Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4652204)

once again we see the classic example of "count roundbox's posts"

in many recent games, I've been accused of not posting enough
now I'm posting too much? ffr please

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4652207)

I think you're doing alright, I wouldn't vote for you this phase at least.

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4652205)

I mean, you just came in, did you absorb all the context needed, or you just picking on me because I happen to plop down a lot of text at once first?

Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee (Post 4652206)

and like i get that you can say they weren't really mature reads cause sunfan asked for them or whatever, charu.

but in the end the amount of explanation for what amounts to very little content just feels like faked content for appearances.

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4652207)

I think you're doing alright, I wouldn't vote for you this phase at least.

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4652208)

Votecount r us

Roundbox (2): Charu, MML
Charu (3): theknightsofneee, funnygirl, the sun fan
MML (3): Manti, Wayward Vagabond, Syhto
The sun fan (1): DaBackpack
Theknightsofneee (2) indheart, Hakulyte

Unvote (1): Precarious

This was kind of shoddy, tell me if there is a mistake

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4652141)

regardless, the point of this post is to call out these 5 people and give me something objective as to why we should bank on an inactive than someone with a non-zero of interactions

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4652211)

I assure you I wasn't doing that for appearance, I was giving what thesunfan asked for.

Originally Posted by Syhto (Post 4652217)

Oh I think I understood the emotional tell thing wrong but I still understand the sentiment there, ah well. All is well.

To me neee with the 3 e's is trying hard right now but I don't know if they are pushing the right direction. It's a tight spot to be in as a sub so I will continue to observe.

I like how MXC chimed in for a quick laugh and that was it.

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4652216)

Originally Posted by Syhto (Post 4652217)

Oh I think I understood the emotional tell thing wrong but I still understand the sentiment there, ah well. All is well.

To me neee with the 3 e's is trying hard right now but I don't know if they are pushing the right direction. It's a tight spot to be in as a sub so I will continue to observe.

I like how MXC chimed in for a quick laugh and that was it.

Originally Posted by Syhto (Post 4652217)

Oh I think I understood the emotional tell thing wrong but I still understand the sentiment there, ah well. All is well.

To me neee with the 3 e's is trying hard right now but I don't know if they are pushing the right direction. It's a tight spot to be in as a sub so I will continue to observe.

I like how MXC chimed in for a quick laugh and that was it.

Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee (Post 4652219)

that's still for appearance tho?

giving reads that aren't fleshed out doesn't do anything EXCEPT give the appearance of solving lol

you can just say 'nah sorry i don't really have fleshed out enough reads to give them yet' or just do other stuff that isn't give a reads list.

or push someone

like

idk man

Originally Posted by Precarious (Post 4652218)

For the exact reason I said. This isn't the first time Pearl has done this. If we assume he's not going to be replaced--and the likelihood that he will be is why I'm hesitant to fully commit to the lynch--then he's going to be a non-contributor throughout. If he does nothing, then he neither advances the game state nor does anything to make himself seem town or wolf. That leaves us in an impossible situation, because there's no way to guess at his alignment, which becomes ever more of an issue as the game narrows. Additionally, beyond content, all players can vote, and the inability to assume reasonable voting from Pearl again alters the game state negatively. If he's town, then LyLo is forwarded one player, because the state assumes that the remaining town players all have the capacity and willingness to potentially vote against scum. Similarly, if he's a wolf, then it's easy to mentally write him off as a non-vote, when he could essentially ambush vote.

All of this flies in the face of how this game is supposed to work, and in spite of some thoughts otherwise, I expect Pearl to be replaced (again). There are reserve players listed in the OP. But whether Pearl is town or wolf, it feels pretty safe to say he won't be helping the town.

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4652227)

you might not believe me but i just gotta believe that dunfan'll read me right once again

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4652224)

coordination?

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4652230)

nah sunfan cant be a wolf then who'll correctly read me??

Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee (Post 4652232)

by the way

for people not accustomed to me/how I play

I usually post a lot and make small poignant posts and push people hard even if I don't necessarily believe it as strongly as a let on so i can get better interactions/reactions with people.

so if i'm being aggressive towards you or anything, its not personal, its all game.

and i'll try and cut down the spam as long as it isn't near EoD.

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4652234)

You're fine my dude, if you were to be highly hostile I'd let you know in a heartbeat.

Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee (Post 4652233)

what a conundrum!

*pencils funnygurl in as an easy mislynch*

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4652236)

dont get me started....

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4652228)

how come you never seem to refresh and all your posts seem out dated...? Pearl has been replaced, I usually hit "preview post" within a few minutes of my post so I can make sure I'm up to date on all information. this just seems weird to me given the timing. kinda seems like a way to slide through without being held accountable for anything tbh

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4652228)

how come you never seem to refresh and all your posts seem out dated...? Pearl has been replaced, I usually hit "preview post" within a few minutes of my post so I can make sure I'm up to date on all information. this just seems weird to me given the timing. kinda seems like a way to slide through without being held accountable for anything tbh

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4652076)

I like where inDheart is coming from. I know his snap vote to Anti-Pearl is weary to some, but I didn't see it all that negative (hooray for biased views). He comes in and chimes in he doesn't like what Roundbox was dishing out and was weary. I understand where he's coming from since it came up without prompt and, further thinking of it, just seemed... ludicrous to think about? I don't know, I just like inDheart's mindflow, he's pretty town for me.

(...)

Thesunfan questioned roundbox's thing harshly and has been pretty straightforward to today's shenanigans. Is one of the only to pick InDheart up and question him for his snapvote on Anti-Pearl. We shall see, he's pretty null for me right now actually and I don't know

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4652240)

honestly i think you'd have me and sunfan in similar places since he beat me to saying several things, but you don't, so hmm

post has fairly warm thoughts on a lot of people and sunfan not being one of those people is somethin

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4652239)

I mean, they've done this in the past too in previous games.

Even when he's wolfin'!

It's possible he was maybe watching/talking/doing-something-else besides actively refreshing the thread, heh. I don't get the shade here though, don't trust his posts?

Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee (Post 4652247)

IME mellon's activity has been sporadic as both alignments

and i've lynched her for it and she flipped both alignments.

>.<

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond (Post 4652245)

Uh oh I'm being ToNe ReAd

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4652249)

I think MML is town again for calling Manti "lover boy"

Originally Posted by Syhto (Post 4652250)

Oh sorry, I also meant to say ypur actions. As in, you aren't really trying to solve people. In past human games you have played, you were always asking questions and solving people. Actions, or lack thereof, speak louder than tone. You are right.

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4651901)

Ah, I see.

Well then if people are open about it, then the wolves would have a much better time at micro managing whatever they got.

As in, they may not know who got what, but they can do whatever is necessary to prevent whatever that unknown factor is from actually happening.

I'm... neutral about it, leaning towards a no. I don't see how this would benefit us townies if we all knew who's doing what. I mean, at that point, might as well have everyone saying they requested something, yeah?

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4652202)

You're reading me wolf because I have nulls and people I'm just okay with (but not in my town circle)?

...Uh... sorry for not having a more definitive case for everyone on good ol' Day 1? If you're going to be like that, go to thesunfan or funnygurl who practically haven't listed anyone outside those they questioned.

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4652244)

It's mostly because he began questioning your motives when I thought your mindset was easy to grasp at that point in time.

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4652241)

rn not much, and i cant do much on a phone. im wary of charu ind and roundbox a tiny bit. rn im ok with my vote

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4652253)

idk why i thought i saw someone say you told roundbox off when i'm pretty sure you actually agreed there

Originally Posted by Syhto (Post 4652254)

Ya I usually am but I wanted to be more thoughtful than to just straight up call him a bitch.

Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee (Post 4652247)

IME mellon's activity has been sporadic as both alignments

and i've lynched her for it and she flipped both alignments.

>.<

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4652065)

actually it is true that a me who gives more of a shit would say BUHT WE SHOULD LYNCH WOLFES

i'm still astounded by a certain lack of self-awareness on display though

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4652249)

I think MML is town again for calling Manti "lover boy"

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4652261)

it's one of those times where i'm bugged by the discussion surrounding her bc at least two people have liked her this game and i'm ??? as to how

something something generating interactions too

Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee (Post 4652259)

can someone give me some new music to listen to while i hunt wilves?

i'm tired of all my same old crap

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4652258)

I never agreed to his proposal? Or what I thought was his proposal at least.

I felt neutral, but then later felt it was just flat-out no after thinking about it.

Kind of a dumbtell because I temporarily forgot about the wolf being able to guess how many, oops.

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4652256)

i think he is right that in one sense i was not sticking to my usual script, and that has helped me realize that i may have a theory/practice disparity

i might have said "let's lynch wolves, not inactives" any number of times last game, but i still ended up wanting to lynch inactives, of which freezin and tps were actually wolves

not holding that against sunfan

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4652068)

i like prec's way of identifying that dumbtell and being patient with mml about it

wolves would have had a sabotage available last night so they would know unless every wolf dropped the ball on actually reading the setup

i'm thinking over how much weight to give the dumbtell itself, like whether it makes him town, because even if he does know, unsure if it prevents him from pumping out bad logic claim bait stuff anyway

Originally Posted by Syhto (Post 4652242)

Sorry 4 e's neeee.

WV, FG, MXC. All starting to look kinda bad. To me. The whole thing with sunfan reading you right and you not being able to play well isn't cute as much as it is disappointing, fg, especially if you are a wolf.

WV's tone is way different to me than previous games wherein he was human, so that is a lot of meta. Also MXC's posting is sporadic, and she hasn't explained her activity in any way although it has been called into question. What's going on there? Is this typical?

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4652271)

?????????

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4652274)

wait who is mxc

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4652076)

If this is an attempt of having me say who I think is what, then alright.

Mellon is following the leader, but she does see what I see. I don't agree with her about the interactions that funny brought up, but she seems alright. Nothing too crazy and is actually suspicious of roundbox, if only a little. Reason enough alone I should say she's good.

I like where inDheart is coming from. I know his snap vote to Anti-Pearl is weary to some, but I didn't see it all that negative (hooray for biased views). He comes in and chimes in he doesn't like what Roundbox was dishing out and was weary. I understand where he's coming from since it came up without prompt and, further thinking of it, just seemed... ludicrous to think about? I don't know, I just like inDheart's mindflow, he's pretty town for me.

WV is a whatever, don't have anything important to discuss. Vote on MML is pretty lame since it came after a vote from MML. Nothing to make of it besides, I guess, why the vote? That about it.

DaBackpack was MIA, but now he's coming swinging his arms around. Good first impression, even started to tango with shyto which shyto responded accordingly, lol. Indifferent about him otherwise.

Precarious has made some pretty neat posts that go deeper within the logic of the game and discusses it openly with the players. Gut tells me this is pretty towny behavior in all fronts since he was the first to discuss about Roundbox's plan being negative in more detail.

Roundbox decided to talk about something which, may or may not be a big ol' ??? in the grand scheme of things. I didn't mind it because it got us thinking about the game, which is what I think Roundbox wanted to do in the first place. Null otherwise, got no feelings regarding him or his discussion.

DarkManticoreX2 is... just being whatever he usually does I guess? Kind of casts people going for inactives are not being detective enough and I'm just here shrugging. Mysterious

Anti-Pearl is __________________________

Syhto has been feisty with two different people and they all seem genuine as all heck with the way she worded arguing back at said two different people. I know, I should put her in town for those, but she really does feel irritated she's being questioned so, but that's just emotion tells which is always a 50/50 to me.

MML is throwing punches, but I think someone said he seems to be announcing every little thing he's doing just so he doesn't need to talk in the thread. I don't see it as that, that's just playing a bit too dirty for my liking, lol. Other things is him throwing a punch at Darkmanticore. I don't know why that pinged me as such, but he did, and then complimented him afterwards. I think it's because it felt genuine and not some random distancing thing, so I can see a T/W universe if it comes down to it. Waaaaaaaaay to early, but dems the apples.

Thesunfan questioned roundbox's thing harshly and has been pretty straightforward to today's shenanigans. Is one of the only to pick InDheart up and question him for his snapvote on Anti-Pearl. We shall see, he's pretty null for me right now actually and I don't know why.

Hakulyte basically didn't really do anything, lol oops, actually just null.

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4652262)

I think I actually like manti here calling his shots early, it makes me think he's taking his limited time wisely and packing it with info

dabackpack I read and I didn't really get anywhere, but I think his recent posts are shaping up to be pretty good

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4652279)

doesn't manti always do that

you probably didn't get anywhere because dbp feels like he has yet to gear up in ways. i'm looking at him like, "you have put the papers on the board. now, what does the board tell you"

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4652278)

this is what we in the industry call a "nothing burger"

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4652158)

sorry that I got your big ego in a knot

I was writing a post about you while you voted for me so I guess I'll finish that after this

to respond to your specific point highlighted here:
my argument is saying that he will be replaced, not that "he would have been replaced before"
I didn't really offer a comment on that, so I'm not sure where your problem comes from

not only that, but this is something that we won't figure out until postgame (host interaction with anti-pearl) so it's really not worth pursuing this line of thought for a lynch

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4652161)

just wanted to point out this progression of thoughts and how it makes me sad



first: you more or less agree with my point that we should keep the dialogue internal. neat!



second: as soon as someone speaks ill of my plan, you're plugging into their interpretation rather than your initial one



third: now that sunfan added on, you doubled down on following someone else's opinion. I don't see why you flip-flopped on agreeing with my plan of keeping the decisions internal and then suddenly calling it silly and beneath my level of play

(I will concede that you are talking about the padded post again, but this is not my concern with your progression)

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4652199)

sorry I was spending the last few hours making a major life decision

catching up now

Originally Posted by Syhto (Post 4652201)

MML is rather territorial, shall we say? I don't like it, although I am not sure if this is because of him being red or if it is his natural state. :)

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4652228)

how come you never seem to refresh and all your posts seem out dated...? Pearl has been replaced, I usually hit "preview post" within a few minutes of my post so I can make sure I'm up to date on all information. this just seems weird to me given the timing. kinda seems like a way to slide through without being held accountable for anything tbh

Originally Posted by Syhto (Post 4652242)

Sorry 4 e's neeee.

WV, FG, MXC. All starting to look kinda bad. To me. The whole thing with sunfan reading you right and you not being able to play well isn't cute as much as it is disappointing, fg, especially if you are a wolf.

WV's tone is way different to me than previous games wherein he was human, so that is a lot of meta. Also MXC's posting is sporadic, and she hasn't explained her activity in any way although it has been called into question. What's going on there? Is this typical?

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4652081)

Oh my god, did I forget funnygurl?

I did.

She's, uuuuuuuh... pretty indecisive for a Day 1 to be completely honest with y'all. I mean I get it, but it seems much more than usual and I don't know if that was just me.