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TheSaxRunner05 04-3-2017 11:07 PM

Fall Memories [50 or 57]
 


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The chart has only 47 AAAs and has mini jacks layered into a fast swing section (Fast for a 50 anyways). There is one particular brutal part around 600 combo - where minijacks precede a burst that is difficult to control. Only 168 players have even FC'd it. Looking at the scoreboard, only D5+ have AAA'd it, whereas if it really was a 50, you'd expect some D4 or D3 AAAs of it too. I know the song hasn't been played that much, but still. The minijacks in this are almost as hard as streets (61), but don't appear as often. Given the tempo and technicality of the file, I'd recommend around a 57.

I know this isn't in the Contested Chart Difficulties Sub-forum, but that forum is dead.

Precarious 04-3-2017 11:50 PM

Re: Fall Memories [50 or 57]
 
Some quick thoughts:

I've played this file extensively (it was the R5 song in the Official Tournament for D1--I was in D1 at the time), and it's definitely harder than the R6 song (All is fair in rage). AIFIR is currently a 51, which seems roughly appropriate. For a D1 player, AIFIR felt fairly fast, but it's very manageable as I moved up. Even at the time, Fall Memories seemed more difficult, and the difference has become exaggerated as I've improved. My tournament scores were 705-96-20-7-51 for FM and 816-61-2-2-24 for AIFIR. Despite the much worse goods equivalent of FM, my round ranks were approximately the same for both. I've since improved to 3g clean on AIFIR, and just had an 11-0-0-1 run on FM.

At the same time, FM is fairly manageable at my current ability level (which is to say high D3). I'd have a hard time AAAing it, but I could certainly SDG with a solid run. For me, songs in the 50-60 range are sort of spotty--some are eminently playable, others are well beyond my ability to do correctly. Although I find FM challenging, particularly the minijacks, the minijack+burst, and the general near-hand layout, I'd say it's mid-tier for that difficulty range. Something like 54 or 55 feels closer in my estimation, although since it caters to my general level, my own strengths and weaknesses certainly color my opinion of the playability of songs in this range.

TheSaxRunner05 04-3-2017 11:56 PM

Re: Fall Memories [50 or 57]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Precarious (Post 4540926)
Some quick thoughts:

I've played this file extensively (it was the R5 song in the Official Tournament for D1--I was in D1 at the time), and it's definitely harder than the R6 song (All is fair in rage). AIFIR is currently a 51, which seems roughly appropriate. For a D1 player, AIFIR felt fairly fast, but it's very manageable as I moved up. Even at the time, Fall Memories seemed more difficult, and the difference has become exaggerated as I've improved. My tournament scores were 705-96-20-7-51 for FM and 816-61-2-2-24 for AIFIR. Despite the much worse goods equivalent of FM, my round ranks were approximately the same for both. I've since improved to 3g clean on AIFIR, and just had an 11-0-0-1 run on FM.

At the same time, FM is fairly manageable at my current ability level (which is to say high D3). I'd have a hard time AAAing it, but I could certainly SDG with a solid run. For me, songs in the 50-60 range are sort of spotty--some are eminently playable, others are well beyond my ability to do correctly. Although I find FM challenging, particularly the minijacks, the minijack+burst, and the general near-hand layout, I'd say it's mid-tier for that difficulty range. Something like 54 or 55 feels closer in my estimation, although since it caters to my general level, my own strengths and weaknesses certainly color my opinion of the playability of songs in this range.

Thanks for going fairly in depth on this.

I think it's actually very similar to a song that's a bit faster but with less technicality - Amerfuri, which is a 55. 57 may have been slightly overstated.

Anyone else check it out yet?

rushyrulz 04-4-2017 12:18 AM

Re: Fall Memories [50 or 57]
 
57 is overboard. 50 might be low. The patterns aren't actually that difficult and AAA/FC metrics can't really be used on a file this new.

Based on patterning alone, that bursty section in the middle is probably enough to raise it a few difficulties, but not all the way to 57.

Looking at other files that are rated 57 with minijacks, prominently: Voodoo People and FrainBreeze, it's just not up to par.

TheSaxRunner05 04-4-2017 10:01 AM

Re: Fall Memories [50 or 57]
 
The general consensus from the SotW thread was that Frainbreeze was a couple points low. After AAAing Amefuri as well yesterday though, I have come to feel these two charts should be the same (55). Amerfuri is faster, but less technical swing chart. 57 is a bit much.


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