock on me. What do you think that means?

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yeaaah font that was weird

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does'nt matter now

a possibility is that you rolecopped AA, the SK, and AA knows it's bullshit because a "normal cop" can't seer him red

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wait what

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seconding this

what the actual fuck

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Oh. Right, you guys don't let the SK claim on this site.

That is so weird.

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Is joke.

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If haku was fake...

maybe DBP is a possibility because he was "covering" for haku? I realize that doesn't make much sense but it's the only association I have there.

I can't place storn properly because cedolad basically stopped posting after day 1 and storn hasn't interacted with haku at all. also can't place V because he didn't interact with haku either.

I can't remember exactly what rzr's reaction to Haku was but I think he was suspicious of him, that doesn't seem like the behavior of a partner in that case.

so if haku were a wolf specifically (more likely in that case because role check) then I'd say, from most town to least:

rzr because suspicion seems really weird in that scenario
xiz, I realize I don't actually remember much linking you to haku but this is going off of memory and I don't think I saw anything that stuck out to me
storn/V because no interactions with haku
dbp because covering? could also be read as town covering for someone he thought was a PR though so I don't really know

I haven't thought long enough about a potential scum haku so this really sucks

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I don't want to ruffle too many feathers, but I get Xiz not getting the joke, but you seem like you would have.

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Are you OK?

Serious question.

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you're confusing the shit out of me

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<3

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k now I'm really going to bed

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Take a moment, reread the last couple pages, then get back to me if you have questions, please.

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Out of game question for Xiz: Are you from Washington state or the district?

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I actually moved back to Denver to save up for graduate school, I was in Seattle, WA for the past year.

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Ah. That would explain the signature quote. Congrats on the superbowl win.

There's a mafia event going on in a month in the District, but since you're from the wrong Washington, I'm going to rescind the invitation I never made.

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the rzr/charu reads are too perfect to be totally made up

nothing you've done makes sense this phase, maybe I just need to look at this tomorrow

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@ AA, I'm just not smart enough to pull a Wolf play for that long without slipping once.

Even if I did silly random chaotic actions such as all my EoD Day 2 calls, I did it under the assumption that I was convinced that all of you knew I was confirmed 100% Town after Day 1.

Don't bother too much with my random posts, just make me post something constructive and you should be able to see how genuine I am. It's how Charu could easily near 100% confirm Town me in my first few games.

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The problem is, the longer and longer the game does on, that 100% no longer becomes 100%.

The chance of you fakeclaiming is really small but, to me you are no longer 100%. Only one is RB.

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I'm secretly hoping j-rodd123 gets here asap. I'm very curious to see a new perspective on this game.

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Total coincidence actually.

I did go over V's posts just after I claimed but before I dropped the checks, to make sure there weren't any blatant contradictions (hence the gap), and was pretty impressed with how beautifully it lined up. Probably the second most consistent fakeclaim I've made.

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I think i'm gonna go to bed. I'll reread this thread tomorrow lmfao.

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I 100% believe Haku is town, for what it's worth. The games' reaction to my claim and rescind doesn't jive with a meta where someone would fakeclaim while under no pressure that early in the game.

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Like the one thing I still hold haku to be true is how he loves to prove his point by sacrificing himself (like, claiming early)

Also it's the only response to the no wolf kill during n1 sooo

fuck lol, I guess he is true.

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yeah, my bad. haku is confirmed still.

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Thank you! ..but I'm not moving my vote.

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Fuck man, I can't sleep.

Let's build a towncircle instead.

The living players are: rzr/j-rodd123, Red Blaster, fontisian, xiz, dbp, haku, storn, AA

I'm town, Blaster's town, Haku is town. Xiz is probably town. Leaving Rzr slot, storn, DBP and AA. AA's not with storn, and Rzr's probably town, so DBP is probably the most likely mafia.

Is it better to try to lynch the SK or the mafia in this situation? SK's tend to townside when pressed, but that shot on Charu was definitely not townsiding. Having an extra kill tonight isn't the worst, as there are 8 alive, so even shots on two town wouldn't put us in a worse spot. I believe there is not town kp (killing power) left, but please correct me if I'm wrong on that.

Also, hitting the sk today risks overrun if there are three alive on the mafia team. While we probably lose eventually anyway in that case, best not to risk it.

So, yeah, aim for mafia. Keeping my vote on DBP.

Can some explain what Kitb means and how the voting stuff works before I fuck something up?

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You are one of the confirmed(ish). Please attempt to solve the game today. Thanks.

Also, I'm female. He is the wrong pronoun, guys.

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Hmm, I still pretty strongly believe Rzr is town. Like, the conviction he had at the beginning of Day 3 doesn't seem like it was faked. Maybe I'm pocketed.

It's possible DBP was just hedging his bets on the cop claim, or that AA is the godfather, I guess.

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That's problematic though, as one is more likely to hedge like that on a day you can win, which a team of only AA and DBP could not do.

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This was me attempting to get AA to make a towntell, by the way. Didn't work as he didn't react to this post, which is unfortunate.

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It's solved. I'd vote a 2nd time for you if I could, that's how confident I am.

I'm willing to bet the other team is AA.

He's tunneling way too hard on me for no reason while he's playing the Town game on every other subject. I don't feel like he's genuine at all.

I think everyone else is Town.

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Ok, I now understand kitb. I don't think I need to worry about Haku's vote on me at the moment, what with the sk in play.

But Haku, please actually read the thread. I know you hadn't when you voted for me, because you asked for my checks again after I had 1.given them and 2.rescinded. So, please just read what's happened.

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....

Oh, ok.

Eh, I'm ok with losing because of bad confirmed town.

Peace out.

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I can assure you I've read everything carefully as dumb as my posting may look to you.

You didn't even name the players you seered, only the color. Why?
Too lazy to fabricate stuff?

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Checked thread on phone and what lol

I just tinfoiled and said you could be scum, Xiz then asked me to provide reads in the world where you are

I still think you're near confirmed

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Is this a joke?

There, you don't even have to read the thread now.

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For clarification, Haku, since you aren't reading along, the first three quotes are part of a fake cop claim done to help solve the game. The fourth is an explanation of that game. And the fifth, sixth and seventh are you asking a bad question followed by me mocking said question.

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And, I'm getting pissed off.

Bed time.

Please read the game.

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In retrospect, the amount of snark in my previous posts was probably over the top.

I apologize.

Please read the game.

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I'm going to sleep because I can't read.

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gn

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1 member and 10 guests rofl okay guys

Anyway I was in bed and thought of something
Now that he retracts his cop claim, it makes the posts by V very fucking suspicious.
V COULD be trying to do what DBP did D2, but... I really don't live in that world right now. Especially with softs like that. I might need to read V's posts again.

To me you either are the cop or you are scum.

So, even though you retracted... I don't think you can claim VT anymore.

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I can't claim cop, Xiz. I'm VT.

Let's think about the world where I am mafia and you're town for a moment. Do you agree that I would only claim if I had two teammates alive with? And do you agree that you believed me and we're voting for AA? Why then, if I were mafia, would I have rescinded.

I would ask you to look at dbp's logic. He said he thought me not voting for AA indicated I was not the cop. This was fairly accurate, as I am town and did not want to accidentally lead a mislynch. But, dbp's explanation was that he thought I might be mafia and AA the serial killer, or vice versa. This doesn't make sense, as were I mafia, I would love insta lynching the serial killer for the win, and were I the serial killer, I wouldn't fake claim cop there as I wouldn't want mafia to shoot me. Does that make sense?

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font
I'd quote all the hilarious things so far but I'm on phone atm. Think it was dbp who pretty much said my exact thougts right now. Font feels scummy and AA feels like a good fit for the sk, just like that gut read yesterday. AA's attention to mylo seems a bit too clingy right now, and feels like he's trying to use it as his main defense. If you were wondering why I wasn't posting at eod much, it's because I got distracted with lTWG and didn't pay enough attention to the time.

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Idk I think it's best to assume there are always multiple mafia alive and to do so until the game is over. I doubt any of the lynches have been hits thus far with the helphelp lynch being the only potential due to Botchi's information.

Wait are you saying what I think you're saying?

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Insta is on btw and this phase needs to play out, so can you with votes unvote font for now as a preventive measure.

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oh I forgot my vote was on font

unvote

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yeah that was garbage logic ignore it

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I think you're thinking way too much about the SK right now and I still have no idea why I'd be a good fit for the SK

I'm still thinking about where I have font but the fact that you just vote him and backpack on DBP seems very suspicious. I guess I'll have to see what you quote right now though

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also storn you keep saying you think I'm the SK but haven't provided any evidence besides a gut read and "he fits"

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No.

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I am still a she.

I apologize if you're town and the claim tilted you. I think your reaction was more town than not, but I don't think I'm confident enough to go with that read until the end of the game :/

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hey guys i need to read to catch up still, im town DUH

red and haku are obv town too

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haku did you already use your 1 shot medic and 1 shot vigi?

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i posted that before knowing red was IC, what a waste of an IC

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So I've been keeping a list of my thoughts as this game has progressed, I guess it's time to share after I add up the most recent events.

Confirmed Human Pool:

Tokzic Killed by Mafia n0
botchi246 Killed by Mafia n2
Charu Killed by Mafia and SK n3
Red Blaster Innocent Child
Hakulyte Medic*

This is rather self-explanitory here.
*Haku's confirmation is based off of him being un-cc'd. Obviously he could be faking and our real medic could be dead, but for the time being he get's the clear.

People I think were human:

XelNya Killed by SK n1
danceflashrevo Lynched d2
tilocoYoshL Killed by SK n2
Sinistrosuede Modkilled n2*
reuben_tate Modkilled n3*

When looking back at these people I tend to view them as 99% human due to some action or other than they had, I had to look back at D1 and examine Xel's posts and his reads and they all looked pretty good to me. With YoshL the it's essentially the same, I was mind melding with him on certain issues, had him dead set as town and generally agreed with his reads. However in the case of both Xel and YoshL there are slight doubts: mainly that they were killed by the SK which does nothing to confirm them as human.

With dfr his actions at eod just scream human to me. When everybody claimed he didn't move his vote to someone else, and he didn't have his vote on anyone with a role, but instead made a post about how all of his reads were wrong and he needed to re-evaluate his stance on V..whereas I think a wolf in the position of being top lynch candidate would've easily opted to toss a vote on the next highest wagon, me, and slip safely into the next day.

*Obviously it's hard to come down one way or another on Ben and Sinistro as they didn't post much, if at all in Sinistro's case, but being the skeptic that I am I'm doubting that either was a scum. To his credit, Ben did offer up some genuine frustration at being so far behind which I found extremely human.

People I'm not sure on:
roundbox Killed by SK n0
helphelp11 Lynched d1
SKG_Scintill Lynched d3
rzr j-rodd1230
cedolad storn42


So based off of Botchi's results someone between roundbox and helphelp was a wolf but we have no idea who..I really doubt it matters much at this point in time because what really can we draw from either of them anyway?

On Scint, I didn't really have many interactions with him/her(?) so they are completely null to me..I think the main reasoning for the lynch was inactivity as well as a few posts that were weird, but I definitely need to re-read the interactions, I do however want to view that lynch as a miss.

With rzr we had a few minor back and forth discussions, but nothing too substantial. I certainly wasn't reading him as scummy, but at the same time I never really saw anything that would make me put him in my clear, or even almost clear, group. I really would like to hear from jrodd.

People who I think have a good chance of containing a scum or two:

Vendetta21 fontisian
Xiz
DaBackPack
_Zenith_ AragakiAyase


Obviously I've been hounding AA and Dap from like D2 so kinda self-explanatory as to why they are here. I do think though, if one were to be a wolf the other most likely would end up being town or SK..not really seeing them as a W/W scenario.

I think Xiz has had a few questionable plays throughout this game which have pinged him out on my radar, although that said he's probably the person I'd say I least suspect out of this group..but I can't shake the feeling that there's something more here.

And Fontisian well...you only need to look at the current days events to know why you're here. False claiming cop, even if it's for reaction testing is a really weird play. Before all of this, I was reading V pretty solidly as town but now that read has been turned absolutely upside-down.

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According to him, yes.

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yea you'd like to hear from me but im 2000 posts behind so i wont be caught up until after school

just looking at something as trivial as post count isnt dBP kind of polarized to villa or SK, i mean hes just not a capable wolf

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In case you wanted to hear it from me, Yes. I didn't expect to be alive now because I hard claimed Day 2. I feel bad for using 1 shot after claiming. I didn't understand the roleblock mechanic properly and pmuch wasted it. I used the Day 1 medic save on Vendetta because I felt like he was the obvious Mafia target in that phase. I'm nearly convinced this worked.

Sadly, it seems like I protected the wrong one.

I played really bad in terms of actions this game. That's probably why I'm still this in this game ironically.

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You prevented a kill, which is always a good thing.

I think you're being kept alive because we become more paranoid of your validity each day, and because you're no longer a threat and I think the scum is prioritizing getting rid of the SK over you at this point.

Out of curiosity, were you roleblocked again last night?
I want to know if they are still targeting you or have moved off to someone else

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I'm not buying this even as a joke especially at this point in the game.
If there's something you shouldn't have said, it's definitely that.
When I'm trying to read intents here, there's just a big "nope" as to why you would do this as Town.

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Haku, the SK thing was not a joke. I think it's weird that Greg won't let them claim.

The joke, for the third time, was that I was the cop and checked myself three times. Please read the game.

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If you look at the discussion at that point, you'll notice dbp thought AA might have been the SK, which is strange for a number of reasons. One of the reasons I was thinking but us wrong is that SK!AA would have claimed. The other reasons are still valid and make dbp very likely scum.

Red Blaster: I held a claim for 30 minutes, then rescinded and explained my thought process. This is a fairly common play on other sites to get information. It is called a "reaction test." I have no reason to do it as scum and many reasons to do it as town. I'm also using it to go after a person you think is very likely scum and get information on your other two scum reads. Please think instead of writing off weird as scummy.

I think storm is likely mafia for his voting, when others are thinking. Add in cedolad's play and storn's pile of garbage posts yesterday and yeah, let's kill that guy. I feel better about AA for his unvote.

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I understand what you were doing, I've seen it done here before..actually we had someone fake a red check on someone and they just gave up once.

What I'm saying is you most likely have ended up making yourself a target in doing so.

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Haku pls respond

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Wait what.

If it's been done here then why are you all so confused?

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I don't get what you mean by "again" here's all my actions for simplicity.

N0 - I free saved XelNya (I random.org that one)
N1 - I saved Vendetta (It felt obvious he was going to be targeted imo.)
N2 - I called I was going to used my 1 shot vigi on DBP, used it, and got roleblocked.

This makes me conclude that YoshL may actually have been a Mafia even if I never had any proof about him.

Day 3 - DBP self-cleared himself from everything I had against him. He's 80%+ Town for me now and no longer a target until the end of the game.

I also think rzr/j-rodd123 is like 70% Town, besides the sketchy claim Day 3 + replacing out, I think he was fairly genuine overall.

So, I only got roleblocked N2 and I'm out of actions so, you're unlikely to see me get roleblocked again.

My lynch order would be like:

Fontisian -> AA -> storn42/Xiz.

Everyone else is town.

I think storn42/Xiz are about on the same level in terms of alignment read. I think they're both low-profile Towns. I'd like it if they hard claimed/said things that would make them look very alignment indicative, but it doesn't feel necessary for today.