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Xel voted for Funny, and well... Xel probably could bus, but he didn't look all that broken up about voting his own wolf. Granted he hasn't really given DEEP thoughts on the game as a whole, but the posting style he's given thus far has been pretty loose if he were to be wolfing. I mean, a theory could be had where Xel's and Funny's game plan was just the usual "let town implode" thing because that's been working awfully a lot recently. |
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TWG is hard. I could go on and on about why. I think the more I play, the more examples I have of myself being wrong - defending wolves and failing to reevaluate, misplaying as a blue, hanging blues while they are afk, etc. And in response to that, I have become my own worst enemy: I make myself miserable with worrying about how not to be wrong. |
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On that note, thanks for the Xel take |
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Has anyone actually seen Xel be a wolf or have any insight into how he might approach it (that hasn't been mentioned already)?
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Yesterday was unlike anything I've seen from you before, even in games I consider much harder to read than this one. That's why I had to ask for your take on your own mental space. Now this should probably a post game thing, but for what it's worth, I think the consensus is that you've by and large lived up to your name as a shining star leading town. That's definitely my thought as well. So don't beat yourself up over a couple mistakes here and there, it'll only cloud you up more |
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I wanted to test that this morning cause he was quieter last phase than he was in the first, and his response to me affirmed my townread. |
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Man, if the wolf isn't thesunfan, then I don't see how we can win guys.
I'm assuming, if thesunfan is not a wolf, then star will die, and it'll be a F3 between me, Shadow, and Xel. There's no actual way for me to defend against this unless I dig really deep into... one of the two that have ample amounts of stuff I can probably turn about and actually try hard. Likewise, I'm assuming if some of you are thinking I'm a wolf, but then find out I'm not after the flip, you'll be stuck with thesunfan who now doesn't look too good either with star STILL probably dying with the same two folks at F3. I don't know, friends. |
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(I thought there was a post he had about being on FG's side of the rivalry but I can't find it, so maybe somebody else said it?)
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So, here's what I have to say. I think that, if I die, its not the greatest tragedy that the world has ever known. I'm not going to spend hours today, or in f3 if I'm there, defending myself and worrying about town winning.
I'm going to try of course. I think that the game is probably simple enough to where you can just kill me and charu in any order and win. I was playing video mafia last night and I was town. I was getting pushed on for (imo) mostly really bad reasoning, and I fought for an hour or so against my death, only to die and for town to get there in the end anyways. People were arguing that I HAD to die for reasons x, y and z (one of them turned out to be that I voted on a mafia, which is funny in hindsight) Obviously, its still good to try, but I do worry that my own words can get in the way of progress sometimes. Anyways I have been wrong on fg before. I think, if you look back, I had progression on her being scummy at like exactly the same time that inD did yesterday. I was honestly getting ready to vote her when I saw two people had done it already. Further, I was going to vote her at EOD and xel beat me to it. I know what that sounds like, but it is true. Believe me or don't. But I'll talk about where I think I went wrong on fg this game. T-Force might've hit the nail on the head, and maybe its easier (easIER and not EASY) for her to disguise herself when she is pushing on T-Force for meme reasons, but I still feel like I will usually find her. She had a good entrance in my opinion, and when she quoted one of my posts calling me town in all caps, I was pretty content with calling her town. When she and I interacted too, she felt in line with how she talks to me when she's town. Going back in time, I think that I would end up being right on fg on d1 a good bit above rand%, and I've been dead-ass wrong before on her (which T-Force mentioned even though I've really suppressed that game from my memory), I'm just USUALLY right. Once the votes came on her last EOD and she wasn't (pleading isn't the right word but I don't really have a better one) with her voters, I felt a lot better about voting her and with the wagon on her. I'd also said that it felt like wolves might've been getting buried by the postcount or struggling to voice their opinions or something, and I kind of still feel like that's it. Charu has (perhaps a bit less accurately than he realizes) said that I will never bus. I agree rather heavily with that, but if you look at the second EOD (don't look at that first one because it looks bad for me), I wasn't defending her. If I'm a wolf, I know that I probably need her alive at parity, otherwise its gonna be pretty tough for me moving forward. As you can probably tell, I haven't had the fight in me this game. I think that'd be kind of silly for me as a wolf, and I know its a bit sillier solely because I really was like about to vote for fg and then xel did it Looking at yesterday, I didn't really expect xel to vote for fg, and I don't think people would've super expected me to do it either, so I think wolves might've underestimated how likely it would be for fg to get lynched there over shado/charu (because at least one of them is always town). I think that this looks bad for Charu but w/e I also don't really have a backup lynch at the moment. Its probably impossible for me to get off of lynching Charu. If we do go to final 3, even if the Werewolf gods smite star-crossed today or something for the lynch, I will reevaluate everyone or w/e politician phrase you know I have to say here when my back is against the wall. I'm gonna try to have fun today in the meantime because I've enjoyed letting the game go, and not enjoyed trying to change the current (the star-crossed words per post analysis is the least I've enjoyed werewolf in a while). |
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with me in the POE, Idk if Charu can really get away with busing like he might normally try to do since I'm the moron that keeps yelling at him that he's a wolf, and he can't afford to nk me when he usually can |
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(Sorry I will come back to analyze these, I just am trying to make use of the short time I have on my laptop)
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that d0 progression on fg from shado looks pretty good in hindsight
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mr. sun, sun, mr. golden sun
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Might as well put mine
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fuck, alright
well now I just deserve whatever happens to me |
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Let's also assume you're town. Do you see Star ever being a wolf here? How about Xel? Those aren't rhetorical lol I'd like you to actually consider that a world where it's town!you, star, Xel, and Charu in an F4 with NoLynch: Off. What percentage of the time do you not vote Charu, and in that case who do you vote for and why? |
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I don't ever see star being a wolf here, I think what I said earlier in the game was right; I don't think she was ever a beacon of towniness that she normally is in the early-game (at least I didn't see it), but with her posts at last eod, while voting fg with spanish question marks, I don't think its possible for her to be a wolf. your progression on fg on d0 looks good (hadn't gone back and reread but I read what star posted) and fg was also pushing you as well in a non-partnery way imo (she tends to not push on her partners) xel is, I guess, the remainder, but since I haven't used the word vintage today, I'll use it here. The way he reacted to people throwing out the idea of lynching him on d0 is the way that I associate town!xel with reacting. I could probably write 500 words on how he /could/ be a wolf, I just don't really think that it would be productive because its just charu. since we can't sleep in this bizarro f4 world you've given, I probably just vote for Charu, throw as many words at him while he and I are brought to the scaffold, and see who wins the thunderdome. numbers are arbitrary, but its a large percentage of the time that I vote Charu there, and it would take something pretty revolutionary to change my mind |
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