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Pozzai 02-7-2020 01:22 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Bootleg LordQuas (Post 4713000)
Bump

If wagons were at all competitive I was going to end day on ffa as well. I just didn't want to hammer

Raeko who was on Charu with me also made it very clear they wanted FFA dead.

AragakiAyase 02-7-2020 01:28 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
I remember why I stopped playing mafia because ISOs take way too long

Shadow - His D1 was pretty lackluster but so was pretty much everyone's. I threw him into the townpile off of tone/willingness to interact me, but on reread it's a weak read on my part and largely due to most people being gone. One post does ping me a bit:

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4712508)
Please kill me, thanks.

This was quoting this post:
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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4712506)
Is this something we should look into tomorrow?

which was in response to FFA saying something pinged him about quas trying to fit in. The progression to the "please kill me, thanks" doesn't really make sense to me. I think towns can get frustrated when the game is hard to solve and want to get out of the game, but wolves don't usually have that feeling, at least not genuinely. At this point in the game not a ton of people were posting but I don't think the game was "hard" enough to warrant this as town, so it reads to me like a wolf trying to mimic that town sentiment. Shadow what prompted that post on D1?

D2 there's this post:

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4712776)
If this wasn't answered I'm curious as to this as well.

I'm still slowly going through the posts (I'm on page 14)

Bootleg/Raeko/Arigaki are in my no lynch pile today from what I've seen from them so far. I don't ever vote on these three

and then this one after that:

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4712826)
Bootleg_LordQuas- Extremely active and voices his opinions on literally anything and everything. Constantly tried to get answers out of FFA but to no avail. Feels town to me tbh

Mellon- Raeko's just doin' her thing here. I don't see anything off or unusual from her usual town playstyle. Town

FFA- extremely dismissive of questions being asked on him, and posts nothing of any relevance (i.e Codenames (somewhere on page 14 or 15)) and generally tries to dodge anything directed at him by shifting us elsewhere. Mucho Wolfo

Pozz- I've interacted with you a couple times since I've woken up, and I don't see anything unusual from you. I'd need another day to get a feel for you. Null/Town

Aragaki- I've literally only seen you play town in past games, so I don't know what your wolf play is. Whenever you're around the questions come flying around, which I like. Town lean

Charu is noticeably absent here and he's definitely contributed enough at this point to at least throw him in null? It feels like a very odd omission especially given the small size of this game.

When Mellon/pozzai are talking about Charu's play as T/W he does comment, but it's only to say that it's hard for him to read him.

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4712841)
The thing about Charu that I've seen is he likes to play the game differently every single time, so it's hard for me to properly gauge him. It could be just me who feels that way or sees it that way

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4712860)
*impatiently checks watch*

He DID say 20 minutes, yeah?

This post feels a bit overdone to me, but that's purely a tone read. there were a couple others that stood out similarly

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4712867)
Oh goodie, he's back. Why are you wishing to lynch Pozz today?

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4712907)
...You made us wait nearly ONE hour for THIS?! Are you serious right now? Do you have ANYTHING else?


I don't have a ton to go off of shadow. He still reads ok to me initially, and my vibe is that he doesn't have 100+ games of mafia like some of us do. The biggest sticking point to me is how he essentially refuses to touch charu d2 and then some tone issues towards EOD2. Gonna try to do pozz -> quas -> charu for no particular reason

Pozzai 02-7-2020 01:28 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
Oh right, now I remember what the thing I had stuck in the back of my head was.

Assume a scum team of AA and Shadow:

Do they decide to go day1 with AA just being like "I'm sheeping Shadow" on a misslynch right out the gate? It's fairly powerwolfy.

Pozzai 02-7-2020 01:33 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pozzai (Post 4713004)
Oh right, now I remember what the thing I had stuck in the back of my head was.

Assume a scum team of AA and Shadow:

Do they decide to go day1 with AA just being like "I'm sheeping Shadow" on a misslynch right out the gate? It's fairly powerwolfy.

I also feel like there's very little reason for both scum!AA and scum!Shadow to end up on the same Dusk wagon, when the counter wagon is town!Quas

Pozzai 02-7-2020 01:34 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
I think I'm actually fairly okay'ish eliminating a scum team of AA and Shadow now... Hmmm.

AragakiAyase 02-7-2020 01:36 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Pozzai (Post 4713006)
I think I'm actually fairly okay'ish eliminating a scum team of AA and Shadow now... Hmmm.

is this because of my post or your two posts before this?

Pozzai 02-7-2020 01:37 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
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Originally Posted by AragakiAyase (Post 4713007)
is this because of my post or your two posts before this?

My own thoughts :p

Pozzai 02-7-2020 01:44 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
Like, I'm not superimpressed with the Shadow iso of yours, but, like there's not a whole lot to work with. Why did you have him so highly regarded as town day1?

Pozzai 02-7-2020 01:44 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pozzai (Post 4713009)
Like, I'm not superimpressed with the Shadow iso of yours, but, like there's not a whole lot to work with. Why did you have him so highly regarded as town day1?

Nvm this, somehow I missed your first paragraph.

AragakiAyase 02-7-2020 01:47 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pozzai (Post 4713010)
Nvm this, somehow I missed your first paragraph.

yeah it's definitely not a great read, it's more that we had 3 people with 1 post between them, dusk with 4, FFA was mostly afk, xiz had vanished...

Pozzai 02-7-2020 01:50 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
No one left had any greater experience with Shadow, right?

AragakiAyase 02-7-2020 01:55 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
only mellon gave a meta read on shadow and it was largely inconclusive

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Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4712558)
shadowgod is a relatively new player but has quite a few games under his belt at this point. he tends to post a lot of stream of consciousness type posts. IIRC from being his wolf partner he asked me what to do a lot in wolf chat, but then didn't wait for me to respond and just went yolo so he can be a bit of an independent wolf

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Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4712562)
I think he tends to post fluffy as either alignment so for that it's kinda hard to say


Shadow_God_10 02-7-2020 01:57 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
Morning! I'm gonna do some catching up and see where we stand. I DO believe we have to hit a wolf TODAY or else we lose? or am I incorrect here?

Pozzai 02-7-2020 01:57 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4713016)
Morning! I'm gonna do some catching up and see where we stand. I DO believe we have to hit a wolf TODAY or else we lose? or am I incorrect here?

We have to hit both wolves in a row, correct.

Shadow_God_10 02-7-2020 01:58 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pozzai (Post 4712968)
@Shadow who are the person in the game you feel like you from a meta and knowledge standpoint has the best read on, and what are their alignment this game?

Well, seeing as Raeko died last night. I have absolutely no knowledge on anyone. I might have read the one game that Aragaki was in but that doesn't help me AT ALL in this game.

Shadow_God_10 02-7-2020 01:59 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4712926)
I wanna vote FFA just don't want to insta

I wanted to look into this if Raeko were still alive, but sadly that's not possibly seeing as I believe she laid the hammer down on FFA.

I literally have to reset reads and think about people

I'm gonna do a couple ISOs and see where that gets me before I have to go to work

Bootleg LordQuas 02-7-2020 02:05 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pozzai (Post 4713001)
You can pop in and drop posts, and still be putting some kind of aggression or confrontation towards someone in the game.

It's the latter I miss, some kind of "oomph" from their posts some agency and urgency in trying to deal with players to determine their alignment, it really comes back to what I largely disliked about AA yesterday.

Towns tend to not give a fuck about how they come off to people, they want to figure out, scum tends to try to avoid outright confrontation if possible because it might come off as scummy.

Shadow largely suffers from the same problem and I keep flip-flopping a bit on them.
Shadow kind of just went "yeah my vote on Dusk looks bad, my bad" which I really liked at the time, it wasn't defensive of his action, but more just like "yeah what's one gonna do about it".

Honestly I think charus case on ffa has that oomph you were looking for. It was relatively early on ffa as well so not just pure bandwagoning

Bootleg LordQuas 02-7-2020 02:05 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
I do 100% agree on shadow having that villagery spice but that could easily just be a player thing tbh

Shadow_God_10 02-7-2020 02:06 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase (Post 4712990)
Shadow can you talk to me about your FFA/poptart townreads at this point? At this point FFA had 8 posts and they were pretty much all shitposts. Is the poptart read a meta one where you think a wolf poptart would have been tuned into the game?

Poptart literally signed up by accident and posted once....Actually... Now that I think about it, and now I want to run this in circles in my head... The last game Poptart rolled wolf he was grossly inactive and I BELIEVE had to be replaced..

Second verse same as the first maybe?


As for FFA at the time (and now I regret sticking to my instant gut here) I feel like FFA is a little lazy as town and I took that in the wrong way and thought he was wolfing to emulate his town game

Bootleg LordQuas 02-7-2020 02:07 PM

Re: TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread
 
If you want to get more meta on me you're free to try and read some of my games but uh

Good luck

I like posting


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