TWG 199: The Reaper's Game -Final Remix- POST GAME
TWG 199: THE REAPER'S GAME -Final Remix- Phases are: 48/24 Will hit 24/24 after Night 3. Phases will start and end at 10 PM server time. 8 PM PST / 11 PM EST Day start OotC: off Night-talking: off Wolf chat: always on Phantoms: off No Lynch: off Flips: on KITB: on 13 Player setup: 8x Player (Vanilla Town) 1x 3x-Bulletproof 1x JOAT (1x each of Seer, Doc, Vig) 2x Reaper (Vanilla Wolf) 1x Game Master (Roleblocker) Game will be themed around The World Ends With You because that game is amazing and y'all need to play it. DRAMATIS PERSONAE 1.) mellon_collie (she/her) [WON at Endgame] 2.) flashflash_account (he/him) [WON at Endgame] 3.) roundbox (he/him) [ERASED by Reapers NIGHT 2] 4.) the sun fan (he/him) [WON at Endgame] 5.) Cold Kitten (she/her) FreezinIce (he/him) [ERASED by Players DAY 2] 6.) Shadow_God_10 (he/him) (Game Master) [CONCEDED] 7.) tn5421 (he/him) [WON at Endgame] 8.) Hakulyte (he/they) [CONCEDED] 9.) Vendetta21 (he/him) SubaruPoptart (he/him) [WON at Endgame] 10.) Funnygurl555 (she/her) [ERASED by Players DAY 1] 11.) bugkid666 (they/them) [ERASED by Players DAY 3] 12.) choof (he/him) [ERASED by Reapers NIGHT 1] 13.) Charu (he/him) [ERASED by Reapers NIGHT 3] ---------------------- R1.) FreezinIce R2.) SubaruPoptart |
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haku had me all early game tbh
if you had shadowgod claim instead I think you can go pretty far I do think fake claiming there was right and I think it was a well enough made claim but sunfan was pretty right about why raeko is always real etc |
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Won't lie, I saw that going a lot differently. I think if Haku doesn't fake there, Reapers have a really good chance, but misinterpreting how the BP works I think borked that up.
If run again, I'll also not allow stacking blocking/killing on the same target. It made things pretty broken once they (thought they) found the PR. MVP will come later, although there were some good performances all around. |
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Oh, because I don't care, you all need to see this:
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to all of you that said they thought lewdy was being normal even after I pointed out his weird posting....... imma throw hands.
jk jk. this was a fun game fr |
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Not gonna lie Haku, you'll see this in dead chat, but fake claiming the BP was definitely not the wisest.
If you didn't do that, I'm pretty sure you could've went to F3 easily with my reads I gave. |
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What the hell happened wait
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I only claimed because I was vanilla wolf, but yeah. |
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honestly though I feel a lot better about that game than the previous ones I've played. I felt like I was able to do a lot more in that one and understand what's going on a lot better.
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fakeclaiming was very unnecessary, I think
sometimes where it can be good, but I think lewdy has to be the one doing it (still don't think there's much payoff tbh) you're not putting the team in a much better position even if you do get raeko killed, haku |
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my reads were pretty nice
I also don't know the utility of the roleblocker in this setup it's almost always optimal to block your kill to prevent vigi shots from going through (which happened this game). you're probably never going to kill the top town while joat hunting, and hitting the doc'd target is just a one night scare if you have the foresight to block the joat's doctor action and kill the doctored target, then just kill the damn joat |
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setup is a bit townsided but like who cares about balance on FFR in 2021 am I right?
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oh wow I got joatread for defending sunfan?
interesting |
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oh wow that's over then i guess
gg all I think I played ok but my biggest regret is voting for bugkid. Idk why I let myself be influenced like that, I wasn't really into that vote but did it anyway. dumb dumb dumb also haku how dare you :@ |
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I didn't want to exhaust myself more than needed and shadow god wasn't too enthusiastic about soloing for the win so, we just ended things here. |
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dont kill me n1 next time pls
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I said this in deadchat but i didn't really give the game the time it deserved until it was too late and it showed.
I'll do better next time. Gg town |
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blub
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I was pretty hard set on my Haku townread, the counterclaim stuff was about the only way it could have changed.
haku claims, mellon_collie counterclaims, mellon_collie flips green, haku suddenly also gets the flip. the way the claim was done was just so beneficial to town that i didn't conceive that haku was actually scumming it up |
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it was pretty likely haku dies first there too
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haku flipping red basically absolved mellon_collie of all wrongdoing. |
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or would have, if it came to that
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Other wolf then free to believe the real bp for fake brownie points which we saw with shadowgod, while the fake wolf can clog the thread up with bunch of crap to make it harder for people to see what's actually going on rather than building concrete case on mellon, which she saw and brought up. Seeing how reluctant people were to believe mellon makes me doubt that she would've ended up being believed by majority so I'm curious how far shadow would've been able to go afterward with only sunfan from what I really saw saying they'd vote him after thunderdome was cleared up. |
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i forgot about the game. looks like v was wrapped up in stuff too so i don't feel as bad about it. i don't plan on playing twg anytime soon fwiw
it was cool seeing a newbie (to the site at least) playing so i hope you come back tn |
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I think Shadow is really bad at narrative construction, and sometimes the picks at easier targets comes off a bit bad imho.
I have no other commentary~ |
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not for another week at least
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you would be surprised and astonished at the terrible terrible things that happen on mafiascum dot net |
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ffa was going to vote haku, dunno if shadow would've ended up doing so as well but there were at least three between sunfan, ffa and obviously raeko I kind of wish I knew how it would've ended up playing out |
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Also thought the extension was funny considering nobody really used it
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I forget the name of the axiom, but when I played my champs game last season, the issue of fake claiming came up because I was INSTA'D as the JOAT in my game due to some fakeclaiming shenanigans. the axiom goes that in fakeclaiming situations, the first claims in a thread are more likely to be wolves
there's a huge rhetorical advantage you get by claiming first: it frames the current game state around your proposition and players start solving from there this gives the most advantage to the wolves considering they benefit the most from such a paradigm shift. if they claim first, it gives them that framing advantage. any delay in response just gives the thread time to start solving from the "solved" point of view with the new claim. we saw this happen this game with Haku getting advantage over raeko at first. obviously this is just one of those informal axioms like the Manti rule, so take it with a grain of salt |
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The axiom is interesting. I think it would be much more likely from a proactive team to be aware of and make use of the framing advantage. I think a newer or more risk adverse team could prefer to wait to find out who the special role is to better gauge how trusted the person is first.
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The problem is that boldly coming out with a claim as wolf is usually very risky.
The closer to LYLO it happens, the more likely you are to be able to get away with it. |
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when game
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Send game(s).
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send games? I thought 200 would be a super event
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I have something really, really special for the 200th game
its ambitious, and I think it will expand the idea of what a mafia game can be in a way that, truly, I can make all the players happy |
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Oh? Well that sounds intriguing!
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I will play that!
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Im hyped for it
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greg x3
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200 will most likely be the last game I play for a long time, in b4 i die n0
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