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FFA didn't want a mass claim. I'm the one who wanted one.
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If jessie was a godfather, the one cop already used his shot and other cops would be unlikely.
If jessie was rolecop, most of the roles should already be known by the wolf team If jessie was a roleblocker, that's only really useful if there is an SK I don't really see why any of these are good enough to risk losing thread presence |
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I guess the main thing I can't wrap my head around is why any wolf team would resort to desperate measures when they were in a very comfortable position in the start of D3. It all seems like it would be a needless risk.
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Maybe it's not jessie, but someone like dusk or bolth |
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the other thing I brought up yesterday is that he thought he could weasel out of it tomorrow after I'm mislynched. remember when he didnt actually wanna hardclaim cop? that's because he wanted plausible deniability for when I flipped town. but I forced him to actually claim so that he cant weasel out of it. now that he's actually claimed he is just delaying his demise. |
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Funny was the nightkill, someone who's entire scum list was "totally Jessie" Like this accusation that DBP has isnt coming from no where |
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I know he was for it eventually happening in the event we kept Xiz alive. Pretty sure he mentioned it after |
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Remember that FFA almost got me instalynched and even then he never ACTUALLY claimed cop.
He was totally willing to "pretend to be cop" to get me lynched, but then say "lol I never actually hard claimed cop!" as a way to cover his ass. This man was also willing to let Xiz live until the end of the game because "I told you he was a wolf!! let's lynch him" He has a history of making plans to set up advantageous LYLO/MYLOs |
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Dbp, I don’t understand why you chose to holster? Did you really have no suspicions?
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Am I the only one who's a little weirded out by Haku's behavior? They are watching what's going on but not meaningfully engaging with the discussion
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But he does it as both alignments. Him coming to defend FFA but not stating he's voting along side him feels very middle of the road even for him tho |
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https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roleblocker I think there was a mafia universe thread about it but this wiki page describes it too |
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town roleblocker has the highest chance of hitting a town PR in the first night. it becomes more useful the further along it is. after leetic claimed and xiz flipped, it felt safer to actually use to stop a NK
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There's also the fact that the two people Mikey claimed to check are the same two who claimed to roleblock him, and on the same nights too...
Does he get the identities of the people whole roleblock him? If so, why out them? |
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You literally asked the new sub to hardbuss Funny so you could have him survive F5 and possibly F3 |
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Oh, and jessiebessie is here, say hi everyone
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I subbed into that, and said that they both pushed the funny/tforce meme so hard that they would probably automatically win any lylo situation the first night I came in after actually playing for like 30 minutes I realized we could just powerwolf |
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if that were the case then it wouldn't be a history |
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I think it's not too hard to figure out whether or not haku is partnered with MML and DBP iirc MML's fake peek was on haku, I'm not sure if MML would risk hypocopping a partner |
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afaik the only game where I was wolfing with FG was that mentor game |
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anyway
more league for me |
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I got the dude lynched hard and then basically used his push to clear Funny while you pockted me hard. Lost next phase. I was pretty livid |
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I literally don't remember this game at all, sorry
if it wasn't in like the past 3 months I likely recall very little, if it was beyond a year I don't remember anything about it unless it was a notable game |
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So why did you seer MML then? |
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Seriously reread the D0 EoD with the idea that FFA seered MML. It makes no sense.
Your reaction to leetic seeing FG also makes no sense. If you were so surprised that FG seered green, you would have thought she was wolfy... so why didn't you seer her yourself then? |
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Why did he seer none of his top wolf leans? Because he's not actually tje seer and he made up his seer claim after he saw MML hint at his night action.
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Alright so please correct me if I’ve got something wrong but from my understanding, it looks like only one other PR would need to claim for dbp and mml’s stories to just fall apart, which seems like an obscenely high risk for the wolf team to make which makes me think it’s at MOST t/w
By that logic, even if just one of MML and dbp is telling the truth, then ffa is confirmed to be a liar FFAs position here seems least believable I think MML looks worse than dbp just because of the timing The only other alternative I see is wolf team has already figured out full setup so both MML and dbp felt comfortable both fakeclaiming All this in mind, I think I’d feel most comfortable with an ffa lynch, but it does worry me that MML and dbp are both very capable players and if anyone could pull it off it would be them |
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gonna need a fact check on that |
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Same logic applies if DBP is my partner, except i get the easiest bus of my career after FFA's flip. |
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Someone has pulled a weird gambit, but I think in the end I have to ask less questions when considering if Mikey did it than if MML and DBP. |
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Mikey playing the shortest rounds of league ever tonight I see
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half the stuff I say I don't even believe myself but just say it to see what happens i guess you could say I'm always lying to myself |
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But memes aside why is there a a made up reason to check me d0? |
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Are we looking at a FFA/Jessie/Haku team?
Actually feel like FFA+Haku isn't fair fetch. Haku's been real reserved since this all went down. Said I wasn't believable and then just kinda only reacted to stuff without stances. I'd be less creeped out had he just voted me tbh |
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I never really strongly suspected funnygurl
I was, however, prodding that eod with potential cfds to see how certain people (namely haku and bolt) would respond I thought fg was a good candidate for it because people are generally pretty wary of wolf FG after playing some really solid wolf games recently nobody bit, so, psycho was probably town funnygurl's declaration that xiz was town felt like tmi at first blush but I was more confident that xiz was a wolf, and I thought back to color wheel on MU where fg made similar statements based on snap calls they made then (specifically, they locked a player town after that player "didn't realize someone was dead"). This felt very much the same style of funnygurl then. So I'm not checking xiz after that rescind since they're the next lynch anyway, and I'm not checking funnygurl. I thought about checking fg anyway, and even submitted it, but I changed to uli pretty quick. While I was sleeping, I remembered MML's weird defense of Uli and thought that, if I got a red check on MML, it was all but guaranteed to be a partner interaction OR I like to pretend I'm a god at reading MML for clout, so I just greenchecked him to see if it would annoy him |
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jessiebessie's been viewing this thread for a while yet still hasn't been commenting on anything.
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Oh, the Funny NK was to make me look bad.
Great. |
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I spent half of last phase entertaining a lynch on Funny, but green check blabla kept getting in the way.
I ended up moving back to Jessie, but the lack of content on her side made me feel like that was bad. Since Funny wasn't happening, I ended up being confused and just moved to Xiz relatively unsatisfied overall. |
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this is such a weird conversation because you're trying to follow a logical trail I can't see and it argues for your own wolfiness somehow? |
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Are you trying to shade me for fun ?
I'm just saying that you killed my hypothetical future mislynch. |
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but I'm not trying to shade you I just don't really see how the fg kill ties to you and it could be lolhaku or it could be burden of guilt |
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tbh I'm confused wolves killed your green check over you. |
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like you had the ideal setup to fool me here, but you killed it before it could happen.
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This is not a game where I will lead a single wagon here.
My reads are just not good enough for it. |
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one of my major conclusions before today's clusterfuck:
One or both of MML/DBP has to be a wolf. I said it before and I’ll say it again, it wouldn’t have made sense for xiz to play the way he did D0 if he was NOT town. Wolves fake claim; i can only see a townie trying to fake out wolves claiming and then fake rescinding a claim. Xiz was making a lot of chaotic/poor decisions (still don’t get why xiz would try to out PRs smh) and MML/DBP jumped on that hoping town would blindly follow suit and unfortunately that appears to be what happened. Someone earlier mentioned a green check on mml but i genuinely don’t remember if/when that happened thoughts now: I considered FFA pretty solidly town before this phase. Now I’m just so freaking confused. I mean there’s a chance he’s telling the truth and MML/DBP are wolfing together, which would be supported by the fact that they led the mislynch of Xiz together. |
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