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Either post some dank ass reads or post some dank ass content, because if we reach EoD and I still can't place you due to nocontent, you're getting my vote.

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I'm going to sleep soon, but notice that someone should go check if shado made any reads on charu for one

and for two, question why you were apparantly processing charu as "not blue" during d0

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That was for Zenith

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MML check the post order, I'm almost certain I voted shado first

as I said I swapped to xelnya to try and save freezin, then post 1092 is what has xelnya as very town in my mind so I swapped off to try and CFD, but it was too late

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I first voted shado in 1037

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My read on Charu was along the lines of "probably town, pending wolftell"

For two, I wasn't. Over the night phase though, I did wonder who was gonna die and assumed it'd probably be AA. I had a couple other options in mind (not naming names cause I dont wanna give woofs ideas) but Charu just really was not one of them.

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If that's true it's gonna trigger me so damn bad.

Fucking mindmeld right here.

Also PAZZAZ GO SELF FORNICATE YOU CANINE OF THE FEMALE VARITY

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mml didn't refresh soon enough

mindmeld with him on the strangeness of only 1 N0 death, but assuming/asserting there's no third party at this point is stupid

also asserting that "charu is right about someone" is about as base and general as you can get. Also note that you're shoving a "wolves obviously killed charu because he was putting pressure in the right places" reasoning up there.

both of those possibilities are shit and it'd be nice if you didn't operate under either of those assumptions. They're possibilities, yes, but nowhere near as substantial as you're making them out to be

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like I said, I saw pazzaz check in 2-3 times for 30~ min and not post anything which is pretty wolfy

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So glad I saw this post because I caught 1078 and 1097 but didn't see 1037. Almost kind of lost my shit for a sec.

Alright.

Wording: What counts as a slip and what is really just poor vocabulary?

I'm kiiiiiiinndaaaa leeeaaaannnniinng Slliiiiiiiiiippp

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rereading this post makes me lean MML more town

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I guess a third party (or for that matter, wolves) didn't kill/roleblock/item use/whatever, and Charu could have just been a randomed kill/someone knowing how good he tends to magically get d2-3 and wanting to get rid of the problem ahead of time.

But all the same, I'll assume we have a larger wolveteam and no 3rd parties until we see another nightkill. And looking at Charu's post can't hurt.

Man that's garbage, and I --------- actually that's angleshooting

But let's say gut tells me he's totally aware of the game and choosing not to play.

Pazzaz You're reading this, right? Get in here

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watching MML fixate on supposed slips makes me dump him into the town pile for good tbh.

I'm looking at my general feelings towards the players in the game, and it's either null, or town leaning to varying degrees.

I have to commentate osu stuff tomorrow, so I'll be probably attempt to iso people for the first time fucking ever because it feels weird having like a bunch of strong town leans, and no real substance on any scum (AragakiAyase, roundbox, MixMasterLar, XelNya, Vendetta21 for anyone's reference)

feel free to yell at me if i don't actually iso people

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How so?

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Hah, that's funny 'cause I actually thought it'd be funny if someone tinfoiled into that while I was typing it, but figured anyone with a semi-decent grasp of the language would understand that "other options" here relates to "wonder who was gonna die".

What's even funnier is that it isn't either of the options you gave, though. It wasn't a slip, and the "poor vocabulary" comment doesn't apply either because my sentence made grammatical sense. If anything, you could try faulting my word choice, but that still wouldn't apply because the original syntax was not incorrect.

Learn to read, bruh

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mindmeld on his choices for pressure/scum and him raging about xel makes me feel like he's genuinely frustrated about the state of the game and wants people to do stuff

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not sure why you'd assume there are no extra 3rd parties because there are plenty of 3rd party roles that don't have killing powers

like lyncher, for one

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Aye, i'm not saying to completely discount the assumption, just that it's not a very founded one. Given 20 players, and a mystery setup, shit happens. Even with a larger wolf team, you would expect more than 1 kp per night phase at the very least, otherwise the game would drag on til no tomorrow.

Another completely valid option is that some protective role landed a hit or something, however it's not really good at all for anyone to claim with something as insubstantial as like "hey guys i did xyz during the night and maybe this happened whoops i claimed"

and again, i'm not saying to not look at what charu was thinking, just that assuming that there's a guaranteed wolf in charu's wolfreads is also not really a good way to go about things. Of course, given like, general statistics, there's probably a chance that there may be one, and if there's one thing that ffr twg players don't do as often as they should, it's look at dead player's reads.

juckter was playing ffr quite a bit while not making any posts.

psychoangel also popped into the thread and didn't actually say much.

etc.

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To be fair, his "choices" were the only people really discussed at length yesterday.

I think MML's likely town, but more for tone than anything else.

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did anyone besides me actually discuss haku?

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A little busy with parents visiting this weekend but I'll try

I really think there are third party roles this game MML, so I disagree with you there. I don't think your assumption that they don't exist is scummy, so you've got that going for you. However, you trying to instantly frame a lynch based on your two assumptions isn't healthy for you.

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it's strange because haku usually manages to attract a lot of attention to himself regardless of alignment and he's just been passed over this game

yeah he replaced but there was plenty of time left

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I was the first to pressure Aryxi, and I discussed Haku with Haku.

My point is that his wolfleans were the ones that were already laid out on the table, so nothing special about a "mindmeld" there.

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#mindmeld

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You knew it looked funny and that someone could take that the wrong way

Yet decided before you hit send anyway because for whatever reason you liked the word choice

Just to say I could fault you for bad word choice when you get called on it, which again you kind of already knew that and decided it was fine before so ???????????

Fuck my ability to read it's my lack of understanding how someone could do those things for those reasons that's making me question you



1: I like YoshL a little better now. Seems like he's calmed down and is trying.
2: Fuck those players too, but they each at least have one post or more IIRC.

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oh

eh, I think it would be easy to throw in inactives like freezin did so I disagree, I see where you're coming from though

now about those similarities to hydra 7, and why you didn't want to push them until D2...?

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.....True.

Well fuck.

Haku coming in seriously and trying not to post alot is kind of his wolftell. I think Turbo 6 I called him out on it really accurately when he was at 2 post.

The thing about voting him is that he just had the blunder of his life in Turbo 7, and I did kind of expect him to change his entire game regardless of roles after that. I want to see more from him, but if he doesn't ever get back to us I'm really OK with a Haku lynch.

Pretty sure I pointed out I thought I saw Haku's wolftell on the same page he first posted in.

Pretty sure I was the only one going at YoshL for awhile

Pretty sure I was the first one (or really early) to scumread DFR, and the first to vote for him.

Pretty sure I was one of the first to call out Freezin's big post as garbage

Pretty sure you're full of shit.

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Re-read parts of hydra over the break in phases (man, that game is looong). The only similarity I could find in your half of the hydra was that your posts read townie, which is why I hadn't brought it up as soon as this phase started. Reading townie is wifom at best, so I'm content with keeping you at null for now. It was more of a feeling than anything yesterday, so I'm keeping an eye out, but that's pretty much all I can do at this point.

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Again, it wasn't bad word choice. I hit send because I'm not gonna break my flow and edit my posts out of paranoia that someone might tinfoil too hard into the words "other options".

The only reason I even responded to your "sliiiiipp" post was because I had thought of the possibility occurring before it did.

As for your last sentence, that's impossible. That couldn't have been the reason you questioned me because I hadn't given "those reasons" before you did, so please don't try to use present knowledge to justify anything in the past.

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OK


1 - Charu has too many post for what little he actually was saying most of the time

2 - He was on Andy's nuts the last leg their after that "I'll toss a coin" post.
What's interesting is that, Andy being a new player, I can totally see Wolf Andy thinking he's been caught and trying to get rid of the only player who noticed. And fast!

Then again I can see someone more experience seeing that situation and thinking Ah yes easy framin' boys

Whole thing stinks. I do want to see more Andy posts though.

Also HEY V YOU GONNA PLAY NOW?

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I'm not. The Justification of my first post is that it looked like a possible slip.

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V left.

Like a bitch

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This is a faulty assumption because it negates the existence of an entire wolfteam would have had input into "Andy's decision".

Is that what you thought when you saw it, Lar?

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1- Maybe, not if he's entire wolfteam is MIA though.
2- You can tell Shado's serious because he bothered to typed Lar.
3- And no, when I first saw it I thought that Wolf Andy was likely, but it dawned on me that would be a stupid assumption to make.

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I typed he's instead of his

Truly I have reached new lows in English

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Okay I'm not reading the thread yet. Sorry I've been gone, I've worked very hard on a project that's being presented at MIT into the late hours, I'm exhausted blah blah blah excuses I'll save you the sob story. Grill me while I'm gone, I'll respond when I wake up, hopefully feeling refreshed.

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1. If every wolf except one is MIA, I will rant for hours again in both deadchat and postgame. TOO. MANY. WAAAAALLS. will be the dying cry of everyone who will have to suffer my presence in those threads.

2. Yeah, sorta.

3. Fair enough.

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I'll be right there with you. Shit is garbage

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You think the fact that the project is being presented at MIT makes any difference here?!

It does, and I hate how much it does.

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Hey, I appreciate the check in

Just now that I have great expectations for you when you return in hopefully a timely manner and not like at EoD or the next phase or some shit

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Hey Xel, Haku

How have you guys been?

Just hangin' out for the last 20 minutes I see

Must be nice over there where y'all at.

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Oh, just saw this while rereading.
Rip lol

Whelp, we covered it already, after you had to ask a second time (lol)

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Ok well my fish are baked and it doesn't seem like the majority of people here are wanting to post anyway

So I'll check in later.

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I'll catch up on the thread when I get to work in about an hour. Charu seems weird though, I agree.

-o24

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I think you guys should discuss about creating a lynch pool of inactives and use these interactions as a mean to continue the game in the right direction.

While that true, I think it's a bad idea to keep ignoring them "hoping they will eventually get active". It's also giving you all the chance to see what the others think about it.

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The rest of my game atm if I had time would be to reread the thread with Charu and FreezinIce flips in mind and compare their interactions with everyone.

Also, a "follow the vote" could be interesting for tracking purposes.

The problem with me right now is that I really shouldn't even be here right now, I should be sleeping. I hoped for some quick interactions, but I'm barely seeing anyone right now.

So yeah, I would currently priorize a low poster lynch while considering all of the above.

I understand that this is all general/obvious things and that you're hoping to see where I stand exactly, but I really simply am not even in a state to keep up with the game right now.

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Hi Haku. I hope you're enjoying your vacation!
How're things going? Doing well? Internet speeds alright? Tired of rolling wolf yet?

Why is it, "I think you guys should discuss" instead of "I think we should create a pool of inactives"?
Why are you certain that lynching inactives is "the right direction"?

What does, "It's also giving you all the chance to see what the others think about it." mean?

No vote, yet. I think there's a faint possibility you could be a tired town Haku, so I'ma wait this out. My questions about your well-being were genuine, btw, as was my question about you rolling woof.

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This makes sense. I'm so glad you posted this before you left. I'm here for a quick interaction, if you'd like. I understand you haven't kept up with the game, though, so what would you like to gain from this interaction? Feel free to ask me any questions about the game, btw.

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So, I was moved to a new area, there was a super drunk dude who made a run for it, but I think we've caught him, and there is this handicapped scanner thing for opening doors that is beeping randomly and University Police don't know how to stop it. Fun night.

Here's some spicy WIFOM for you:
Charu attacked my weak EOD play, calling me a wolf.
Wolves know I'm town, so getting other town to lynch me saves a wolf through this next phase.
To convince the town I'm a wolf, they kill Charu who was the only one really suspecting I am a wolf, in an attempt to show Charu was onto a wolf read.

As for the coin flip thing: I was really at a toss-up between who I thought was most scummy, Xel or Freezin. I didn't actually flip the coin. I felt Freezin's attempts to admonish himself from our scrutiny were heartfelt and Xel I didn't get the same read from. Therefore, vote on Xel.

-o24

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Ok guys, I'm alive! My role kind of kept me from posting the first day, sorry for not being part of it, I'll post a long post with my thoughts later today.

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Lynching inactives is never going into the right direction. We still have active-enough scumleans to examine that we don't need to start trying to lynch from an inactive pool 40-some-odd-hours away from EoD.

Also inactives+interactions in that sentence is pretty.....contradictory? Yeah I'll go with that.

Haku, I know you're on vacation. When do you think you can seriously sit down and make a somewhat serious post? Even if it just covers like 5 players, I want to see it.


What fucking job do you have rofl

Wow

Woooowww

For a new guy to just come up with this is kind'O weird.

First off, why even make the point right now? No one seriously thinks thought it was you. I came the closest but ultimately admitted that would be a stupid assumption and left it be. You could be commenting on literally every other aspect of the game right now, but chose, out of EoD and this phase's start, to really try to address why you've probably been framed.

Second, that's hella specific for most anyone in this game to just come up with and use in a post. It reads like you (or someone else) have put alot of time into making it believable. Maybe I'm reading a little deep into that since point number 1 is making me suspicious of it, but I'm probably not reading too deep when I say that---

Third, you had a shit EoD regardless of rather you flipped the coin or not (saying you are going to flip a coin does not help the rest of town) and following that up with nothing but defense and no additional thoughts does not look good on you, no matter who you are.

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Hold on a minute


If we're going to talk about roles that prevent you from being active in a game that is very dependent of interactions and activity you are going to have to sale that a little harder then that.

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I work "night" desk staff at the University in the residence halls. Night is a misnomer as it is from 12:00 AM - 8:00 AM, though they are changing it to 7:30 AM soon. Pretty much get paid more than minimum wage to sit around. Some mornings are more exciting than others, case in point this one.
How is that weird? It seemed logical. The only person who put some thought into it was me, because I assumed AA, who imo is strongest town right now, would be the night kill and I would have to argue with Charu about my EOD play. Because I don't have to argue with Charu about it, I figured why the hell not bring it up myself?

My EOD play was going to be shit regardless of whether I posted the coin flip idea or not. In my mind, someone in thread at EOD and who has been at least somewhat active in the discussion would draw more attention to themselves having not voted than voted. So I knew for my sake given that idea I needed a vote on someone. Two wagons were popular, I found myself on one instead of the other because of the rationale in my previous post.

Further analysis? Nothing as of yet. As I said, Charu kill is weird and I gave potential wolf rationale for it. I'll have to go back and refocus on some individual players given what I now know and see how others react. If you want to keep grilling me over my EOD play, feel free. You and I both know I had no experience at that phase prior to that one, and clearly I don't know what I'm doing. I don't regret the coin flip post though, gotta learn somehow.

-o24

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Lmao so you'd potentially scumread me for my posts seeming townie? Ok

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Except I already brought it up, so that weakens the impact of you trying to lampshade it.



Andy

For me to buy that you are town and not a coached wolf, I have to assume that you are extremely sharpwitted and pick up on the subtle aspects of this game with a quickness. That's believable to a degree.

But here, you justify your bad EoD because you where trying to draw less attention by voting. Why would a town player worry about that? Especially in your case when there was not a wagon on you.

If you'd exercised the thought process you had displayed with trying to clear yourself of the Charu kill, or when you caught the host making a mistake, you would have probably concluded that it is in town's best interest to weigh the options even to the last second logically and vote your conscience, posting honest thoughts in real time to allow feedback from others.

Instead you joke about flipping a coin? And justify it by Not wanting to draw attention? Why would town give a FUCK about that at that point in time with as little pressure as you had?

Andy you've already proved you are better then that.

You should regret that

It was horrible

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Oh hey AA. Tell me what you think of Andy. I'll read it later though Imma go to bed

Oh and Hey V PLAY THE FUCKING GAME PLEASE KTHX

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Ok, I've been thinking about the consequences of what I'm about to say, I hope this provides clarity. I thought about keeping this a secret but I will have to say this before the EOD incase I die so here's the truth.
I couldn't speak D0 but instead I received the ability to switch the positions of two people at the beginning of N1. I switched AragakiAyase and Charu. This is why several people reacted weird, they thought AA was gonna die or atleast not that Charu was gonna die. So if I die as town, AA is confirmed town (or the wolves tried to kill one of their own lol).

TL;DR AragakiAyase IS CONFIRMED TOWN FOR ME

From now on I'm normal townie and will be scumhunting. I'll post my thoughts about everyone later.

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Oh what the fuck

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So were you scumreading charu?

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No not really, that was not why I chose him. Yes, choosing a scum and a townie and the scum then dying would have been good but the chances for that happening would be pretty low. If I choose two people who are probably townies, if one of them die then I'll know the other is a townie too. I didn't want to throw my ability way and have it not affecting anything.

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Alright so I have no idea when these phases start and end so don't mind me.

Just read what I missed from EoD post, going to catch up just from there for now and try to do some isolations later if I have the dedication to sit through it all.

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Confused at the first progression between AA/YoshL, maybe it'll be explained later during this read.

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I'm just angry at the shit I got (beyond actually being IRL Unhappy making it's way into my posts didn't help at all) when I've established my thoughts on d0 and they didn't want to hear it so at that point I no longer care.

I wouldn't have worried about actually accusing me though.

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Okay? Let me tack this in my notebook right here that says "FLUFF POSTS"

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I don't really follow

if you pick a townie and a scum, and the townie is targeted but the scum ends up dying, don't you get a similar result of the townie being pseudo confirmed? I think your claim is believable but just trying to make sense of this

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Here I am, don't start your bitching either.

It's just d0. That's why I like to replace (beyond actually having a dedicated replacement for games is kind of nice), although, the last time I replaced it was at the tail end of d0 and I wasn't happy.

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Shit you too? Flufferino.

Though, liked your previous post before this one.

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Yes you're right but if I choose two townies the chance that one of them would be a wolf target doubles. Even then, there was still a chance that none of them would be chosen.

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My comments in bold above.

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Agreeing with this sentiment.

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Utterly confused at what you are directing this post to.

Like saying over there? No way over there! You went too far!

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This entire post made me vomit.

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Oh?

Questioning if you are hesitant (can't believe I'm about to say this) about shoving someone down in the ground and calling them wolf. Then again, I've only kept a thin line of acknowledging and reading a healthy amount of d0, so I don't know how you are progressing through reading people yet.

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+1???

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Had to double take on this post for a moment in bolded but I really enjoy this post.

A little shocked you have these two (one of which was replaced by this time) but not me. I had what, <10 posts throughout d0?

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K E K

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Ultimately nobody wants to do this. Hats off to you.

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Again, thank you

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Oh well? Some of us just don't care to nitpick ourselves with word choice? Like stop being a bitch about it.

Someone already commented before this about your reading comprehension being garbage so maybe not actually dissuade your mind from thinking you're bad and try to get better.

2. *glorified opinion*