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Makilaz 10-20-2020 04:11 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4747641)
I mean it's not like we're out here roasting the shit out of each other.

sure, and folks who've been here a while and know the crowd understand that. but from someone on the outside looking in it could very much look like actual vitriol, especially during particularly spirited arguments

i'm not necessarily trying to say we need to be 100% polite to each other in every single action, but it definitely could stand to be toned down a bit at the very least

Shadow_God_10 10-20-2020 04:14 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
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Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4747621)
so it's ok for shadowgod to make those kinds of posts but not mml

why?

I'm fine with being called out for anything I say that might come across as "toxic" or "mean". I do tend to hurl out light jabs at people when I get annoyed with them, but I'm not going for that Mike Tyson knock out punch if you get what I'm saying

the sun fan 10-20-2020 04:36 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
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Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4747602)
-Adam being force replaced as a result. Most people agreed his posts were disgusting (pretty sure they were re: someone's mental health, and therefore crossed the line being too personal
-rzr being super banned not only for cheating, but lying, making excuses, and insulting his way through the situation. The super ban came from the discussion afterwards for posts he directed towards choof which were personal and disgusting in nature.

adam requested replacement, I did not force replace him, just for the record

the sun fan 10-20-2020 04:41 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
I think that lewdy's posts there, even though they're obviously not seriously meant, would violate what I would want to move forward with
I know the intent behind words matters as well, but that can't undermine the impact of the typed words themselves

the sun fan 10-20-2020 04:43 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
i'm not sure what the best method for choosing the two new moderators would be tbh
I know two people (maybe more) in fg and makilaz have volunteered and maybe its as simple as that
force has been mentioned, not sure if he's said he'll do it himself
star has been mentioned as well
apologies if I've missed anyone

Makilaz 10-20-2020 04:48 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4747653)
I know the intent behind words matters as well, but that can't undermine the impact of the typed words themselves

intent matters for sure but it can sometimes be really difficult to determine whether it was genuine (even in the moment and regretted after the fact) or just playful banter. this game gets really heated and that's fine, but it shouldn't be an excuse for being at each others' throats

i've tended to strive towards "be excellent to each other" sort of conduct in any community i've had a position of authority in and i'd like to see that happen here too

there's also the potential for one side to mean it to be playful and non-serious and the other side sees it in the moment as genuine and takes it the wrong way. it's really fucking difficult for tone and subtlety to be conveyed in text form and misunderstandings are common. if you're about to type something that could easily be misconstrued as being more nasty than you want it to be, maybe tone it down first

eta: i'm ready and willing to back up my mod/admin credentials if needed, but i'd understand if someone else got the gig over me

eta2: when i initially came back from my long-ass hiatus i was rather intimidated at the state of the game, ngl. game threads were so much longer and more active than i was used to and just at a glance players seemed a bit meaner and inclined to snipe at one another. i powered through this and realized it was not what it seems, but coming from a standpoint of 'we need fresh blood to keep this place alive' i'm in favor of doing as much as possible to remove friction from someone new coming aboard and playing. this very much includes toning down the jabs, even playful ones. it's too easy to take that as serious if you're not already steeped in twg culture

Gradiant 10-20-2020 04:56 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4747654)
i'm not sure what the best method for choosing the two new moderators would be tbh

Don't really think the twg scene is active enough to warrant having more than the 3 mods that there already are.

j-rodd123 10-20-2020 05:31 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
A lot of mod sections appear to be outdated at a quick glance. I mean it says the health and fitness forum has 3 mods (do any of those 3 even post at all anymore btw) and that forum gets like one new post a month. Don’t think gatekeeping adding new mods means anything, especially when I think sunfan is the only one of the 3 current mods of TWG who is active

Funnygurl555 10-20-2020 06:04 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
makilaz seems like a g

T-Force 10-20-2020 07:18 PM

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I'd be down to do it if asked / if the community is cool with me being a part of it.

YoshL 10-20-2020 07:39 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
already a gary's mod tho :^)

XelNya 10-20-2020 08:02 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4747653)
I think that lewdy's posts there, even though they're obviously not seriously meant, would violate what I would want to move forward with
I know the intent behind words matters as well, but that can't undermine the impact of the typed words themselves

You're fucking kidding right?

Is everyone here five? Two? How old is everyone? Maybe fresh out?

That's what it feels like.

How can no one read those posts and understand the amount of intentionally blowing it out of proportion for effect those posts are? It's not toxic, it's hyperbole.

I thought reading between the lines was a game mechanic, apparently everyone here is shockingly shit at it.

An actual pity imho.

Makilaz 10-20-2020 08:05 PM

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that post is exactly the sort of thing we need less of, thank you for being an example of how not to behave

Shadow_God_10 10-20-2020 08:09 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4747653)
I think that lewdy's posts there, even though they're obviously not seriously meant, would violate what I would want to move forward with

Going forward, I shall post Rias Gremory pole dancing every time I get mildly upset in future games as a means to reflect upon my actions

Funnygurl555 10-20-2020 08:49 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
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Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4747670)
You're fucking kidding right?

Is everyone here five? Two? How old is everyone? Maybe fresh out?

That's what it feels like.

How can no one read those posts and understand the amount of intentionally blowing it out of proportion for effect those posts are? It's not toxic, it's hyperbole.

I thought reading between the lines was a game mechanic, apparently everyone here is shockingly shit at it.

An actual pity imho.

i think we know shadow's intent but it's still much, at least in my opinion. not even everyone here thinks it's too much though so you don't gotta bash everyone like that

but most of the posts were directed at subaru who first of all is newer and second is also younger than most of us

roundbox 10-20-2020 09:06 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4747651)
adam requested replacement, I did not force replace him, just for the record

Fair enough. Wasn't meaning to misrepresent anything in my post.
He was still agreed upon as being too much by the community.

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4747653)
I think that lewdy's posts there, even though they're obviously not seriously meant, would violate what I would want to move forward with
I know the intent behind words matters as well, but that can't undermine the impact of the typed words themselves

Can you tell us what you mean by "move forward with"? It's still a bit vague.

YoshL 10-20-2020 09:43 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
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Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4747670)
You're fucking kidding right?

Is everyone here five? Two? How old is everyone? Maybe fresh out?

That's what it feels like.

How can no one read those posts and understand the amount of intentionally blowing it out of proportion for effect those posts are? It's not toxic, it's hyperbole.

I thought reading between the lines was a game mechanic, apparently everyone here is shockingly shit at it.

An actual pity imho.

the real pity is that you're saying stuff like this outside of a twg thread.

you may still be living in the internet age of toxicity and cynicism being king, but there's something nice about being able to show people respect and kindness.

I think after collecting my thoughts, the clearest thing that I can say is - why does your TWG play and identity need to be based off of insulting and offending people, in a game of problem solving

T-Force 10-20-2020 10:49 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
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Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4747670)
You're fucking kidding right?

Is everyone here five? Two? How old is everyone? Maybe fresh out?

That's what it feels like.

How can no one read those posts and understand the amount of intentionally blowing it out of proportion for effect those posts are? It's not toxic, it's hyperbole.

I thought reading between the lines was a game mechanic, apparently everyone here is shockingly shit at it.

An actual pity imho.

You know what his tone is like.
I know what his tone is like.
Raeko, roundbox, sunfan, etc. They all know what his tone is like.

Now what about those who don't. Those who are newer to the game, or to the community. Are they going to see his posts and think, "hmm, I bet you he's saying this with a chuckle, a smile, and with a slight sense of sarcasm."
Probably not. And, whether you like it or not, that's what's going to keep this community alive.

Serious talk. How hard is it to actually be like, somewhat genuine and just -say- things without the need to throw a ton of swearing or personal jabs into it. You may not think we need to, but maybe it's something bigger than that.

T-Force 10-20-2020 10:50 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
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Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4747677)
the real pity is that you're saying stuff like this outside of a twg thread.

you may still be living in the internet age of toxicity and cynicism being king, but there's something nice about being able to show people respect and kindness.

I think after collecting my thoughts, the clearest thing that I can say is - why does your TWG play and identity need to be based off of insulting and offending people, in a game of problem solving

With all due respect YoshL, you are prime example number 1 of this mindset. Your toxicity before was... yikes.
Now? Very pleasant, would play with again, and it's this exact mindset that I think contributed to that for you.

mellonxcollie 10-20-2020 10:54 PM

Re: On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)
 
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Originally Posted by T-Force (Post 4747685)
How hard is it to actually be like, somewhat genuine and just -say- things without the need to throw a ton of swearing or personal jabs into it. You may not think we need to, but maybe it's something bigger than that.

You're that type of guy though, who is genuine and doesn't throw jabs. Not everyone has that personality. Some people express themselves differently, more forcefully, with more "jabs" than you would throw. Some people have that fiery personality type. and that's not wrong it's just different


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