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DBP is tricky. |
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Haku waiting last second to try and figure this out is lame
As for me, vote stands. I've nothing to add |
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Hey I'm on data
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I’m placing my vote at exactly 6:59 server time.
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7:59. Gah changing time zones has messed me up
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..but hey I wolf read Xiz with the same logic.
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My last post literally said either policy me or lynch outside the claims Tell the truth bro you always scum read me for nothing |
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You guys don’t need my vote but just posting to say it would’ve been FFA. Don’t really like this situation at all and I’m kinda mad at VT FFA if he put us in this shitty xiz 2.0 situation. Hopefully we’re not wrong.
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Because, if both are lying, it would be CVTTTTT, which has an SK, unless someone has yet to claim
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You literally [ogi censored] |
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FFA
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I assume T/T because I don't see any vote rush.
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I will never understand why my random thoughts get me scumread
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I can't think of anything else that I've thought that isn't in my iso
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stop posting, insta has been reached
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5/1 @ 19:00 00:59 = GOOD 00:00 = BAD ============== flashflash account [5] DaBackpack, MixMasterLar, leetic, ShadoWolfe, jessiebessie DaBackpack [2] flashflash account, Duskfall Duskfall [1] Bolth mannn |
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flashflash account has been lynched. they were Vanilla Town
night 3 is upon us. it will end on May 2nd, 7:00 PM Server Time |
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in the night...
nothing happened we have reached day 3, ending on May 4th at 7:00 PM Server Time you may now post |
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That's probably the best news in this entire game.
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Here's the question: Did the kill fail because scum was roleblocked, or did scum intentionally no kill in order to make a Roleblocker claim look valid?
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There's definitely room for one Roleblocker in the game. In fact, it's nearly guaranteed barring another claim, as there is almost certainly no SK. Whether we believe the other one, that's where things get complicated.
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I blocked Haku, and with no death in the night that's telling, but assuming DBP isn't the maddest of lads and actually a wolf I'll hold off on pushing Haku until everyone checks in.
I had a lot to say about FFA but frankly, I'll leave it as is. |
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I blocked Duskfall last night
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so from my understanding the setup is
VCBBBTT TT = Role Cop + Roleblocker + Godfather which is consistent with the Xiz roleblock |
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Well, may as well finish the mass claim.
I'm hard claiming VT. Starting to think a no kill happened here. |
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MML had precidence for his claim. DBP did not. I can easily see a desperate wolf trying that in that situation.
As a side note, I would recommend not being hasty with votes this phase. Don't want wolves to insta. |
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Optimal scum play is kill one roleblocker and block the other if DBP is telling the truth. Chances that the unblocked roleblocker actually gets the save are not hot, so as scum I'm pretty sure i go for the kill here. Here's the deal though, if DBP is lying and is, say, wolf roleblocker then doesn't that make us short a town PR asuming everyone with a claim has claimed? |
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Haku, does this mean you think dusk is clean? Also claiming VT |
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Nevermind, ninja’d
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Try it again Whats the reason why wolves would no kill here? |
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Everyone needs to claim for the real ideal. What FFA did is one of the reasons why you want full claims. |
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wolf 1 targets MML. wolf 2 roleblocks DBP. MML roleblocks wolf 1, no kill goes off or wolf 1 targets MML. wolf 2 roleblocks MML. DBP roleblocks wolf 1, no kill goes off |
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this is going to be difficult because we know they have a roleblocker and almost certainly targeted one of [DBP, MML] and we currently have no way of knowing who
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It should be obvious, but do not vote anything this phase until there's a consensus on who to lynch.
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To try getting the kill and make the blocka worthless bits og info is the sexier play from their point of view Quote:
....so the question is, we got lucky or wolves trying their hanf at 4D Chess with the no kill? Had we announced blocks the no kill would make sense but not so much here |
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If DBP roleblocker is real, Duskfall is always a wolf here.
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In the world where they don't no kill.
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no-kill is possible but super risky because what happens if one of the roleblockers actually targets a wolf anyway
you would want to guarantee that both roleblockers somehow end up on town players for the gambit to work |
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Just letting you know that if we decide it needs to be between Haku and Dusk I probably vote Haku here.
Unless there's a solid line of reasoning why wolves thought a no kill would be a good idea I probably vote between them This also assumes that DBP is town. Without another PR claim i probably believe it, but i won't take it for granted at the moment |
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Was Haku town reading Dusk before? I don't recall offhand
Haku you never did just make a reads list that you could link me did you? |
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I think it's safe to assume that one of us was roleblocked last night, which means that only one of our roleblocks actually went through |
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Well, that's rather bad considering all the votes need to be on the same person.
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With that said, I think DBP is almost always a wolf here |
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that's actually probably not worth going into because endless WIFOM
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I also need to think at MML/DBP being W/W now.
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I'm VT too btw
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Yeah, I need the VT count to see which group as too many of each.
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Under 4T scenario, scum would have had to know Mikey's claim was fake. That leaves the question of why scum would fakeclaim under this scenario, as they chose a fakeclaim that would work under the setup. Quote:
More likely possibility: DBP is the scum roleblocker, decided to claim just to try and save himself, as he was near insta twice, including when he made the claim. He was fully not expecting to survive the phase, and the fact that his claim lined up with a possibility is a lucky accident. |
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I was starting to have doubts abput Haku last phase and Dusk started trending a little up for me. Haku is also pretty well townread and in the world where wolves know they can only block one of two, they chose most townread of thd bunch. Unless the team is legit Dusk/Bolth/Jessie picking Dusk seems like youre asking to be blocked (i even considered it, but figured you probably would and thinking think stacking would be idea) Haku more or less went straight for "oh it was no kill" instead of a bunch of random theories that also include "roleblockers blocked some roles" and thats slightly sus I dont recall Haku townreading Dusk as hard as he seems to, although i mighta missed that post |
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MML, are you 100% certain DBP's claim is real?
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I don't even care about the roleblocks right now.
If you're town you got meme'd. If you're wolf, you're trying to end it with 2 blocks on townies. Priority should be to lock the setup. |
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the convenient claim of blocking FFA the two thunderdomes with confirmed towns (though granted their shitty plays were not your fault) the lack of classic DBP oomph the general feeling of fuckery in game state and you being one of two names on this list I feel would be able to pull it off don't worry, I'm not gonna go balls to the walls tunnelvision, it just makes the most sense to me rn wrt a solve |
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I'm like 90% sure he's town though. Even without claims i think we've been seeing his town game. I dont think its smart to doubt the claim |
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can you explain that to me? |
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and you would have to believe that I picked a single-letter fakeclaim instead of the safer double-letter fakeclaim and that I would be willing to sacrifice myself that phase even if I knew mechanically that Mikey was lying and didn't have to fakeclaim at all? and also that I fake softed roleblocker as early as D0 and nothing else, which is the same as committing to a potential 1-letter role which was way more dangerous than a 2-letter role (again) |
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And we aint got no SK at this point. But if leetic is right then womp womp. I guess its a decision i have to make with gut on how i feel DBP has played |
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DBP,you softed d0? I didnt even notice
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and four Ts still means no serial killer, which seems likely at this point |
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