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and every time I see it, I never get you lynched because everyone on this planet loves you more than they love me I highly doubt there is anyone else in the game that would kill Subaru last night |
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I thought my vote was on Shado for most of it, saw it not develop, and switched to T-force because he was "not the worst d0 lynch in the world" if there was another minute in the phase, I would've switched back to Shado once I saw like 3 people vote for Trevor after I did and saw you vote Shado there really isn't much process to it; I was just picking a viable wagon that I didn't hate and I hated the fg one |
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... I love you 💖 But my ultimate love is somewhere else, sorry. *cough* Anyways, I believe I outlined perfectly what I would've done. I would've went for the towniest player, no question. Poptart was not my "towniest" player. It was actually star that was my towniest. |
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I kind of hate how I've played this phase thus far
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"SuNfAn ArE yOu SuRe ChARu Is A wOlF i DoN't ReAlLy ReAd HiM wOlF?!?!?!" yes, I'm pretty sure its not even hard; just think about the nightkill and know that Charu makes random as fuck nightkills all the time as a wolf if ur town, you can't seriously expect me to believe that the Subaru nightkill was in your top like 4 guesses for who the nightkill would be |
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I want them to sing
I want them to dance Before they put me in the ground I'll be back later, I guess need to practice for the last final that I'm going to study for for a bit |
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I like Charu's hider crisis today. Like, I'm well aware he's probably capable of faking incredulity and confusion about how the roles would interact, but it didn't feel fake at all and the timing felt right and matched my own thoughts on the hider ish so I'm inclined to lean him town
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either the wolves put KP on Subaru, or they went for the meme option and blocked their own nightkill (which I am not considering but if someone puts drugs in my dinner or something then I'd probably argue that Charu would be the most likely person to argue for that in wolfchat since he doesn't like making nightkills to give information but WHATEVER DAD) its just like a lot I would probably guess Subaru was somewhat likely to hide behind Charu, but that doesn't really matter to me what matters to me is that the wolves DEFINITELY tried to put KP on Subaru and there's not really any good reason to do that imo unless you're Charu and you NEVER GET PUNISHED for making bad nightkills |
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Based on responses to my last question from Charu/InD/sun...a dynamic I thought was happening, actually was not? In that it looked like everybody jumped off Shado and people jumped onto T-Force after this message
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Is there any other explanation for the hider death being the sole death?
I was thinking that Subie died cause he hid behind a maf, but every way I play this out, it becomes clearer that it's who the hider hid behind is completely irrelevant. Wolves have no benefit in roleblocking anyone other than the person they want to kill. So either wolves got lucky with their target or they successfully role read him. I guess I should read his ISO to see if there's an indication as to why. But also @funfan, about Charu being the only lamer to both kill and roleblock the same target, I don't think there's another way for the wolves to use their roleblock power except in doing exactly that .. |
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charu seems fine to me rn. sunfan's tinfoiling. i don't like it
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shado's usually a likable player to me and i aint there w/ him yet. 'tis weird
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sunfan you srs w/ the charu thing
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unvote nah sunfan saved my ass last phase prolly shouldn't
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starting laptop up
im dispensing w my own doomsday scenario rn bc now im convinced sunfan would just block me if that was the road he was going and not out himself, no matter how much he's tickled by the idea of d1 mylo not saying hes not a wolf but hes probably not because of me reasons at least |
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fg is a great blue heron
sunfan/charu are rival hummingbirds star is a flamingo who is not overly pink xel is an albatross shado is a laughing gull |
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So with FG, Charu is arguing there is a notable playfulness that has not been the case for her other recent wolf games. And sun fan likes her for...some reason, probably the stupid vintage thing. I cannot speak to that as much since I have not played with her recently. But I would argue that this being a turbo, T-Force being here, mood outside of the game, or who a wolf partner is, could be factors that would muddy that. But I do imagine it can be tiring to be a wolf repeatedly, and that that could make it harder to have a good performance, so I understand that aspect.
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I want to sink my teeth in more, I know there's some goodish stuff like star's interpretation of Shado's EOD and I promise I'll get around to that stuff, just bug me later
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also energy level things. i can see her get hyped for wolf rands but then the hype doesn't carry over into actual gameplay much. here it still feels real. it's also not like she's just rolled over coming into today after getting the mislynch she kind of wanted. somehow i don't think being ahead in the game actually ever energizes her |
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since there are some confusions, the variation of Weak Hider being used is explained here:
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so, since I keep coming back anyways.
I'll talk about Shado's eod post that star thought meant he was the hider. I now get the completely different reaction and, aside from TWGma, he was the only person who I would've been surprised if they had said that they were the hider. The way he said what he said, if he's town (which I /think/ he is) then he would've just claimed it at that time; he was desperate not to be lynched but he didn't have a trump card. At the time, I wasn't really thinking too deeply about it tho. I said I would've switched back if there was another 60 secs and I think I would've, but looking back, I think that Shado (less likely if he's w/w with someone that changed onto TWGma after I swapped) would've probably just claimed at that time, or perhaps slightly earlier given that he appeared to have been on mobile. |
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did i miss something
was she saying that post made him the hider because i just see her bigger post where she's confused about why a hider would ever post that |
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For posterity I guess I will mention wolf teams I am currently pondering
Shado/Charu Sunfan/Xel |
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Guys, I just came with a mind blowing revelation.
There are no wolves this game. In fact, the only reason why the hider died was because they probably didn't hide at all because they couldn't actually hide! |
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Alright, let me dig around my ol' noggin' and see if anything pops in my mind.
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I Am A Majestic Blue Heron
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Not for star's eyes only people on the NA side of the Atlantic are allowed to view
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shado what's your headspace rn
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If I take the folks out that I think are actually viable voting candidates I am left with... Funnygurl555 ShadoWolfe thesunfan Funny because, as slap happy as she is, she hasn't done anything significant to show what she's thinking besides her take on shadow (and currently thesunfan). YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT, I'M WARY OF YOU Shadow because, well I just don't trust him. You know when you're walking around campus or your work place and you see a student/customer that just gives you bad vibes? That's what I'm getting from Shadow, even though he's being friendly. I think it has to do with his non-chalant callouts to those that have called him out already. thesunfan because he's using this kill as a means to frame me for... dumb crud? No clue, he seems to have gotten a "AHA, GOTCHA" mindset. I don't recall ever making random kills before in the last, err............... idk games ago, but I certainly actually think about kills and don't just point at a random and hope the best. I only do that when there's no thinking involved though, dohoho. |
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Watch one of the wolves be one of the two actively changing their reads and explaining what's going on in there head as clear as they could.
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Y xel screaming town 4 u charu
And u know that I love you more than shado does Do u think panic is a sign of star's wolf game or something? Same 4 ind |
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The person I feel best about currently is actually InD, based on the level of complexity of his thoughts and interactions. Read development on FG and T-Force seems very genuine. High engagement in the last hour of day (22 posts). The bird comparisons.
I think I lean toward Shado's play at the end of the day making more sense from a Vanilla Human acting alone though I need to dig deeper into it. 47 posts from Xel in 12 hours is insane. Do I need to make sure this is not a blind spot still, yes. But ^ is who I am least inclined to vote currently. sun fan's reads seem really aligned with the game state so far and I think that reduces the number of people he can sensibly be a wolf with if that makes sense. |
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Like what the heck? Also, uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh inDheart no, his wolf is super calm no matter what so I don't think I can just lump him from just glancing at his posts. I'd probably have to actually read hard and make some trouble for him to start sweating. He's just that type of player though, wolf or not. star though, probably tbh. |
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i totally thought xel said somewhere he might try to play more of the game instead of just picking at people but now i can't find it. i think it was before this game
dunno how i feel about patting him on the back because just getting a list of colored names out, without much comment to it because he wants people to ~discuss~, is not exactly the level he'd go to if prodded in longer games, it's like...the passable-for-d0 standard if im honest i thought him being around more could be trying to stay out of lynch candidacy as the hider my memory of his wolf games is weirded by him not really liking to play games he's losing, which here he's doing better than |
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While I was driving I was pondering the nightkill situation. From the article FFA posted I understand it to be that both targets die.
So unless the wolves did the meme play of roleblocking themselves, Subaru was actually picked for the kill. Funnygurl, Shado, Charu, Xel were all neutral to negative on Subaru. Sun fan called him "lock town". InD and I had him as top 2 town reads, but InD tried to hint he would be hiding with Sun fan. Which leaves Sun fan and I as the most likely people who wolves may hope are hiding behind Subaru if Subaru is not the hider. (If the hider's goal is to pick a town person who is not going to die.) I do not really see this as implicating anybody in particular but Subaru seems like a better kill for teams sun fan is not on. Since he probably should be blocking InD. |
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alright, finally finished with the last final that I am going to both with seriously studying for
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last hour stuff
shado seems extremely loose and maybe that's what i don't like. it's one thing to not know what to do/have trouble with d0, it's another to give it a try anyway and take it semi-seriously. people can funpost, i just wasn't getting the sense that things were solidifying until i started talking to him directly more, and then self pres kind of gave him an out to having a read at eod. star sees this still like charu trying to engage with subaru. don't like his reads as much since it's like he's closing off any other curiosity he could have about the game, when he just told me he had like 4 reads, but it does track with him saying he doesn't know who a wolf is by then and trying to find one funny saying the vc sux is another point of attentiveness to who gets lynched enjoy xel asking funny to widen net actually if trevor wasn't an option track this post from star forward to today and i think the processes are pretty similar. boy this is tough top half of page 5 is all varying degrees of floaty; in terms of floatiness perhaps charu > xel> shado > fg? was interesting that i swayed charu in 342, i suppose; following people is weird when you have so many towns but like also he knows i don't share that read so i still don't know what to think people focus up more after this; shado and star are not entirely lynch focused yet bc of their convo but then shado just kinda has a subaru suspicion appear. funny fencesits but comments on subaru's reads. xel says she's "crowd surfing" which is rather apt. like besides the meta reasons that get shouted at bottom of page, she seems like a fiiine wagon candidate which xel and i get on for here @xel #425, how are thoughts on the things you had going on with funny yesterday shaping up? i feel like this didn't change too much for me other than maybe i shouldn't call fg a great blue heron and shado is still just kinda...there. i forgot to tune back into sunfan's posts and i'm wondering whether the absence was semi-strategic, though initially i definitely came away with the impression that he was using the last couple minutes ~well and wanting to be on A Wagon |
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unavailable for a while but should be able to come back
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