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I don’t entirely know how the letters set-up for this game works, so I can’t really speak to plausibility of all of the claims that have been made. Can someone please enlighten me?
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I still think haku is sus. Nothing has really changed my mind about this since I last explained why. dusk has been UTR previous phases but I’m getting more townie vibes this phase; i appreciate the effort to try to solve the game Bolth- seems to be coming after dusk and me a lot; perhaps a wolf going after the easy inactive targets? leetic seems to be trying to game-solve, which i like It's been hard for me to get a read on shadow because of the slot switch (i should go back and iso shadow tbh- will prob do this rn) |
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this is my obligatory rip eaman post. gonna miss you, buddy (even if you did think i was a wolf lol).
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I think dbp spewed you town in the post where they paired us together
in a nutshell, one of the following is true A) I'm the cop with a green check on MML and a red check on DBP, making them wolf partners and MML the godfather exactly B) DBP and MML are both roleblockers, and overall roleblocked me night 2 and night 1 respectively but there's a lot of nuance to it too so don't just not read |
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I'm going to bed now, feel free to hammer while I'm gone
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Vote Count:
5/1 @ 19:00 00:59 = GOOD 00:00 = BAD ============== flashflash account [3] DaBackpack, MixMasterLar, leetic DaBackpack [2] flashflash account, Duskfall jessiebessie [1] ShadoWolfe Duskfall [1] Bolth mannn |
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So, DBP being fake, MML being real and FFA being real could coexist together ?
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Wouldn't you have gotten "no results" if MML blocked you tho ?
I'm sure the op does mention that when you're Cop. |
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Basically, the new changes are dooming a Cop in this scenario.
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Haku you know I'm not that dense |
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i'm pretty tired, so i'm gonna come back to trying to solve shadowolfe tomorrow.
night y'all. |
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Like if we're wolves and FFA flips town we are both gone next two phases in a situation where one of us could have accomplished the same benefit by ourselves. I'm ok being roasted alives for fucking forgeting shit but this hypothetical team wold plan is stupid |
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Holy shit the more I scroll the more appalling this is
This was supposed to be a cut and dry resolution what haaappeeened |
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Not quite sure how to read into Jess, but I'm likely to vote FFA this phase.
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Oh I'll just look real quick before going to bed he said
It'll be quick, he said Thread was dead, he said |
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The premise of watching DBP/MML lolcat for 2 phases is too appealing.
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This is so fucked
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Just wait when Duskfall claim SK.
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I think I follow MML on this
He's literally stayed the only solid read I've had from the beginning, and I don't think there's any reason to ever out himself to save a DBP!partner if he's wolf The only possible situation he'd ever be wolf in is if he's exactly FFA's partner and they came up with some insane plot to clear MML forever thru FFA's lynch after reading some of the earlier similar conjecture that FFA/DBP were a team trying to do the same but that is such a leap given that a setup where they're both wolves can likely contain a serial killer, and that the serial killer would probably kill MML. Plus, MML's just been towny enough to where I won't go there. MML's soft also looked good that he targeted specifically FFA. if FFA flips red, I think it clears DBP as well, so we'd be left with two nearly confirmed town PRs It's funny that the claimed setup went from being CCC (2.296% chance of rolling) to a BBB (2.296% chance of rolling) |
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I am officially tinfoiling leetic mafia considering he keeps pushing counter wagons to dbp
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Last thought for now 'cause its 3:15 is that I don't think MML and DBP can ever be partners here. It makes 0 sense for a wolf in good town standing to out himself and allow town to get two consecutive wolf lynches after gaining only one town lynch.
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Ok wtf why are dbp and mml both claiming roleblocker lol
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I just really don't know what wolf!FFA would have to gain by the whole redcheck fiasco. He was in good town standing himself. Why nuke himself to take out DBP?
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So lynch Mikey today if he's cop then both dbp and mml are outted scum and we lynch them and make our way to f3
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How bout for DBP? |
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I'm gonna vote Mikey it's mechanically correct atp
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To me the mml "oh wait I forgot to claim" thing is less trying to save dbp, more trying to distance from Mikey |
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Rn I'm thinking Mikey/mml/bolth
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though thinking about it more, an SK would be looking for wolves rn so it'd be a good place to hide idk, I still have a hard time buying it. he's been solidly town. if FFA does flip red, then reading back through their interactions should give us more than conjecture rn |
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People might buy his claim if Mikey flips red but it's important people remember that they can still easily be partners and mml is just trying to be thread spewed He's probably pushing me tomorrow which is sad but maybe funny |
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is it possible for another roleblocker to exist in the setup and have targeted mml n1
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also, I figured out why the roleblock claims
they need to lynch me first because the nature of the roleblock claims on me means that they can still argue that I got blocked and was fpsing if I die first there's still mechanical uncertainty around role resolution |
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That would be like flipping 7 coins and 6 roll heads anyway. Not a very likely scenario
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I have a feeling that if anyone else wanted to claim, they would have done so by now.
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Dusk please explain that, if I'm partners with FFA and wanted to bus him, I chose this clusterfuck instead of just just following DBP's claim?
These tinfoils where I'm being paired with either of them really sell my game short more then I ever have..... |
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my government mandated computer arrived today woo
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Dbp scum world: you are literally outted here if Mikey flips town I don't think i need to explain that I do think Mikey is the scum though |
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it go vroom vroom compared to my old one, that's for sure |
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Vote Count:
5/1 @ 19:00 00:59 = GOOD 00:00 = BAD ============== flashflash account [3] DaBackpack, MixMasterLar, leetic DaBackpack [2] flashflash account, Duskfall jessiebessie [1] ShadoWolfe Duskfall [1] Bolth mannn |
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If FFA flips red:
DBP gets cleared MML read is unimpacted / not cleared because of the possibility of a wolf team trying to salvage a bad FFA play by having MML claim. In terms of overall outcome for an FFA!wolf team, he's caught regardless of whether he or DBP gets lynched first, so having a partner bus to gain fakeclaim believability is net positive once they're in the fake redcheck thunder dome situation they'd have been in. A red flip wouldn't make him look worse, but it wouldn't make him look better imo. If FFA flips blue: DBP is lock wolf MML gains claim believability because, in a DBP/MML wolfteam, wolf!MML never places himself in the hotseat by fake claiming a forgotten block to save DBP for only one phase and draws all the SUS when he was in strong standing before. DBP/MML are never partners imo, so a blue flip from FFA almost locks MML as a roleblocker who had gotten blocked. |
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Assume for a moment FFA flips town today. That locks DBP as a wolf. What do you think that tells you about MML? |
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my main problem with MML is their behavior not matching their claims
it doesn't make sense to me that MML "forgets" to have roleblocked me, especially when they suggested that they thought they might have blocked leetic instead, who has openly claimed a 1x check anyway MML's coming back into the thread looks very coordinated with DBP, especially given how they interact with each other after that if MML is town I think dbp claiming roleblocker should actually make them more suspicious of DBP since the setup can't have 2 town roleblockers combine that with the massive tonal gap of pre-claim MML with post-claim MML and you have a faker |
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If anyone blocked Xiz or MML N1, claim now.
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basically, dbp knows I can't have a red check on them because they roleblocked me night 2, unless they had been roleblocked
so, dbp needs a partner to also claim to have roleblocked me night 1, since MML hypoblocked me night 1, they used MML to try bolstering the claim believability and circumventing the "dbp was roleblocked" scenario they know their best shot at surviving is flipping me today and try to argue that dbp wasn't actually checked, so the only way to do that is to double claim and then try to win the counterclaims in lylo. Fortunately they played it badly enough where they look suspicious anyway, so massclaim tomorrow should lead you guys to lynch them anyway. Good luck |
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I honestly have no clue who the third wolf is lol
f3 should be interesting |
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How do you rationalize them as partners? and why can't there be two town role blockers? I'm more interested in my first question than my 2nd so please do give that one decent attention |
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There's def a wolf blocker |
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Like there is no way I didnt see DBP's claim first |
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Vote Count:
5/1 @ 19:00 00:59 = GOOD 00:00 = BAD ============== flashflash account [3] DaBackpack, MixMasterLar, leetic DaBackpack [2] flashflash account, Duskfall Duskfall [1] Bolth mannn |
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Should DBP and I coordinate blocks for this nightphase?
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Actually probably not
No kill is on so if we pick two targets ahead of time and they're wrong thats just a chance for wolves to nokill and mislynch. May not be a smart way to play this night phase |
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We're a little more than an hour to EOD. If you think Mikey is bad, I would recommend voting now, just to make sure that no crazy EOD shenanigans will go on.
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Anyway, if Mikey flips bad, it doesn't look good for jessiebessie, since she wasn't around when DBP could've potentially been hammered
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any other line and they have to out themselves when I flip
this gives them game in lylo |
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if the play is to lynch me first I might as well |
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