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I believe DBP/Leetic are town and PRs. I won't revisit this I think.
As for MML I'm having a headache over the "I forgot" part. I'm also suspicious about you getting suspicious of me ironically. Besides that, I'd rather vote outside of you this phase if I can. Duskfall feels like a derp town to me by tone alone. Jessie is seriously overly UTR. If that's a town then rip town tbh. Ideally, you'll want her to come here and take a stance. She did that for a bit last phase, but I didn't like it obviously because it was her scum reading me over objective small things. I think she never played with wolf me as well. Bolth feels like a copy/paste of my game without the Haku world garbage. Decent chance at being town. ShadoWolfe would be the wolf mastermind behind the "no kill" theorem for me. That's about it for now. |
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I think we have already lost this game and Mikey with his big brain pretend to red check the unclaim was the nail im the coffin
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Also I don't remember Jesse posting at all
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I swear, I have an inner voice inside me that keeps telling me that everything Duskfall post is fake lolcat tier with an occasional small attempt at getting just serious enough to please the demand.
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I still prefer to think that's a voluntarily annoying town tho.
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Utopic world is that mechanics have been done right, Duskfall got blocked with the NK and ShadoWolfe/Jessie are the other two.
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Part of me thinks im wrong and that logically there's a wolf in the PRs too.
In that scenario, it would be MML. Claims will help solve that a bit hopefully. |
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@DBP
Why no roleblock N1 ? |
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Now he seems to be trying to progress into voting me
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This more recent string of posts is reminiscent of town Haku tinfoil of old
@haku you still, to this date, have not said you thought specific post of mine was scummy. I know you can't help but tinfoil on me but please be reasonable with it and reread me if you insist on continuously including me in your pairings |
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Id like to think mml is town, leetic needs to start re evaluating his life for the fact that he's still alive d4 despite claiming pr d2
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Leetic I'm not bothered isoing can you tell me what your consistent townread and scumreads have been this game?
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Our best info atm is that leetic is definitely wolf siding regardless of his alignment so we should probably do what he's not doing
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Most likely they want you to be the final vote on last mislynch, possibly on me |
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So from your perspective wolves preferred a clear town alive than dead, why so you think that is? |
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It's pretty interesting that MML and Ulle/Shado were on the same wagon as each other three days in a row. That's a remarkable level of coordination for them to both be town.
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Can we insta Duskfall? I don't care if he's town, I'm just asking for my sanity.
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Do you still think it was a holster? |
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Also, it's either "because chaos" or "they failed to NK". |
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Especially when I've addressed how little sense that makes like 10 times |
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Ok is haku just scum here like they seem too smart ti not be following here
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I just feel like the thematic is to team a Haku lynch here and it's pretty obvious that this opens up a MML/Duskfall/Jessie world for me. |
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I DONT THINK LEETIC IS WOLF I NEVER SAID LEETIC IS WOLF I AM SAYING HIS READS ARE OBVIOUSLY AWFUL
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I choose my timing to be a dick sorry :(
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Also I tried to say it a lot and idk haku and you weren't picking up for some reason, haku it's maybe a language barrier
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Why are his reads awful ?
Do you have reads that you think are better ? |
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Help me I'm going crazy
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1) you believe scum holstered haku
2) this means they chose not to kill a clear town, leetic 3) we must now consider why they chose to not kill a clear town, leetic --------- If scum didn't holster then you and me are in a 1v1 so either you need to be wondering why scum specifically want leetic alive Or you need to vote me rn |
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Im happy to cross with haku tomorrow but I'm going to sleep now, probably
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Simple answer: Leetic not dying is not a problem because he was a 1-shot role.
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Could MML be town too because wolf roleblocker should have blocked either DBP or MML while someone else did the NK.
The logic would assume that wolves roleblocked the wrong roleblocker. |
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Make me a reads and convince me your not this dense |
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tl;dr: I think I'm perma town reading MML.
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Fuck I hate how "no kill" makes stuff harder than it should be.
I'd rather just vote Duskfall here and assume it's that simple. |
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Duskfall, can you hard claim ? I'm assuming VT.
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The only thing I'll add to the "why they still alive" argument is that Funny died over Leetic even though there had been tinfoil over if she was Godfather (mostly from me admittedly) and Leetic was universally accepted.
Assuming he's not fake (a fair assumption) that implies to me that Funny must have been on to something that the wolves (or one of them at least) felt was better to be dropped and killed her over the more confirmed town [Its Jessie. I'm implying Funny's insistance on Jessie is correct] |
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I think Funny was also interested to follow Xiz on Bolth as well.
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Dusk coming in here, not claiming anything, not making a real , openly admitting he won't do ISOs, and basically saying a lot of posts that mean nothing makes it seem like all he got was from reading was "I'm suspected because I'm not there" so he rushes in to stir the thread and now he'll bounce until EoD
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Bolth: leetic (4), Xiz (5), Dusk
DBP: psycho (3), Xiz (3), Mikey (1) Dusk: psycho (1), Mikey, DBP (2) FG: jessie, Bolth Haku: leetic (3), Xiz (4), N/A jessie: psycho (5), N/A, Mikey (5) leetic: psycho (6), Xiz (2), Mikey (3) Mikey: psycho (4), jessie (1), DBP (1) MML: leetic (1), Xiz (1), Mikey (2) psycho: N/A Ulle/Shado: leetic (2), Xiz (6), Mikey (4) XelNya: MML Xiz: psycho (2), jessie (2) When the information is lined up like this, you can see some trends that are not immediately apparent. First off, we have four people (DBP, MML, Ulle/Shado, and myself) who only voted for known town. In fact, we were on nearly the same wagons the entire time, only difference being two of us voted for psycho and the other two for leetic. It's still possible that there is a scum in here, at least one is town, and based on the similar progressions, maybe it's reasonable that all of us are town - it would suggest that mafia has been letting town destroy themselves. That leaves Bolth, Dusk, Haku and jessie, and I bet you twenty dollars that at least two, and quite possibly three, of the mafia are in this group. |
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(yes, I changed my mind like 5 times already, I know, I know..)
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Duskfall/Jessie/Bolth
Change my mind fam. (not the hardest task) |
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I probably place my chips on Jessie though. I think, keeping the Funny kill in mind, that she's almost always a wolf here. The other three are.....not playing so hot. Bolth dips before any amount of reads right after he says they'll be good for town , Haku is not being consistant, and Dusk....didn't give me a lot of faith when he showed up. Gun to my head if I knew all three was in that batch i probably clear Bolth, if I knew there were only 2 i think it's Jessie+Dusk. Bolth clear is just gut, his play is still letting me down, but he did legit get pissed at me early game and it felt real. Wolves can get pisses too but comparatively speaking it was the most real shit any of the lot have done |
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Yeah, I'm also concerned about Bolth being a tough call.
Hopefully, it's going to get more clear later on. |
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Without a consistant narrative or progressions Haku just looks like he's been posting word salad and he'll likely flip flop on everyone within the hour again.
Wouldn't be the worst a town has done this game, but I also probably shouldn't have just gut cleared him as hard as i did d0. He seems like he's unable to solve but wants to keep active, and thats more scum then town |
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All I can say is that I was behind on reads and solving here, but it's because I've been wanting my "mass claim" stuff and weird situations kept happening during the course of this game.
This is the first phase where I can sort of do something. |
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Are you saying I should be inactive if I'm doing poorly at solving ? lol
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Idle hands do the devil's work and all that. |
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I've kept watch of the thread because there's specific players I really want to see posting.
e.g: Bolth/Jessie I have very little power on the claim stuff unless you're looking for a second opinion on what's going on. I town read FFA over the posterity stuff he did by example near the end of last phase, but truth is that I don't know if he would have done that as both alignments. Looks like the DBP lynch wasn't necessarily any better either. So, gl me throwing a 3rd wagon here. It wasn't going to happen and would be weird anyway. |
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