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DaBackpack 03-8-2016 04:33 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4414496)
This just might be the most insulting thing someone has ever said to me in the history of twg in all honesty

wait there's a punchline


DaBackpack 03-8-2016 04:34 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j-rodd123 (Post 4414494)
you 2 may as well vote each other

yeah I'm like 90% sure it's not you, but...

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 04:44 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Honestly I'm terrified of getting g this wrong

Xiz 03-8-2016 05:05 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
There are literally no flaws with jrodds and rzrs checks and logic. If it's him he played this flawlessly.

I also feel like if it was him he would have floundered a bit more on the font vs dbp lynch yesterday a bit more

Xiz 03-8-2016 05:10 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Also, looking back on rzr, remember that one post he made where he was all like "guys i think I have 100% solved the game" or something, then he never did and got replaced?

The only way thats fake is if rzr(SK) read someone else as a cop (so i guess xel?) and killed him then has been softing the entire game, and jrodd picked up and copied that.

It is so unrealistic and outside of rzr's playstyle lol.

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 05:23 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Yeah I agree xiz

Xiz 03-8-2016 05:24 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
dude unvote

Xiz 03-8-2016 05:24 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
just incase hold on unvote

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 05:24 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Mr zodiac killer

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 05:25 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
unvote hnm

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 05:26 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4414513)
just incase hold on unvote

What would change your mind? I thought you thought i was the sk?

Xiz 03-8-2016 05:26 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
let me dig back to be 100% sure

I want to lock clear jrodd but, final 3 lol

Xiz 03-8-2016 05:27 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4414516)
What would change your mind? I thought you thought i was the sk?

i still think you are. But I wanna be sure.

Xiz 03-8-2016 05:43 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
lol the more and more I look into jrodd, the worse and worse it looks for DBP. Perhaps i'm not overthinking this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4413411)
Mafia no lynch?
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4413413)
they hit the SK clearly


Quote:

Originally Posted by thesunfan (Post 4407935)
The Serial Killer will be aware if their bulletproof vest is hit.

Dbp can you give me anything else against jrodd in-case it is him? Or are you settled on me?

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 08:18 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4414519)
lol the more and more I look into jrodd, the worse and worse it looks for DBP. Perhaps i'm not overthinking this.





Dbp can you give me anything else against jrodd in-case it is him? Or are you settled on me?

it was totally obvious that either the mafia hit the bulletproof, or the mafia were wiped out -- given that there was a mafia nightkill before, the former was almost certain

there are a few dubious points about jrodd though

1) his claim literally came out of nowhere (even if he was drunk) and is a 100% way to lock clear himself without any penalty from wolves (remember he claimed after the second mafia no-kill) so I probably shouldn't be as trusting as I have been about it
2) his general attitude "hey guys I'm REALLY BAD at hunting serial killers lol" reaaaaaally doesn't ring right to me

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 08:20 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
he mentioned that last point at least twice

but in spite of that, his checks line up, his intuition about AA is pretty solid (he kept insisting that AA wasn't a wolf, or AT LEAST was the godfather, which falls in line with his claim)

so, yeah, if he's a serial killer, he's the GOAT basically

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 08:21 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
it really bothers me that he hasn't really pushed AT ALL this phase, as if he's waiting for you and I to do... something?

going down this path is going to get me in tinfoil mode which is absolutely the worst thing right now

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 08:22 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
like the AA thing is just too good to be fake

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 08:27 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
something else that's nagging in my mind is that you've been pretty towny in this phase so far

your fear that jrodd was going to come and snipe you almost seems legitimate, as if you seriously thought it was a real possibility

but on the other hand, you couldn't really have been tested "for real" because jrodd hasn't been present

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 08:28 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
oh yeah, and his post "you two should really just be voting each other" is really bad

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 08:29 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I don't know

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 08:30 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I'll probably iso you two and rzr later today, but until then

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4414533)
going down this path is going to get me in tinfoil mode which is absolutely the worst thing right now


j-rodd123 03-8-2016 08:43 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
im trying to decipher if xiz's urgency for you to unvote was fake or not considering i was nowhere to be found

j-rodd123 03-8-2016 08:44 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
i still want to vote DBP cuz reasons

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 08:45 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j-rodd123 (Post 4414541)
i still want to vote DBP cuz reasons

why?

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 08:45 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
most of the case against me is "I'm good as a serial killer"

which is a shit-awful reason to think I'm a serial killer

j-rodd123 03-8-2016 08:47 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4414531)
it was totally obvious that either the mafia hit the bulletproof, or the mafia were wiped out -- given that there was a mafia nightkill before, the former was almost certain

there are a few dubious points about jrodd though

1) his claim literally came out of nowhere (even if he was drunk) and is a 100% way to lock clear himself without any penalty from wolves (remember he claimed after the second mafia no-kill) so I probably shouldn't be as trusting as I have been about it
2) his general attitude "hey guys I'm REALLY BAD at hunting serial killers lol" reaaaaaally doesn't ring right to me

i wasnt planning on claiming at all, i was gonna claim when i first got in but then there was no value in claiming given the checks and the kills. but then i didnt care and just felt like doing it, maybe slightly -EV because i wouldve been able to feel the purity of a case on me without being lock clear but oh well

and 2 is very real you can look at my track record and ive been very vocal about my opinion of how i hate SKs because it's the easiest role to defend yourself as and you can usually win just by fading wolf kills and making good night kills. it feels like it's not even a part of the flow of the thread

j-rodd123 03-8-2016 08:47 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
because fontisian said so!!

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 08:48 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j-rodd123 (Post 4414545)
because fontisian said so!!

fontisian was wrong :(

j-rodd123 03-8-2016 08:48 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
also what are you talking about the AA thing? i never said AA couldnt be a wolf or had to be the godfather, that was haku i was saying that about

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 08:49 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j-rodd123 (Post 4414547)
also what are you talking about the AA thing? i never said AA couldnt be a wolf or had to be the godfather, that was haku i was saying that about

oh, right, I misremembered

same thing though

j-rodd123 03-8-2016 08:49 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
how much weight do we put in the night kill as well. killing haku who was screaming it was xiz obviously implicates xiz. but leaving me alive, who was clearly indecisive even though leaning DBP wouldnt be a terrible play by you

Xiz 03-8-2016 08:49 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
a wild cubone appears!

j-rodd123 03-8-2016 08:50 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
also this might be an annoying read for you to hear but ive now come to find that SKs at the end are usually the people going all out

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 08:51 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j-rodd123 (Post 4414550)
how much weight do we put in the night kill as well. killing haku who was screaming it was xiz obviously implicates xiz. but leaving me alive, who was clearly indecisive even though leaning DBP wouldnt be a terrible play by you

I considered why you didn't die instead, but it's wifom

you being alive -> Xiz thought he could sway you to kill me, vs. you actually just being the SK yourself

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 08:52 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j-rodd123 (Post 4414552)
also this might be an annoying read for you to hear but ive now come to find that SKs at the end are usually the people going all out

yeah that's an annoying read

j-rodd123 03-8-2016 08:53 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
im obviously the cop and lol at whatever one of you is faking it to the point where i'd ever remotely be a lynch possibility today

should just vote each other and then ill start asking questions

Xiz 03-8-2016 08:55 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4414531)
it was totally obvious that either the mafia hit the bulletproof, or the mafia were wiped out -- given that there was a mafia nightkill before, the former was almost certain

True, but for how quickly during that phase you immediately assumed the vest was hit, along with the quick-voting fonti that phase really didn't sit well with me. Still the biggest reason why I don't like you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4414531)
1) his claim literally came out of nowhere (even if he was drunk) and is a 100% way to lock clear himself without any penalty from wolves (remember he claimed after the second mafia no-kill) so I probably shouldn't be as trusting as I have been about it

Oh shit never thought of that...
Still, that point is outwayed by how genuine he has been appearing these past two phases.

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 08:55 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j-rodd123 (Post 4414555)
im obviously the cop and lol at whatever one of you is faking it to the point where i'd ever remotely be a lynch possibility today

should just vote each other and then ill start asking questions

I believe you're the cop but like place yourself in my shoes right now

j-rodd123 03-8-2016 08:55 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
nope ill consider any consideration of myself SK as fake

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 08:56 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
i'm gonna grab a bowl

Xiz 03-8-2016 08:57 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4414536)
oh yeah, and his post "you two should really just be voting each other" is really bad

While I would agree with you on most players, it's actually how he usually acts as a real PR.

There is a part of me that believes he doesn't have the balls to be this confident if he was fake lol

j-rodd123 03-8-2016 08:59 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
it's not bad, i dont wanna waste my time other than you 2 duking it out. try and hold on to a 1% chance im the SK, ur never not voting for each other and ur not gonna find an SK smoking gun so why not

j-rodd123 03-8-2016 09:00 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
so the only useful information that's happened so far is me needing to answer:

is DBP's unvote fake

or is xiz's push for the unvote fake

j-rodd123 03-8-2016 09:01 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
so the only useful information that's happened so far is me needing to answer:

is DBP's unvote fake

or is xiz's push for the unvote fake

like it's so annoying, the SK can easily respond to anything since they have no associations

Xiz 03-8-2016 09:01 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
i kinda wanna vote jrodd now.

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 09:02 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
ladies and gentlemen of the audience, I want you all to know that I tried my absolute hardest this game, and if jrodd is the SK, he punked all of us, not just me

xiz

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 09:02 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
unvote

j-rodd123 03-8-2016 09:02 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
see look i see ur post and am not voting

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 09:02 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
i should have left a few seconds in there

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 09:02 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
yeah ok xiz

j-rodd123 03-8-2016 09:03 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Lol trying to angleshoot, well i cleared myself anyway lol you

Xiz 03-8-2016 09:03 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Now I don't like dbp

j-rodd123 03-8-2016 09:03 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
again i see the vote, could end it if im SK but IM OBVIOUSLY NOT

Xiz 03-8-2016 09:03 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
oh god

Xiz 03-8-2016 09:04 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
oh. okay. guess jrodd is clear. fuck me lol

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 09:04 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j-rodd123 (Post 4414571)
Lol trying to angleshoot, well i cleared myself anyway lol you

wait how is that angleshooting?

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 09:04 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
you know, that feels really good

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 09:04 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Xiz is the serial killer

Xiz 03-8-2016 09:05 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
damn it I wish it was jrodd now this game got boring lol.
dbp

j-rodd123 03-8-2016 09:05 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4414576)
wait how is that angleshooting?

i thought u were gonna try and x-post the unvote potentially catching me voting xiz if i was SK. perhaps im using a zenith definition of angleshooting


anyway, MESSAGE TO THE RAIL: i will NOT be making my decision to night, so sorry to all those watching wanting me to succeed (or fail). i have time tomorrow morning to actually reread stuff

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 09:05 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4414579)
damn it I wish it was jrodd now this game got boring lol.
dbp

bull fucking shit dude, you're on the edge of your seat, waiting for jrodd to fuck up and get you the win

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 09:07 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
something to keep in mind jrodd, the no-lynch scenario -----

Xiz was one of the most vocal supporters of the no-lynch, suggesting that he had no fear of the night actions, leading me to think that all of the mafia were dead during the first no-mafia night

DaBackpack 03-8-2016 09:08 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
when you reread***, I'll try to reconstruct the game as well

Xiz 03-8-2016 09:08 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I won't be here tomorrow morning so, rip. If ya wanna ask me more q's wait till tomorrow night then.

j-rodd123 03-8-2016 09:10 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
ill be here tomorrow night also, i just need to study tonight and figured id make a few white noise posts

j-rodd123 03-9-2016 04:27 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
lol so much for being able to read the thread this morning, these servers are shit

DaBackpack 03-9-2016 04:55 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I think AA was the mafia godfather

DaBackpack 03-9-2016 04:57 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
and also the last wolf

DaBackpack 03-9-2016 05:03 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
so I was a little confused as to why Xiz would pioneer the no-lynch if he was afraid of mafia getting his bulletproof

so simply, he didn't lose his bulletproof after the AA lynch, ergo he was the last wolf

the no-lynch works for him because he gets a free nightkill and can still continue to push for mislynches the next immediate day

DaBackpack 03-9-2016 05:05 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
fontisian was on the chopping block, and the no-lynch essentially saved her (for later)

on top of that, he tried to push the next lynch on to me, so that he could literally save fontisian for the final three and snag an almost 100% win

font was totally right, Xiz was trying to preserve her to the final three so he could snatch the win on her

DaBackpack 03-9-2016 05:06 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
and look how weakly he tried to push a lynch on me, too, as if he didn't actually really care who died --- it was just a matter of convenience for him, and you said that you would lynch me over him today jrodd, so he wasn't actually that worried

DaBackpack 03-9-2016 05:08 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
we had it backwards ---- we thought the SK would strongly oppose the no-lynch because they would be in danger, but if the SK actually wasn't in any danger, the no-lynch would be the best outcome 100%

DaBackpack 03-9-2016 05:08 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
especially if they wanted to keep their prey alive until the final three

DaBackpack 03-9-2016 06:11 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
what are you thinking about jrodd

j-rodd123 03-9-2016 07:22 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
im thinking about who to lynch

DaBackpack 03-9-2016 07:27 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j-rodd123 (Post 4414772)
im thinking about who to lynch

the answer is Xiz

read his behaviors after AA was lynched -- when all the wolves were gone

DaBackpack 03-9-2016 07:40 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4413523)
btw, sleep is what we are doing tonight. That's not a question.

he was also the first one to mention the idea of a no-lynch

DaBackpack 03-9-2016 07:42 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4413753)


No lynch is a perfect idea. It confirms if there is a mafia team left or the sk vest was hit. The only way I'm wrong is if there are two mafia, which I don't believe anymore at all.

yeah

DaBackpack 03-9-2016 07:43 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4413756)
^ Btw I said this first before DBP expanded further and better on it which is making me paranoid again.

no lynch

yup


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