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Charu 02-21-2016 10:22 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
People on helphelp11 are being bah-bah-baddie

Charu 02-21-2016 10:23 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
helphelp, what do you feel about dem votes on you?

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:24 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
what's the case on DFR?

reuben_tate 02-21-2016 10:25 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Sorry guys, I had meant to wake up earlier but ended up accidentally sleeping in a bit and I have something that I'm doing today and it's taking a lot longer than I was expecting. I won't be finished by EOD and will be gone after this post.

Out of the two main wagons at the moment, I would go after helphelp11. I have a .txt file with my analysis post I was working on but unfortunately I'm away from my computer but there are some quotes from helphelp11 that struck me as really odd.

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:27 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
yeah I don't really have a direction atm

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:27 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4409354)
People on helphelp11 are being bah-bah-baddie

are you townreading him because of his reads list?

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:30 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by botchi246 (Post 4408868)
Im not being scared into a xel lynch. Although i do believe one of them is scum now. Need more time and posts to work with though so i can solidify a read

botchi needs to follow up on this

reuben_tate 02-21-2016 10:31 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
From early before, Zenith said something something regarding dbp not having a "killer vibe" and I didn't like that post. It just struck me odd that Zenith would quickly townread someone when that was dbp's first few series of posts most of which had no content.

Charu 02-21-2016 10:31 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4409357)
what's the case on DFR?

Avoiding conversation, a reads list that didn't add anything to the pot, doesn't appear to engage in others.

I could say the same thing to about two other people, but the key difference is that he's been in the thread numerous times.

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:32 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reuben_tate (Post 4409362)
From early before, Zenith said something something regarding dbp not having a "killer vibe" and I didn't like that post. It just struck me odd that Zenith would quickly townread someone when that was dbp's first few series of posts most of which had no content.

how do you interpret that post? is he covering for me or is he pocketing me?

Charu 02-21-2016 10:32 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4409360)
are you townreading him because of his reads list?

Sort of, I'm also (attempting) to be in his mind. You have to be pretty narrow and going for the super obvious stuff, but it's the only mindset I can think of that makes sense for his posting style.

reuben_tate 02-21-2016 10:33 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I would like to see more from my friend sinstrosuede as well. She's a new player so hopefully she can take the time to digest the thread over the night (with night talk off) and be prepared to give us more to work with when d1rolls around.

Charu 02-21-2016 10:34 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Why not now?

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:34 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4409365)
Sort of, I'm also (attempting) to be in his mind. You have to be pretty narrow and going for the super obvious stuff, but it's the only mindset I can think of that makes sense for his posting style.

I'm null on him, a little weirded out that some of his town reads are situated on the validity of points, and his read on me/v is a little weird, in that it focuses on us "knowing our stuff"

but I can't place that as wolfy per se

reuben_tate 02-21-2016 10:35 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4409364)
how do you interpret that post? is he covering for me or is he pocketing me?

Felt like the former but if that's the case, that's some pretty shitty cover, idk.

Charu 02-21-2016 10:35 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Ben... that single post just made me eject you from my town pool.

Just letting you know.

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:35 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reuben_tate (Post 4409366)
I would like to see more from my friend sinstrosuede as well. She's a new player so hopefully she can take the time to digest the thread over the night (with night talk off) and be prepared to give us more to work with when d1rolls around.

this... is weird

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:36 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
however I don't think wolf/wolf coaching would happen like that, they do have wolfchat after all

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:36 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
well, unless it was unconscious and not thought-out

reuben_tate 02-21-2016 10:37 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I don't know if it was made clear in the beginning of the thread. Sinstrosuede is a irl friend playing online twg for the first time. I'm trying to make sure she has a good experience.

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:38 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reuben_tate (Post 4409375)
I don't know if it was made clear in the beginning of the thread. Sinstrosuede is a irl friend playing online twg for the first time. I'm trying to make sure she has a good experience.

oh!! gotcha, that makes sense

Charu 02-21-2016 10:38 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
No, that was not made clear.

But if you're saying she should "digest" the information at night. Why didn't she do so earlier when we can still talk?

Charu 02-21-2016 10:39 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
And why are you assuming she'll be alive the next day?

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:39 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
nobody has been speaking out against a dfr lynch which worries me

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:40 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4409378)
And why are you assuming she'll be alive the next day?

to be fair, that's a pretty natural assumption atm

Charu 02-21-2016 10:40 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4409379)
nobody has been speaking out against a dfr lynch which worries me

Me too

helphelp11 02-21-2016 10:40 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I'm guessing all of them stem from my vote and quick retraction of SKG. I would like that analyisis from reuben on me so I can respond to it.

From what I've gathered this day (although I may be wrong):
SKG's vote is from me voting him in retaliation.
Xiz's vote is for pressure. ("Twist And Shout" or something along those lines.)
Sin's vote is from his reads (alhough maybe his vote on me comes from focusing on the big event this day, from what I've interpreted?)
Reuben's vote is for the wagon, and the analysis he has.
dbp's vote comes from his logic and what he got from what I said above.

reuben_tate 02-21-2016 10:41 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4409377)
No, that was not made clear.

But if you're saying she should "digest" the information at night. Why didn't she do so earlier when we can still talk?

She should try during the day and so should everyone else. But I think that everyone should also take the time during the night, especially with night talk on, to go back and reflect on the past day phase or catch up if needed.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4409378)
And why are you assuming she'll be alive the next day?

Statistics

Charu 02-21-2016 10:41 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4409380)
to be fair, that's a pretty natural assumption atm

I suppose, but you can never be sure about this.

I'm going to pick at this for the rest of this phase. Ben's better than that!!!

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:42 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reuben_tate (Post 4409358)
Sorry guys, I had meant to wake up earlier but ended up accidentally sleeping in a bit and I have something that I'm doing today and it's taking a lot longer than I was expecting. I won't be finished by EOD and will be gone after this post.

Out of the two main wagons at the moment, I would go after helphelp11. I have a .txt file with my analysis post I was working on but unfortunately I'm away from my computer but there are some quotes from helphelp11 that struck me as really odd.

alright can you summarize your opinions on dfr and helphelp from what you remember?

Charu 02-21-2016 10:42 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by helphelp11 (Post 4409382)
I'm guessing all of them stem from my vote and quick retraction of SKG. I would like that analyisis from reuben on me so I can respond to it.

From what I've gathered this day (although I may be wrong):
SKG's vote is from me voting him in retaliation.
Xiz's vote is for pressure. ("Twist And Shout" or something along those lines.)
Sin's vote is from his reads (alhough maybe his vote on me comes from focusing on the big event this day, from what I've interpreted?)
Reuben's vote is for the wagon, and the analysis he has.
dbp's vote comes from his logic and what he got from what I said above.

Okay, but how do YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS

Bro, you're about to get lynched in 18 minutes. Say shit

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:43 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
forgot my vote was on him unvote

Charu 02-21-2016 10:44 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reuben_tate (Post 4409383)
Statistics

Nice excuse.

Does this statistics have to do with her being new, and that she hasn't posted a lot in the thread?

How's this for statistics, you mentioning her giving us info the next day now makes her a god damn target.

How's THAT for statistics?

helphelp11 02-21-2016 10:45 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I feel like that my one and only attempt on pressure this day via vote I screwed up, and thus I am near-lynch. Thus, I am panicking a bit inside.

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:45 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I don't like either of these wagons

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:46 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4409388)
Nice excuse.

Does this statistics have to do with her being new, and that she hasn't posted a lot in the thread?

How's this for statistics, you mentioning her giving us info the next day now makes her a god damn target.

How's THAT for statistics?

can we focus on the lynch please

Charu 02-21-2016 10:46 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by helphelp11 (Post 4409389)
I feel like that my one and only attempt on pressure this day via vote I screwed up, and thus I am near-lynch. Thus, I am panicking a bit inside.

Then do something!

reuben_tate 02-21-2016 10:46 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
By info I just mean I want to hear more content from her. I'm hypocritical in bringing this up, but she does hasb the lowest post count.

Charu 02-21-2016 10:47 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4409391)
can we focus on the lynch please

Nah

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:47 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
tiloco what are you thinking

helphelp11 02-21-2016 10:47 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
dbp, what are your thoughts on dfr and his wagon?

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:48 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by helphelp11 (Post 4409396)
dbp, what are your thoughts on dfr and his wagon?

I'm not convinced, esp. that he mentioned that he was sick and in bed all day

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:48 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
he seems like an easy target

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:48 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I'm suspicious of people just watching, that makes it feel like we're at T vs T here

helphelp11 02-21-2016 10:49 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
dfr, what do you think about your own wagon?

Charu 02-21-2016 10:49 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Lisewise to helphelp

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:49 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
dfr tiloco xel zenith say something

danceflashrevo 02-21-2016 10:50 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Hey worked on more reads stuff, still sick, still not thinking straight. I almost went to bed and then remembered this.

XelNya - Null. The only thing that I can find that's indicative of alignment would be the the new player conversation, but even then I think that that could've happened regardless of the game even happening so I don't trust anything from that.

Xiz - Null, he's been a lot more quiet than I anticipated.

Haku - Town. I think he's tried to solve the game to the best of his ability, he was really enthusiastic, and I don't think such enthusiasm would be seen as a wolf.

Botchi - Slight town for now. Essentially white noise until his reads list which is four town leans. The only thing else about reads was when he said tiloco after being asked his top lynch. I'm not really sure whether this was a joke or not. Tone-wise I feel like it's authentic AJ w/o any sort of fabrication, however I think he'll be able to slip UTR very easily, so I'm weary of giving the town read.

Updated read on v: He's pretty controversial with his Xel read basically calling out DBP and Xiz with it, I don't think he would be like that as a wolf. Plus he's been pretty emotional (?) with his persuasion tactics. I think that there would be more of a filter if he was a wolf especially in his quick "<name> is <alignment>" reads.

ben - Null. I always have a tough time reading you for some reason.

Charu - Town probably, he's interacted with everyone in a way that I imagine town charu would

Zenith - Nothing notable I've seen from you either.

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:50 PM

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I think Zenith is a wolf

Charu 02-21-2016 10:51 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Votes plz

helphelp11 02-21-2016 10:51 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Well, the fact that my one screw-up has a chance of getting me lynched seems unfair.

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:51 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
dfr is town based on V mindmeld

Charu 02-21-2016 10:51 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
unvote

helphelp11 02-21-2016 10:51 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Especially against someone who is playing a character and basically only got a reaction out of me.

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:52 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
zenith

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:52 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
zenith, reads, now

Charu 02-21-2016 10:52 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by helphelp11 (Post 4409411)
Especially against someone who is playing a character and basically only got a reaction out of me.

Are you referring to me or SKG?

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:52 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
this is a clusterfuck

thesunfan 02-21-2016 10:52 PM

Vote Count
 
Votes from post 4 to post 938
Night in 0:08:13

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:00 good :01 bad

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:52 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
helphelp and dfr are both bad lynches atm

danceflashrevo 02-21-2016 10:53 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I kinda forced myself to make a conclusion on the last three reads, I'll definitely go back and look harder for them. I don't have the time and the energy to rush iso rn.

helphelp to answer your question I'm upset that there's a wagon on me without an actual accusation. Like... the thing that started it was me saying PR for public relations but people interpreted as power role which is understandable but it standing for power role hadn't even crossed my mind. If you don't believe me about that in my defense of it it's very clear that I was talking about public relations. I don't like the fact that haku just said "i iso'd him i see what you mean" and then put a vote on me, it's like there's some underground discussion on why i'm scum that hasn't been surfaced.

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:53 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
helphelp is fucked, 3 of his votes are AFK

helphelp11 02-21-2016 10:53 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
SKG.

helphelp11 02-21-2016 10:53 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Then what the flux capacitor do I do!?

reuben_tate 02-21-2016 10:53 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Zenith

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:54 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo (Post 4409418)
I kinda forced myself to make a conclusion on the last three reads, I'll definitely go back and look harder for them. I don't have the time and the energy to rush iso rn.

helphelp to answer your question I'm upset that there's a wagon on me without an actual accusation. Like... the thing that started it was me saying PR for public relations but people interpreted as power role which is understandable but it standing for power role hadn't even crossed my mind. If you don't believe me about that in my defense of it it's very clear that I was talking about public relations. I don't like the fact that haku just said "i iso'd him i see what you mean" and then put a vote on me, it's like there's some underground discussion on why i'm scum that hasn't been surfaced.

Haku could be wolf too, was thinking that, his enthusiasm aside

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:54 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Zenith are you fuckign there

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:54 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
zenith say something if you are there you might die

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:55 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I think ur wolfy and I don't like either of these other lynches

helphelp11 02-21-2016 10:55 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Do you want to make another wagon against someone?

reuben_tate 02-21-2016 10:55 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4409384)
I suppose, but you can never be sure about this.

I would think that adding obvious qualifiers such as "unless she dies in the night" would be even more suspicious.

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:55 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
you totally haven't done scumhunting this phase and I expect better from you

Charu 02-21-2016 10:55 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4409423)
Haku could be wolf too, was thinking that, his enthusiasm aside

I don't think so, at least not right now.

My little spiel with Haku was me gauging him to see what he was doing.

He's town here, I believe that in my truest of guts.

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:55 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by helphelp11 (Post 4409427)
Do you want to make another wagon against someone?

yes but I don't know who

danceflashrevo 02-21-2016 10:56 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
can someone tell me why we're lynching zenith? he's been kinda absent compared to other zenith play regardless of alignment, and nothing he's done has stuck out to me. I just see random pressure votes accruing.

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:56 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
ugh unvote starting a new wagon here helps absolutely nobody if we can't actually have a discourse on it

Charu 02-21-2016 10:56 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
And considering lynching this time around really does give no info...

thesunfan 02-21-2016 10:56 PM

Vote Count
 
Votes from post 4 to post 957
Night in 0:04:05

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:00 good :01 bad

DaBackpack 02-21-2016 10:57 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo (Post 4409432)
can someone tell me why we're lynching zenith? he's been kinda absent compared to other zenith play regardless of alignment, and nothing he's done has stuck out to me. I just see random pressure votes accruing.

he's my current only scumread and both of the wagons are bad

helphelp11 02-21-2016 10:57 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Maybe SKG?

Also, yes I realize I'm revoting but what other choice do I have?


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