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leetic 05-1-2020 07:16 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Mikey's claim is no longer incompatible with MML's and DBP's. The fact that he is not considering a world in which they are town is another nail in the coffin.

Bolth mannn 05-1-2020 07:18 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4728812)
Are you saying you tried to prevent a Xiz lynch and wanted to keep him alive?

Does anyone else remember anything like that? I don't, and I'm working so I can't exactly go back and check



AFAIK, he was trying to keep xiz alive to solve him in massclaim

I’ve woken up to a clusterfuck guys

I think I’m in the same boat where I agree FFAs strat this phase has been antitown, and it needs to be resolved

Bolth mannn 05-1-2020 07:19 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leetic (Post 4728813)
Mikey's claim is no longer incompatible with MML's and DBP's. The fact that he is not considering a world in which they are town is another nail in the coffin.



That’s what I’m afraid of. If all 3 are town then we’re fucked

ShadoWolfe 05-1-2020 07:19 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leetic (Post 4728813)
Mikey's claim is no longer incompatible with MML's and DBP's. The fact that he is not considering a world in which they are town is another nail in the coffin.

Would you say you know FFA well? Have you played town games with him?

leetic 05-1-2020 07:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4728816)
Would you say you know FFA well? Have you played town games with him?

I've played a few, yes. There was one which I was convinced he was scum because he hard defended two wolves and when I roleblocked him, there were no kills that night, but it turned out to be not the case. The other times I was able to townread him by the end of D1.

jessiebessie 05-1-2020 07:29 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
The more I think about this situation, the more confused I get:
FFA as wolf: pushes a mislynch with a fake claim and gets lynched the next day phase
FFA as town: risks the whole game for a hunch?

Can someone who understands the set-up explain if there’s any possibility of an SK at this point? I could see wolf cop FFA getting an SK check on DBP and trying to take SK down that way maybe? Is this too tinfoil-y??

leetic 05-1-2020 07:31 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jessiebessie (Post 4728818)
The more I think about this situation, the more confused I get:
FFA as wolf: pushes a mislynch with a fake claim and gets lynched the next day phase
FFA as town: risks the whole game for a hunch?

Can someone who understands the set-up explain if there’s any possibility of an SK at this point? I could see wolf cop FFA getting an SK check on DBP and trying to take SK down that way maybe? Is this too tinfoil-y??

That would make it BCVTTTT, which has no SK

leetic 05-1-2020 07:31 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Mikey should also know that SK is investigation immune, since I pointed it out to him earlier.

MixMasterLar 05-1-2020 07:35 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4728798)
I'm VT. I didn't check anyone, I don't know if I got roleblocked.
DBP knows I was roleblocked, but I'm still claiming a red check. The only way that's mechanically possible is if dbp got roleblocked as well. They need to account for that possibility by having MML claim roleblocker as well

So when does Xiz get roleblocked in your story?

ShadoWolfe 05-1-2020 07:35 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jessiebessie (Post 4728818)
The more I think about this situation, the more confused I get:
FFA as wolf: pushes a mislynch with a fake claim and gets lynched the next day phase
FFA as town: risks the whole game for a hunch?

Can someone who understands the set-up explain if there’s any possibility of an SK at this point? I could see wolf cop FFA getting an SK check on DBP and trying to take SK down that way maybe? Is this too tinfoil-y??

If he was wolf rolecop who got an SK check on DBP, he would've claimed cop with an SK check on DBP or just killed the SK at night

Claiming a red check would've been pointless cause he would be disproven as cop if DBP flipped SK instead of wolf

leetic 05-1-2020 07:36 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4728822)
If he was wolf rolecop who got an SK check on DBP, he would've claimed cop with an SK check on DBP or just killed the SK at night

Claiming a red check would've been pointless cause he would be disproven as cop if DBP flipped SK instead of wolf

SK is investigation immune in this setup

jessiebessie 05-1-2020 07:36 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leetic (Post 4728819)
That would make it BCVTTTT, which has no SK

Ok got it. I do not know what to make of this situation at all then...

jessiebessie 05-1-2020 07:37 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leetic (Post 4728823)
SK is investigation immune in this setup

Thanks for the clarification.

leetic 05-1-2020 07:37 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jessiebessie (Post 4728824)
Ok got it. I do not know what to make of this situation at all then...

If someone put a gun to your head and said you have to vote for one person, and if you don't you'll be shot, who would you vote for?

Makilaz 05-1-2020 07:38 PM

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Vote Count:
5/1 @ 19:00

00:59 = GOOD
00:00 = BAD


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ShadoWolfe 05-1-2020 07:38 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
FFA since I'm in and out with work

That's 4 now, careful of hammer in case someone else wants to say something, though it likely won't make much difference today

leetic 05-1-2020 07:40 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
I can see you hiding around Hakulyte, what are your thoughts?

leetic 05-1-2020 07:40 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
And also you should answer the GTH question Haku

jessiebessie 05-1-2020 07:41 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4728822)
If he was wolf rolecop who got an SK check on DBP, he would've claimed cop with an SK check on DBP or just killed the SK at night

Claiming a red check would've been pointless cause he would be disproven as cop if DBP flipped SK instead of wolf

Okay, thanks. I clearly have to read up on mechanics more.

MixMasterLar 05-1-2020 07:41 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4728812)
Are you saying you tried to prevent a Xiz lynch and wanted to keep him alive?

Does anyone else remember anything like that? I don't, and I'm working so I can't exactly go back and check

He did but still said Xiz was wolf 95% of the time

He was clearly trying to have it both ways.


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