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Syhto 08-17-2018 09:16 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Cel what is your "dumb" read it honestly is getting irritating hearing people talk about the logic and smart and dumb reads based on feeling or gut or what have you, just fucking say what you think???

I liked what DPB said about the logic of the game and how gut feelings are hard to explain, because that is how I feel this early on, I feel I primarily am based in the gut.

My gut says there has to be a wolf between Cel/TSF, and it isn't because they are opting to go for me, it seems more like they are using me as an target I feel. I AM BEING TARGETED

And I also agree ind uses a lot of phrases and wording that take the punch out of what he's saying, but I like his reads so

the sun fan 08-17-2018 09:16 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4642506)
did you not realize it?

would it help if i posted a sorting guide with my reads

incidentally this would explain you not really responding to the read, i didn't vote you because i was raising a novel point in the post and wanted to give you your 5 seconds to answer to it

ALRIGHT alright I'll go read that part again

DaBackpack 08-17-2018 09:16 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4642506)
did you not realize it?

would it help if i posted a sorting guide with my reads

incidentally this would explain you not really responding to the read, i didn't vote you because i was raising a novel point in the post and wanted to give you your 5 seconds to answer to it

fwiw I didn't pick up on it either

Xiz 08-17-2018 09:16 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4642501)
it makes a lot more sense when you change it to be about FE though, Xiz
SUNFAN JUST POSTED PORN HAHA ITS WORSE THEN THAT HORSECOCK I DID HAHAHAHAHA also hey cool you actually clicked this i wasnt expecting anyone to well done you get a cookie


is definitely Yoshl's FE Waifu

good choice yoshl

Xiz 08-17-2018 09:17 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4642507)
i think he's town bc no paranoia. his posts are extra non-spicy

oof okay gotcha

inDheart 08-17-2018 09:17 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4642475)
if you had to shoot two people right now who would they be

do i get to order them
if i get to reeval after the first i shoot sunfan and then decide whether i'm shooting you because i think you two are very anti-aligned
if i don't i probably shoot sunfan and freezin

Celirra 08-17-2018 09:19 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
would you rather be wrong for the right reasons? Or right for the wrong reasons?

the sun fan 08-17-2018 09:19 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4642377)
13. the sun fan - gimmick is a bit annoying; i touched a bit earlier on how it could be misdirection for reading into voting patterns if he's wolfing. also think usually by now he's able to do things with more confidence than he has, but his syhto read and the perhaps now-forming cel read could be examples of that - BUT the syhto read just doesn't feel good to me either. i think him trying to get by as a wolf on d0 usually involves setting up some kind of an insurmountable wall for his favorite mislynch, and syhto could be that here, and having thread support for the lynch is helping him out. saying she feels the same as the jtwg isn't great because the implication is for that read to change, she has to just feel different, and that's only really with a fresh example of her wolfing to contrast

i think the straightforward expectation would be someone rolling wolf twice in a row should feel at least a little different between the games - either not doing the same thing that just got you caught, or switching up what just worked so you're not falling into the same motions. i'm not seeing a depth of process here to suggest that same = bad, or specific things that are bad, or that where differences may exist, they don't matter

I mean, the scumread on Syhto is simple, and I mean you're more bringing up a point against meta in general; meta is hard to change tho. People can't just change on a dime.

I guess I don't know what you mean by a wall though.

DaBackpack 08-17-2018 09:20 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
I think indheart is probably a bad lynch for today

the sun fan 08-17-2018 09:20 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
thanks Xiz, it is free cookie Friday after all
I got raspberry cheesecake when I went to Subway earlier

DaBackpack 08-17-2018 09:21 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4642518)
thanks Xiz, it is free cookie Friday after all
I got raspberry cheesecake when I went to Subway earlier

wait what?????????????????

Xiz 08-17-2018 09:21 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
oh shit sunfan found the cookie!! a+

DaBackpack 08-17-2018 09:21 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
I didn't get offered a free cookie from subway today that's bullshit

inDheart 08-17-2018 09:21 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4642511)
fwiw I didn't pick up on it either

duly noted
i can use colors or tiers or sth going forward, but at least now you know for now

Celirra 08-17-2018 09:22 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Syhto (Post 4642509)
Cel what is your "dumb" read it honestly is getting irritating hearing people talk about the logic and smart and dumb reads based on feeling or gut or what have you, just fucking say what you think???

I liked what DPB said about the logic of the game and how gut feelings are hard to explain, because that is how I feel this early on, I feel I primarily am based in the gut.

My gut says there has to be a wolf between Cel/TSF, and it isn't because they are opting to go for me, it seems more like they are using me as an target I feel. I AM BEING TARGETED

And I also agree ind uses a lot of phrases and wording that take the punch out of what he's saying, but I like his reads so

The dumb reason was because he said "trust me" and he said that twice as town to me when i went for him

the sun fan 08-17-2018 09:22 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
really inD?
i mean yeah I am weird but I'm a weirdo

this is like...
probably not too different from normal really

idk this bothers me more than it should you mentioned me getting scumread for silly reasons on d0 in the deadchat of the turboand I mean your reason isn't bad but I do feel like its been a thing lately

whatever I'll lay off that I am definitely selfish WHY CAN'T YOU SEE ME FOR WHO I AM

the sun fan 08-17-2018 09:22 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
I;m out to dinner I will be phoneposting

DaBackpack 08-17-2018 09:22 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4642522)
duly noted
i can use colors or tiers or sth going forward, but at least now you know for now

not to dwell on this but it's fine

I think we get the picture now

Syhto 08-17-2018 09:25 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Celirra (Post 4642523)
The dumb reason was because he said "trust me" and he said that twice as town to me when i went for him

oh, see, ok

inDheart 08-17-2018 09:25 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4642516)
I mean, the scumread on Syhto is simple, and I mean you're more bringing up a point against meta in general; meta is hard to change tho. People can't just change on a dime.

I guess I don't know what you mean by a wall though.

maybe we need to talk about what meta notes this is hitting then

when you say "she feels the same" that just doesn't sell it. i want specifics

the wall thing is you set up a read in a way that can't really be challenged, and that gives you license to not reeval ever and shrug and push that lynch through. thinking of when you lynched charu in the more recent time travel game, or dfr in the more distant one


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