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R.E. Aryxi 09-28-2016 12:56 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Idk, i've eaten plenty of wet noodles in my spaghetti. Don't think a wet noodle has ever hurt my stomach or handed me and L on the pooper.

MixMasterLar 09-28-2016 12:57 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi (Post 4478405)
Does Charu have a history of being wolf more often than not? Lol

Did you read SunFan's post?

Or the majority of the thread?

R.E. Aryxi 09-28-2016 12:58 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Not yet, I'm on that rn

Charu 09-28-2016 12:59 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4478404)
With an answer like, maybe he is

Maybe you're a wolf with me too.

The possibilities are quite endless, don'tcha think?

MixMasterLar 09-28-2016 01:02 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Naw I think alot of it is pretty clear, bird buddy

Charu 09-28-2016 01:03 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Oh? Please do elaborate on the clearness of the situation.

Charu 09-28-2016 01:04 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I am quite eager to consume the wisdom that you will no doubt pass down from you to me.

R.E. Aryxi 09-28-2016 01:06 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4478409)
Maybe you're a wolf with me too.

The possibilities are quite endless, don'tcha think?

As endless as the possibilities stay within a numeric value then yeah I guess

R.E. Aryxi 09-28-2016 01:07 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4478323)
My role is that of a survivor and not a wolf

^^

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 01:09 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi (Post 4478414)
^^

Nice meme.

Now we have 2 posts for me and still 0 for you.

R.E. Aryxi 09-28-2016 01:11 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4478415)
Nice meme.

Now we have 2 posts for me and still 0 for you.

Sorry if this is a stupid question but you got me confused dude lol, what do you mean?

R.E. Aryxi 09-28-2016 01:11 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Does ^^ now replace the infamous :)( ?

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 01:12 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
The lie detector will detect that your quote of me is true or not and will do nothing against/for you.

R.E. Aryxi 09-28-2016 01:13 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Ah okay.

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 01:14 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I guess I'll help you because I also suffer from being unable to read properly.
Quote:

Originally Posted by thesunfan (Post 4478312)
everyone should post the exact same post that I am about to make word for word with no white text and no small letters etc and failure to do so will result in a likely lynch for anyone that doesn't comply


roundbox 09-28-2016 01:15 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4478381)
I would like to see RB make a I am a survivor and not a wolf post

That'll be nice

is this referring to me or Red Blaster?

also





nah

Red Blaster 09-28-2016 01:17 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Hello friends

MixMasterLar 09-28-2016 01:17 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4478411)
Oh? Please do elaborate on the clearness of the situation.

I think it's clear you dont want to make a claim that can be check
And that worries me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi (Post 4478414)
^^

I don't think that counts bro

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 01:18 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Blaster (Post 4478422)
Hello friends

Do you like anime?

Red Blaster 09-28-2016 01:20 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4478424)
Do you like anime?

It's alright.

Charu 09-28-2016 01:20 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4478423)
I think it's clear you dont want to make a claim that can be check
And that worries me.

You want to know what worries me?

Your reading abilities

HEE HEE HEE

R.E. Aryxi 09-28-2016 01:20 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4478423)
I don't think that counts bro

Really? Damn.

R.E. Aryxi 09-28-2016 01:20 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
My role is that of a survivor and not a wolf

Red Blaster 09-28-2016 01:23 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4478424)
Do you like anime?

More to the point though,

Quote:

I see anime as an escape from the real world and its many problems, where the physically impossible is possible, and anything can be done, all in nice colorful detail.

MixMasterLar 09-28-2016 01:24 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4478421)
is this referring to me or Red Blaster?

also





nah

Both, actually

And djcjajci are you serious?

Charu 09-28-2016 01:24 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I'm wolves with Red Blaster by the way.

Red Blaster 09-28-2016 01:25 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Guess I should also make the obligatory post:

My role is that of a survivor and not a wolf

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 01:26 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4478432)
I'm wolves with Red Blaster by the way.

Yeah, I would escape into watching anime if I was with you too.

btw unrelated but Xenoblade Chronicle was a pretty cool game.

Red Blaster 09-28-2016 01:26 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4478432)
I'm wolves with Red Blaster by the way.

STOP BUSSING MEEEE!!!

MixMasterLar 09-28-2016 01:31 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4478432)
I'm wolves with Red Blaster by the way.

I guess you 're just gonna use this as the post to check later, huh?

......I lean to thinking you're actually a wolf still

Red Blaster 09-28-2016 01:33 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4478434)
btw unrelated but Xenoblade Chronicle was a pretty cool game.

It's got dinosaurs and giant robots that turn into tanks

R.E. Aryxi 09-28-2016 01:33 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I'm going to go to sleep, today's been exhausting for me. gl everyone for now.
And also:
Quote:

I see anime as an escape from the real world and its many problems, where the physically impossible is possible, and anything can be done, all in nice colorful detail.
Anime is the tits.
Not in that sense, it's just aight. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Charu 09-28-2016 01:34 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 01:35 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 

Red Blaster 09-28-2016 01:36 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

R.E. Aryxi 09-28-2016 01:36 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
@Haku

kk, but tomorrow lol.

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 01:38 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Screw this game..

I have an anime friend, it's all I ever wanted.

bye.


roundbox 09-28-2016 02:08 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4478431)
Both, actually

And djcjajci are you serious?

I am 100% serious

ShadoWolfe 09-28-2016 02:37 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4478426)
You want to know what worries me?

Your reading abilities

HEE HEE HEE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4478412)
I am quite eager to consume the wisdom that you will no doubt pass down from you to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arntonach (Post 4478343)
You can't read, wolves can be Lynchproof too. Do you need Hooked On Phonics?


Damn. Y'all need to tone down the savagery a bit, I'm feeling the burn from all the way over here in the peanut gallery.

Interesting strat, sunfan. Thanks, but no thanks. On the bright side, it did make peeps give a bit more content than the usual early game D0 shitposts.

MixMasterLar 09-28-2016 03:02 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Are
You
Fucking
Serious


SunFan is making this easy for town there is no reason not to take his lead

Fuck what is this

MixMasterLar 09-28-2016 03:03 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Naw I think alot of it is pretty clear, bird buddy

MixMasterLar 09-28-2016 03:05 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Whoa my phone kinda freaked out

Not sure why it reposted that

ShadoWolfe 09-28-2016 03:12 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4478460)
Are
You
Fucking
Serious


SunFan is making this easy for town there is no reason not to take his lead

Fuck what is this

Don't you get it? There is no "town"!

Tokzic 09-28-2016 03:14 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
My role is Survivor. I am not a wolf.

Tokzic 09-28-2016 03:16 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
That thought occurred to me too, Sunfan. xD

I was thinking too, we should also make Seering posts. Lie detector says whether the posts are true, right? So if we suspect someone it would be a good idea to make a formal declaration of "X's role is Survivor" and lie detectors can use these posts as Seerings.

I'm voteless today, by the way!

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 03:17 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4478463)
Don't you get it? There is no "town"!

So what?

Kappa

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 03:19 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokzic (Post 4478466)
I'm voteless today, by the way!

I hope you're lying.

Tokzic 09-28-2016 03:19 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokzic (Post 4478466)
I was thinking too, we should also make Seering posts. Lie detector says whether the posts are true, right? So if we suspect someone it would be a good idea to make a formal declaration of "X's role is Survivor" and lie detectors can use these posts as Seerings.

Actually if everybody makes a role declaration this isn't necessary at all.

Tokzic 09-28-2016 03:24 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4478468)
I hope you're lying.

Yeah, I was just reaction testing.

...no, seriously, I'm voteless.

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 03:26 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Can we have gifted wolves in this game?

Apparently we can have lynchproof ones even if they didn't change Op.

like please, I can't even take Arntonach posts seriously and he's the host.

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 03:31 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I'm totally buying this hooked on phonics thing, that must be what I missed in my childhood.

ShadoWolfe 09-28-2016 03:34 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4478467)
So what?

Kappa

So death = loss (by lynch or by NK). Think about it.

ShadoWolfe 09-28-2016 03:39 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4478472)
I'm totally buying this hooked on phonics thing, that must be what I missed in my childhood.

Phonics™ was great as a kid. As was the JumpStart™ Series (3rd, and 5th-7th grades were the best). I played them as games, because they were like really cool RPGs that also forced you to think, solve logic and math puzzles, and were generally both highly educational and engaging.

What? Shut up.

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 03:44 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I'm not worried about losing this game, I'm confident that I have no control over how I will win or lose this game.

Wolves can just NK ANYONE for fun.
As for lynches, I prefer to support town-friendly actions even if it kills me.

I understand if you don't want to follow because it's just a gifted role action and it's possible no one roll lie detector, but yeah, I figured I may as well try for the laughs.

Tokzic 09-28-2016 03:47 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
[quote=Arntonach;4478195]And yes, wolves can't get gift roles since they have wolf chat and a factional kill on top of being able to get the lynchproof title. It's not like hard-claiming a gift role could help you much anyways./QUOTE]

Ok I completely disagree with this.

Apparently wolves CANNOT get gift roles. Which means that if you have a gift role, you are cleared survivor.

It was argued in signups thread that this is fine because it means outing your gift is against your wincon, since it makes you a nightkill target.

But that's... fine. That's great. We get 3 clears per day (except when they overlap) and wolves can only kill one person per night. I think if gift receivers claim, we maximise our chance of hitting red each day, which means more Survivors at the end of the game, which means more of us win.

I think if we mass claim gifts the wolves are absolutely fucked.

ShadoWolfe 09-28-2016 03:51 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4478479)
I'm not worried about losing this game, I'm confident that I have no control over how I will win or lose this game.

Sigh. Well, at least you're consistent in your fatalism.

Tokzic 09-28-2016 03:54 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Also here's my anti-phantom symbolic D1 gutread voteless vote on Hakulyte, in the right thread this time.

Tokzic 09-28-2016 03:55 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
*immediately aggros the wolves by posting a good strategy*

*loses by playing well*

This game is weird.

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 03:58 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I guess this is how I get rewarded for being active in this game.

Sure, whatever.

Tokzic 09-28-2016 04:03 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4478484)
I guess this is how I get rewarded for being active in this game.

Sure, whatever.

That's part of where the gutread's coming from, I think. I sense considerably more investment in this game compared to what I remember from you in past games.

I wouldn't sweat it either way, though! It's just the voteless guy making a not-vote guess after one read of the thread. xD

MixMasterLar 09-28-2016 04:04 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I like Haku right now

Tokzic I hear ya but I think your gut is wrong

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 04:06 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
You should have read my previous game.

I was inactive Day 1 and I had the highest postcount in Day 3.

I'm also on vacations and I have a ton of free time compared to my first games.

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 04:19 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Well, I think at the rate I'm posting, solving me is going to happen sooner or later.

Probably going to sleep for now. I have nothing against anyone currently online.

ShadoWolfe 09-28-2016 04:33 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokzic (Post 4478480)
Apparently wolves CANNOT get gift roles. Which means that if you have a gift role, you are cleared survivor.

It was argued in signups thread that this is fine because it means outing your gift is against your wincon, since it makes you a nightkill target.

But that's... fine. That's great. We get 3 clears per day (except when they overlap) and wolves can only kill one person per night. I think if gift receivers claim, we maximise our chance of hitting red each day, which means more Survivors at the end of the game, which means more of us win.

I think if we mass claim gifts the wolves are absolutely fucked.

Sigh...You guys are making my post-drunk headache worse.
As I said in the signups, there's no incentive to massclaiming in this game. In TWG, utilitarianism makes sense because town victory is still victory even after death. In survivor, martyring ourselves nets no such merits. This is entirely an individualistic game. Also, fakeclaiming is a possiblity you shouldn't be neglecting. I think you'd realize this, though, given that we went through this exact conversation in signups. Honestly, more than anything, your mindless enthusiasm for "absolutely fucking" the wolves despite taking a loss makes me think that you might be one trying to get "cleared" by fakeclaiming early.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokzic (Post 4478483)
*immediately aggros the wolves by posting a good strategy*

*loses by playing well*

This game is weird.

Uh huh. So you do realize that you're "playing" for a loss. Trying to go the deep wolf route, Tokzic?

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 04:40 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
ShadoWolfe, explain me how "playing your way" is going to increase your chances of being alive at the end of the game.

There's no Cop to hide, there's no bs to protect.

Optimally speaking, you just want to win as fast as possible to avoid being a victim of "collateral damage" @ NKs.

I'm pretty sure every Survivor will agree that they want to win as fast as possible before they see their name appear when the next Day starts.

ShadoWolfe 09-28-2016 04:48 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4478494)
being a victim of "collateral damage" @ NKs.

This is where fatalism gets annoying.

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 04:58 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
oh cmon, just because I act in a fatalistic way doesn't mean I won't change my mind later on when there's a reason to care.

I just feel like it's the most interesting thing to do "right now".

ShadoWolfe 09-28-2016 05:03 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
You're still thinking of it in terms of having no control over what'll happen to you, so the utilitarian approach of maximizing survivors appeals to you because it increases your "odds" of surviving.

NKs aren't "collateral damage". Wolves generally target the strongest townreads (unless they suspect a PR) to hide among the remaining black sheep. Know how to avoid being NKed? Become a black sheep. Not black enough to get lynched, hopefully, but still black. The two games of survivor I've played (epicmaf) were both won by my wolfreads, who ended up winning as survivors after most other survivors had been mislynched or nightkilled. I was actually mislynched D2 in one of em because I seemed "too town" for survivor.

The things that happen in this game happen because you make them so, not because they were going to happen anyways and you're just collateral damage.

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 05:15 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I still think I'm right.

Sorry for being dense.

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 05:16 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I agree with what you say, but I still don't see the point.

ShadoWolfe 09-28-2016 05:21 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Someone please explain to me why I feel like Yoda every time I talk to Hakulyte.

In other news, I'm off to bed, this headache is literally splitting my brain apart. Ohwait, it's already split into two hemispheres. Well, it's tearing my corpus callosum to shreds. G'night.

You guys massclaim if you want, more info is always good and I can't be hurt if I don't take part. Have fun, I'mma be right here chillin where I should be. G'night.

@Haku you're not dense, just fatalistic af. Bon nuit.

Hakulyte 09-28-2016 05:50 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Take care. \o

..all these posts were sponsored by Fatalistic Haku inc.

Our company sell domestic wolves for blind people who can't read !

I have one myself. It's a fantastic thing. I can follow it blindly and it can lead me to interesting places every time I decide to go play outside!

I highly suggest one if you also can't read.

They can be a little Tokzic sometimes if you don't take care of them.

Just make sure you treat them well, because even if they're idiots, they can still eat you alive haha! Charu knows.

Thanks for your patronage and see you again tomorrow~

MixMasterLar 09-28-2016 06:33 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I'm more on Haku's side on this. I rather a survivor win then a wolf and even if my death means I lost, ehh...is what it is.

That said, mass claiming when we have can just have fakes probably won't help. I stand by SunFan's idea still, though

MixMasterLar 09-28-2016 06:35 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Anyway bed then gaming with my mom in the afternoon so I'll be back probably towards that evening.

danceflashrevo 09-28-2016 07:02 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4478379)
dfr can I lynch you

if you want iunno

lar what u gamin with your mom. my mom plays mario kart 64 with me sometimes its pretty great. my parents are hella competitive with that



rb

j-rodd123 09-28-2016 07:06 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
First

j-rodd123 09-28-2016 07:08 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
So happy I got a gift, it's not even my birthday!

danceflashrevo 09-28-2016 07:17 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
jrodd i was first u liar

j-rodd123 09-28-2016 07:26 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I was first to just take a refreshing shower tho and I get to drive to school but there's annoying construction on the way so it adds 20 more minutes to the 15 minute drive. Life is unfair

danceflashrevo 09-28-2016 07:32 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
damn that's rough. i get to live at school, so that's... a thing


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