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Hakulyte 03-1-2016 12:51 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
There's also the chance that storn get modkilled for inactivity so voting him become a waste.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 12:51 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I hate meta-ing that tho.

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 12:52 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
DBP is super town, jrodd seems very town, red blaster is IC, haku is near-confirmed medic, POE leaves me with:

storn > fonti > xiz

storn is certainly scummier than fonti at this point not only on their own content but also on cedo/V's content but as has been mentioned multiple times fonti is polarized to town/SK and my SK read on xiz isn't that strong. I really think storn is mafia here, in addition to his scummy play he's fixated on the SK (gutread of AA SK, SK really fits AA here, etc.) which lines up with mafia's objective of killing the SK

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 12:56 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
xiz seems to be pushing on "slips" a lot which is something I've done as scum because it's an easy way to pin someone when it's not actually a slip but just them making an assumption or other

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 12:57 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
especially in a game with no cardflips where you have to make assumptions it's not a good thing to scumhunt off of

DaBackpack 03-1-2016 12:58 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase (Post 4412817)
xiz seems to be pushing on "slips" a lot which is something I've done as scum because it's an easy way to pin someone when it's not actually a slip but just them making an assumption or other

this is true, and he's my weakest town read, but shouldn't be a candidate for today imo

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 12:58 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
ok no one is here so I'm going to go do something else

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 12:58 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4412819)
this is true, and he's my weakest town read, but shouldn't be a candidate for today imo

yeah I really want storn dead today, xiz is a last candidate

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 01:06 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
You really want to coin flip that badly?

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 01:08 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4412822)
You really want to coin flip that badly?

I don't think it's a coin flip, I think fonti is more of a coin flip because she's either town or SK while I feel much stronger about storn being mafia

I know this was asked before but should we aim for SK or mafia today?

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 01:08 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
the biggest issue with aiming for the SK is they're almost certainly in one of my townreads while storn is the odd one out

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 01:11 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
fonti has no alternative options.

Storn has you and Xiz.

fonti is not a coin flip.
We will have to kill the SK eventually.
We will KNOW the SK is dead because of night actions (no SK kills)

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 01:12 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
We also need time to see if storn comes say hello and if he don't, he might get modkilled for inactivity.

That would also fill your goal at same time.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 01:13 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I really think this is a win/win scenario.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 01:19 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Regardless of what happens, wait until close to EoD before voting I guess.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 01:28 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
jrodd, I bet you're not going to sponge me, but I won't blame you if you don't.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 01:33 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I mean, you should take me into consideration, but I did do a bunch of bad calls. This could be one as well.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 01:44 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Oh yeah, I totally missed this.
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4412809)
also i don't think AA is a hit

Why?

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 01:59 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4412825)
fonti has no alternative options.

Storn has you and Xiz.

fonti is not a coin flip.
We will have to kill the SK eventually.
We will KNOW the SK is dead because of night actions (no SK kills)

I think xiz could be the SK as well though, a lesser possibility, but one nonetheless and this is why fonti is more of a coin flip to me

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:11 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
afaik everyone except me and RB could be the SK.

There's no way we're going to know who is what in time. I feel the need to take a risk now so tonight hopefully we don't have 2 players dying from night actions.

I'm confident she slipped and semi-conceded as SK and that you're all scared to get the lynch going because she's not Mafia.

I understand the worries but if tonight Mafia and SK kill someone tonight, it's going to look ugly for sure.

I don't like voting her either, but I feel like if I don't do it, I'm going to regret it.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:14 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Also, if I'm not voting her, I'm voting you because I feel like you're getting in the way of my game.

If you want to do something intent-indicative, bandwagon me here at EoD.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:16 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Except that now that I've said that, it's no longer true because I invited you to do something to help me instead of seeing you do something on your own to make me want to clear you.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:16 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I just wanted to provide you an example of an intent solving play.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:18 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quoting your older posts cannot make you solve the intent you already posted. The only way you can fix intent is by doing actions in the present/future that will make us go like "a Town would do this and he just did it".

DaBackpack 03-1-2016 02:18 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
lol I have a drawing class tonight, I forgot

god

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:20 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
My point is that I could quote 50+ of your old posts and you could easily give me tons of reasons as to why it's right or wrong, but I'm never going to know your true motive from that.

DaBackpack 03-1-2016 02:20 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I'd be down for a font lynch too, but I want to go over all the possibilities first, to make sure we aren't majorly fucking up

DaBackpack 03-1-2016 02:21 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
My main concern about lynching the SK over the mafia is that if there are three wolves left we will instantly lose

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:21 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Are you going to be back before EoD DBP?

DaBackpack 03-1-2016 02:21 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I don't -think- there are three wolves alive, but if there are, holy shit

DaBackpack 03-1-2016 02:22 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4412845)
Are you going to be back before EoD DBP?

I will be back an hour before eod

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:22 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
If there's 3 wolves left, consider that we already have loss. lol

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:24 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
If there's 2 wolves left and we play it right after, we can still barely win assuming we do the correct calls. I think it's worth the risk considering what we know so far.

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 02:26 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4412836)
Also, if I'm not voting her, I'm voting you because I feel like you're getting in the way of my game.

If you want to do something intent-indicative, bandwagon me here at EoD.

so if I'm not for everything you want then I'm automatically against you? That's a really bad way to think. by bandwagon you do you mean vote with you or actually vote you? I'm assuming the former because the latter is absurd

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 02:28 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
would you feel better about me if I sheeped everything you said? I'm not going to do that but I'm curious

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 02:31 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
fuck it we better lynch the SK today, if there are 3 wolves left then we deserve to lose (and I still think dfr was a hit)

fonti

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:36 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I think it would be better if you sheeped me once in a while and then did your own game. You need a balance of the two. If you sheep me too much it's just as bad as ignoring me too much and playing your own game.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:38 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase (Post 4412850)
I'm assuming the former because the latter is absurd

That's what my Mafia AA would say~

The only reason I can do what I'm doing is because I'm a nearly confirmed town Medic. Under different circumstances, what I'm saying shouldn't be taken as seriously.

DaBackpack 03-1-2016 02:39 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I think I'll vote font

inb4 haku is actually a wolf and reaches parity this phase

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 02:41 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4412854)
That's what my Mafia AA would say~

The only reason I can do what I'm doing is because I'm a nearly confirmed town Medic. Under different circumstances, what I'm saying shouldn't be taken as seriously.

your idea of a mafia AA is completely wrong then lmfao

have you ever seen my mafia game? No you haven't

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:42 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase (Post 4412856)
your idea of a mafia AA is completely wrong then lmfao

have you ever seen my mafia game? No you haven't

That's what Mafia AA would say~

#can forever post this

Xiz 03-1-2016 02:43 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I'll be in thread in an hour or two, but tonight is caucus night for colorado, so I will NOT be here for end day. Unless they let me use my phone while caucusing lol idk never done it before

DaBackpack 03-1-2016 02:44 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4412858)
I'll be in thread in an hour or two, but tonight is caucus night for colorado, so I will NOT be here for end day. Unless they let me use my phone while caucusing lol idk never done it before

vote4bernie

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 02:44 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4412857)
That's what Mafia AA would say~

#can forever post this

kk

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:51 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
We have 7 players left.

3 votes on fonti.

Insta is 4. Should we be worried? hmm..

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:53 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
What happens if the phase ends early and storn can't post because it ended?

Does that kill storn for inactivity?

Just curious.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:54 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I think there's a potential play here if that's the case rofl..

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 02:57 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4412861)
We have 7 players left.

3 votes on fonti.

Insta is 4. Should we be worried? hmm..

wait there are 3? unvote

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:58 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
storn has a vote on fonti too.

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 02:58 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
no there are 8 left

jrodd
storn
hakulyte
fontisian
xiz
dbp
Aragakiayase
red blaster

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 02:59 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
oh nvm, I can't count, too many "replaced by" everywhere lol.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 03:02 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thesunfan (Post 4412782)
Votes from post 2718 to post 3173
Night in 9:51:15

---
  • Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
  • 2 -- fontisian -- storn42 (1), Hakulyte (94)
  • 1 -- j-rodd123 -- Xiz (46)
  • 1 -- storn42 -- fontisian (69)
  • 1 -- unvote -- AragakiAyase (90)
  • 3 -- not voting -- DaBackpack (71), j-rodd123 (44), Red Blaster (40)

Derp.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 03:05 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I'm still curious about if an insta lynch can force a modkill on players who were not posting (voluntary or not).

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 03:08 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I'm assuming it's not, but what if we had a crazy game and people just kept instalynching everyone super fast and the other players couldn't post. Would that make them all get modkilled? By that logic, I'd say that it's up to the host to decide when a player is really inactive..

meh, this is starting to be irrelevant to the game, sorry.

Xiz 03-1-2016 03:32 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
That awkward moment when you forget you have a Washington drivers license still and not a Colorado one, preventing you from helping out the caucus.

Guess I will be here EOD.

Xiz 03-1-2016 03:35 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Also, I've been thinking, I think DBP hit the nail on the head about font.

DBP said somewhere about how he thought V was going to try to cop claim in wolf chat, which would make a lot of sense to Font's reads/play.

The thing is, it matches with font being the SK but since font was rushing 1 to insta, there is a good chance there are wolves on that wagon.

Xiz 03-1-2016 03:38 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Oh nvm it was 5 to insta.

Storn Haku(clear) AA.

AA I still feel is towny due to him freaking out when font did his reaction thing.
Storn = afk

So actually maybe not, unless Haku is a wolf. But, that's not the world I live in.

j-rodd123 03-1-2016 04:00 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
consider my vote on fonti

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 04:04 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4412876)
DBP said somewhere about how he thought V was going to try to cop claim in wolf chat, which would make a lot of sense to Font's reads/play.

What.

Xiz 03-1-2016 04:20 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4412885)
What.

As in, referring to the softs V made and the reason for them.

What DBP meant was the meaning behind V's softs could be because V was intending to fakeclaim as a wolf. This could have been picked up by font who tried to continue what V was initially trying to accomplish.

Xiz 03-1-2016 04:21 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Let me find the post one sec

Xiz 03-1-2016 04:25 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4412271)
Strictly speaking, it's possible if V was a wolf and left something in the wolfchat

Is that likely? that's whta I'm trying to figure out

^ this

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 04:27 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Well, I already concluded that V couldn't be a Mafia unless Mafia hit the bulletproof vest Day 1 and never finished the SK after on which makes pretty much no sense.

Xiz 03-1-2016 04:40 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Could that be a way to keep V alive if he is a wolf? They just worry about the SK for later and try to take down the blues?

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 04:44 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Well, that's one more reason to lynch fonti.

I think SK claiming Cop could be in an attempt to see if the Town Cop is actually alive and counter-claim? I don't know.

Xiz 03-1-2016 04:54 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
It's still not adding up. I really don't understand font's world.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 04:56 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Ironically, PR hunting should have made me die last night instead of Charu. I could have been lying and hold up on my 1 shot vigi on N2. I didn't unfortunately.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 04:56 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Maybe they both expected the other would lynch me and both went for Charu.

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 04:59 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
I'm not getting anywhere with these calls tho.

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 05:02 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
fonti who's your SK and who's your mafia (one or more)

AragakiAyase 03-1-2016 06:09 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
hi storn start posting now

storn42 03-1-2016 06:11 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
gunna be honest. haven't been on my computer at all since i last posted. catching up on the thread now.

storn42 03-1-2016 06:50 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
so let me ask you all a question here. this is probably going to come off as scummy, but what does lynching me achieve if im such a coin flip? so lets say that im lynched today, the game continues... was i a towny? was i part of the mafia? was i the sk? what do my interactions with other players so far this game indicate? how is lynching me the best option for town today when there is so little to read from me, and more information can be gathered an analyzed from other players in game?

Xiz 03-1-2016 06:55 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by storn42 (Post 4412913)
so let me ask you all a question here. this is probably going to come off as scummy, but what does lynching me achieve if im such a coin flip? so lets say that im lynched today, the game continues... was i a towny? was i part of the mafia? was i the sk? what do my interactions with other players so far this game indicate? how is lynching me the best option for town today when there is so little to read from me, and more information can be gathered an analyzed from other players in game?

I'm not the best person to answer this, so instead can I get a short reads list from you

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 07:03 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
storn, you're like the entire game right now. That's a nice genuine call overall. I like it, but we need to make you post more content to take a real decision about what to do with you.

You have 3 hours to change your entire game and make us paint you a certain way. I've been trying to get a fonti lynch today to hopefully snipe the SK and leave you the next phase as well to do a play, but depending on what you do, this could go any way.

I don't know what you will choose to pick up, but read everything carefully and try to point out odd things to you. If there's a moment where you should be serious about this game, it's now.

DaBackpack 03-1-2016 07:03 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by storn42 (Post 4412913)
so let me ask you all a question here. this is probably going to come off as scummy, but what does lynching me achieve if im such a coin flip? so lets say that im lynched today, the game continues... was i a towny? was i part of the mafia? was i the sk? what do my interactions with other players so far this game indicate? how is lynching me the best option for town today when there is so little to read from me, and more information can be gathered an analyzed from other players in game?

This... is a real terrible reason not to Lynch you

DaBackpack 03-1-2016 07:05 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Haku/storn is making me really uncomfortable right now

Hakulyte 03-1-2016 07:06 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
DBP, your call is right.

He's like the opposite of AA to me, good intents with no content. It's just as bad from my pov.

DaBackpack 03-1-2016 07:09 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
It's raining an I'm trapped in student center without umbrella

DaBackpack 03-1-2016 07:09 PM

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 
Weather sucks man


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