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thanks man

I get why leetic did this

he's town

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dont question my methods

I KNOWWWWW YYOOOUUUU

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on page 50

1) yeah jess is a safe lynch. let's she if she does anything before though

2) GET YOUR FILTHY VOTES OFF XIZ.

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kinda happy with my reads this game so far

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I'd explain my jess read but then she could play against it FWIW

anyway another person who looks bad is ffa

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I think people commonly think xel is a pr

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I'm done reading

does wolf ffa assign so many town reads? hm.

xiz you need to come back and solve the game with me

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Is the team xiz, ffa and funny?

Like I get the purpose of not killing xiz here but I really don’t like the thought process of keeping a suspected wolf alive either

Yea I know I’m probably super wrong but it’s very weird the direction this game has gone since day start and it’s the same few people trying to lead the directions which worries me

I also get the feeling that a lot of people seem to know things I don’t, but I’ll place that due to me not fully understanding of the actual setup of this game

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man if you're town you can't be pulling this shit

xiz is town because he rescinded a claim and reclaimed it, just to say that his kill didn't go through. strange/risky move? yeah, but it's more pro-town than anti-town to do. i trust him

i was green-checked. no one gets to suspect me until we're in a lylo situation

ffa could very well be on a team. but if so idk if we got an ffa/jess combo, so. maybe i'm just wrong about jess

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Probably not Funny because of the Leetic check, so leetic and Funny would be partners

Keep the thoughts coming. stepping away for a hot minute but I will read them tonight

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i'll prolly die b4 lylo let's be real here i think i just got a phase with y'all

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i'm kinda bummed jess isn't here because i love playing with her/she's generally an absolutely wonderful friend but she's got a lot on her plate i guess

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sorry i keep posting so much idk hey haku i trust you so we can bounce thoughts off of each other too

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leetic dies before you since there's godfather equity on you

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also aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I kind of see this could be a slip if bolt is a wolf, they're partners with godfather FG

otherwise yikes dude

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I could have been on a team with jess yesterday but not so much anymore
I have the most partner equity with mml, bolt, and haku

I'm mostly just doing this to get you to speed through it so that you can find me faster

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I'm just going to say no

and with all due respect I don't think xiz is town
but we can agree not to lynch them until lylo

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ulleabhara

naked vote is naked

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Why is town worried about being ded. Explain to me like I'm 5 years old.

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I think you're at the right place.

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I don't see anything here that helps.

I would assume wolves would be willing to vote the player thats more active but Leetic also kinda waited until the final second to come back

Still gonna quote it here for visibility but i don't think wagonomics gonna help us this phase

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Considering that both wagons were on town and the two people on vanity wagons were flipped town and a greencheck respectively, I think that's a sign that at least one of the players who led the discussion D1 is a wolf

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It kind just looks like he didnt read shit

Which is telling of a few things, i guess

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speaking of this votecount it's pretty odd for xel and fg to both be town via wagonomics

w/e greencheck is greencheck

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yeah it mostly just looks that way
hence the yikes

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Break'em down for me

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That sounds important.

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I'll probably do more tomorrow when I am done with all my physics-related things but for now I think DaBackpack is really worth looking into. Was vocal and spent D1 arguing we should lynch inactives (we can see how well that turned out) and he only seemed to push users who were easy targets. Having a pivotal vote on the Psycho wagon does not look very good for him, especially since one of the users he was pushing hard against was already on the wagon and he didn't seem to comment on it. And, he has mysteriously disappeared from the thread.

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Wasn't MML more vocal about lynching inactives than DBP?

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I’m reading everything, I promise you that

I’m just not understanding a lot of what is going on

And I’m kinda sick of getting yelled at by all the high posters whenever I suggest scum possibilities that are outside your apparent realm of possibilities

If scum was always exactly who made the most sense then every game would be over by d3

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fg was checked green by leetic, meaning the slot is pretty likely to be town, but it has a chance of being a check on the godfather (which is statistically unlikely)

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Jessie -shrugs-

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Damn, DBP could be scum too.

Awkward.

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Ulleabhara/Jessie/DBP is my new trend.

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as a potential team? What kind of interactions do they have?

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Go iso Jessie and check her interactions around DBP.

@MML

Ulli was Yuka in Animal Crossing.

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Very dependant on Xiz's alignment tbh.

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all I see is #512 which... doesn't really mean a lot to me

what do you see?

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Xiz is still a huge ???? for me, but he knew that saying he lied about his role at the last second would lead to huge suspicion from town the next day, so I can’t see why he would have done it other than to throw wolves off, right? I think you know that too, which is why this post rubs me the wrong way.

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Well, I'm sure you remember me having the entrance talk about how "xiz,psycho,leetic" are the wolf team because timing etc.

I've been looking up who outside of me was interested to vote inside that circle and why.

Most of them were fairly complacent about going in that direction even if they don't believe it.

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Early in the game, both Jessie/DBP were pretty convinced what I said was obviously wrong too.

They were borderline shocked at how it doesn't make sense.

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I felt like it was a weird coincidence to zero in on, and I still don’t understand why you did. I can’t imagine a world where all of the wolves would enter the chat at the same time. The fact that your focused on it so much makes me question your motives.

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You’re wrong, and I would love an explanation of your logic because people seem to be following you blindly right now.

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Tbh I forgot that the new phase had started already

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No one in that pool talked about how they got here.
No one in that pool reacted to each others.
Everyone in that pool first posted.

Kayla turned afk later on so, that left me in the dark.
leetic probably didn't want the spotlight over this.
Xiz clearly didn't like me going there either.

So, that bugged me the entire phase.

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leetic actually did call out ulia on this
that's why I asked you about your thoughts on their partner equity specifically, but you didn't really have much to say

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I believe IMCOP guy over Ulli.

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Ulli need more game progression and less mechanical talk / reactive talk for me to not wolf read here.

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I mean there’s enough doubt around Xiz that keeping him alive right now in the slightly more likely than not situation where he’s a town PR is worth it to me. Funny has been green checked.
FFA has seemed less... argumentative than I’ve seen him in previous games. This is not really a comment on alignment, mostly just an observation that I invite people that know his meta better than I do to comment on.

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what can i say
im an agreeable guy

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instinctively the point you bring up means to me there's a wolf in xiz/leetic/uli/psycho and their partners are soft defending the entire grouping

so, I can see what you mean

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you guysssss haku is pretty towny
dunno why mml thinks otherwise

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And tbh it bugs me that you were hung up over this the entire phase. If you’re a wolf, it would be very easy to focus on one “sketchy” thing and then avoid having to pretend to solve any other aspect of the game for the rest of the phase.

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I'm fairly confident Xiz is town.

I owe him a win if I'm wrong anyway.

The guy is just going full chaos. I've been there.

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Welcome to Haku.

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xiz can be mechanically confirmed
so we just ignore the slot until massclaim

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K, I'm pretty beat from work today, so I've just skimmed over what I missed, and EWW that EoD.

I want SO BAD to fall victim to confirmation bias + join in Bolth's tinfoil, assume Xiz is wolf, and aggressively scumread both Funny and FFA for hard defending Xiz. But besides that being potentially anti-town just on principle, Funny has an uncountered green on her. So when I get time later in the Day I'm gonna attempt to do some interaction tracing voodoo on D1 and see where that leads me.

This post sticks out to me for some reason:

1) This feels like BS. I never said to vote psycho, nor did I ever claim intent to - I just thought it was a good idea to steer the vigi shot to her. (full disclosure: A vigi clearing up inactives was the boilerplate strategy on my home site - the basic premise of such is that it frees town to look elsewhere and robs wolves of easy mislynches, hence my dislike of how last Day went down)
2) I mean, this is a good point in isolation, but what's your angle? Any associatives you posit between me/Lar?
3) If this is a town mindset, then I'm a Nigerian Princess. Chaos helps the bad guys. Clarity is where town thrives.

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My bad, I guess it's just a vigi shot.

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when did I hard defend xiz?

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MML (and even FFA to some extent) was in direct relation to wanting Xiz dead.

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Lar & co.: "lynch Xiz"

FFA: "don't lynch Xiz, instead treat as confirmed town"

That's not a defense?

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what I gather from this is you aren't reading what I'm saying
and instead cherrypicking lines to stick into an agenda

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nope >:O

why are you town

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This is more often said by a wolf than the opposite.

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Well, I guess if you're wolfing I can town read Jessie.

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Okay, I admit on rereading your posts I was wrong about the "defense" bit, it's just a mechanical hedge. But then there's this post:


How do I make sense as a partner with Xiz?

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can you stop tunneling the green check
we don't even know if there's a godfather in the setup

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Tell me why you aren't partners with xiz cause all I remember from your d1 is 70% mech discussion

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stop it

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It's not confirmed. :v

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okay, xiz and fg are wolves
there's still one more wolf to find, go get em

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If FG is wolf, leetic is still a thing.

Psychoangel got priorized.

FFA voted Psychoangel.

DBP last wolf hunting the SK.

Hurray.

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Crap, that's 4 wolves.

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do you think the setup even has a SK?

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I guess it's not FFA.

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That's a question only wolves can answer atm unfortunately.

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You seem very eager to get me out of the picture all of a sudden.

As to your question: it's hard for me to think that this is something you actually believe when (from your perspective) it requires me to both hop off a townie to hard-bus my buddy (on the first Day of the game, no less, when I literally have the most mislynch options I'll ever have) AND immediately call out said buddy on his weird softclaim instead of leaving him the wiggle room. Doesn't add up to me.

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that makes sense, thanks

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What? who said it could be 1:00 AM already?

I'll play with y'all more some other time

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Notes on ulleabhara, day 2

-unlikely partners with xiz

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