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inDheart 08-28-2018 01:36 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
if i'm a wolf and our team thinks an sk is in the game and fake claiming would help us out, i would have to be the wolf PR right now and have not claimed, because it's 2 goons that have flipped

that makes no sense and is why i'm leaning toward the tps world being the one. that wolf flipping at any point brings down the house, claim-wise. if tps is a wolf then they already think there's no SK and can make 2 claims like that, while hiding him in one of them

inDheart 08-28-2018 01:44 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
cel i'm not crazy right

like wolves wouldn't want to accidentally lock the setup, so they have the Special Wolf claim once they're at a high degree of confidence of no SK

also yeah sunfan was right, should have always made tps hide in the POE bc that'd be further self-outing, he just instantly becomes lock scum to the 2 he doesn't hide behind

inDheart 08-28-2018 01:44 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
itt i lose my mind but might actually have a handle on what's happening this time

the real twgood end starts here

inDheart 08-28-2018 01:51 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
honestly, if i believe hard enough in the tps world, it also means i shouldn't care if i get lynched today because funny and blind should be able to make the same turnaround and lynch him tomorrow, but it's correct to resolve within the lock scum created by his claim + my POV first

maybe someone will actually read my fucking posts! that'd be a time and a half. i didn't even make as many as "usual" this game, though maybe some longer ones

Celirra 08-28-2018 01:56 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
I am not going to explain why until 2 mins left in the phase but the ideal play right now is to lynch the most likely to be town of the 3 unconfirmed alive right now in the world that tps is legit

Cool eh?

inDheart 08-28-2018 01:57 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Celirra (Post 4646592)
I am not going to explain why until 2 mins left in the phase but the ideal play right now is to lynch the most likely to be town of the 3 unconfirmed alive right now in the world that tps is legit

Cool eh?

can i tell you why we could avert that

think about numbers if tps is real and no-hides

Celirra 08-28-2018 01:59 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
In the world where tps is a wolf it is also sufficient in order to lock a victory actually

Celirra 08-28-2018 01:59 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Tps should not hide in the scenario I described btw
We still win

inDheart 08-28-2018 02:01 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Celirra (Post 4646594)
In the world where tps is a wolf it is also sufficient in order to lock a victory actually

well yeah

in that world lynching any of us 3 sends the game to f3

in the other world, lynching correctly removes a nk

Celirra 08-28-2018 02:04 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Lynching incorrectly actually forces the two factions to kill each other otherwise they have 0 chance to win

Celirra 08-28-2018 02:05 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
If there is an sk, they should claim so we dont accidentally lynch them

Funnygurl555 08-28-2018 02:06 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
im so confused

inDheart 08-28-2018 02:07 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
this isn't gonna feel like a deserved town victory even if we win tbh

tps wolf means wolves shot themselves in the foot to create the appearance of something deep happening only to get locked out later

an SK being in the game means that person sat on their hands way too damn long to get stuck in the POE like this, and also wolves did some amount of busing when it may not have been necessary

Funnygurl555 08-28-2018 02:07 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
most likely to be town out of me blind and ind right?

inDheart 08-28-2018 02:08 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Celirra (Post 4646599)
Lynching incorrectly actually forces the two factions to kill each other otherwise they have 0 chance to win

why even leave one of the factions alive?

Funnygurl555 08-28-2018 02:08 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
why would it ever be advantageous to kill your wolf partner

inDheart 08-28-2018 02:08 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
i think i'm beginning to see why town loses games

Celirra 08-28-2018 02:10 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
If they kill each other then town cant be dumb and mislynch in f3
Town always loses in f3 because I'm bad

inDheart 08-28-2018 02:10 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4646605)
why would it ever be advantageous to kill your wolf partner

it makes us go OOOO SPOOKY THERE MUST BE OTHER KILL POWER for a while and legitimizes tps' claim, because there would be a setup letter we didn't know about

but also stops us from wondering why tps and freezin never die, which would be the issue if they just keep living after claiming

inDheart 08-28-2018 02:15 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Celirra (Post 4646607)
If they kill each other then town cant be dumb and mislynch in f3
Town always loses in f3 because I'm bad

i wouldn't worry about that

the answer this time should legit just be mechanics, especially if we lynch correctly between the 3 of us

i think your scenario makes us lose more of the time than the potential 2 scum factions win, because of the draw scenarios that have been outlined

it's reliant on them playing a prisoners' dilemma, which has worked in things like boats before, but i'd rather not play to that if possible

there's a good chance you aren't personally in the f3 as well, given you're the clear, unless you think you'd be allowed in specifically to screw it up


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