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But I think it's an objectively bad decision for town at this stage too |
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Anyone else here to weigh in ?
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I'm probably voting fg
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But that's just me |
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I'm at an arcade right now so gimme a bit if you really want me to argue it properly
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no-lynching preserves the ambiguity between us and increases the chance that at least one of two NKs lands on me, which would not at all be them hitting each other |
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going to take a late-night shower and try this cooling down thing that was in a news article, be back after that. supposed to be good for your head and stuff
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am back, apparently i missed nothing but i'm around
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too sleepy to make it
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have you been following along? where you at on what to do today? |
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This is assuming a mislynch worst case scenario vs us taking a stab today at a 2/3 odds
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so they can just attack each other killing anyone else is playing to at most a draw, i'm pretty sure |
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in addition, it clears or condemns you, and i'd like to do that you're basically making the argument you're priced into as a wolf here, which i appreciate, but it's not good for town |
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but fmpov the 2/3 is 100% because i'll always be voting to lynch not-me following your scenario actually just kinda makes things longer for no reason (i'm into the last 50 xiz posts btw) |
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
So if we no lynch, that puts this phase at 5, which can actually lead to an insta draw here if sk and wolf kill a town each, or if tps hides even though he shouldn't.
It could put us at 4, with a town dying, which creates ambiguity of if there is even a SK. In that situation we would have to no lynch as well though, and effectively leave it up to RNG that we win. No lynch is useless; but arguably as well, it's the only way for a wolf tps to win. I cant see any other angle for wanting a no lunch here |
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I think no lynching is a bad idea objectively and I would rather I get lynched than us no lynching
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means nothing and then we face the possibility of an SK/wolf bandwagon at the last second that literally loses us the game. |
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hwap |
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if he's just a wolf, then only one person can die, and then i think it's no longer allowed to be you and what he's gonna spin is "huh, they both must have flipped the coin wrong, that's weird" so like, maybe it's not that bad of an outcome actually because i just figured out the story lol, but it feels bad |
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
Cel, I'm trying to bank on prisoners dilemma with two chances for us to essentially lock the game this night vs fucking it up and losing for sure today. I'm not saying it's the only path, just the optimal. Your strategy is based around the worst case scenario happening post no-lynch instead of the most likely one. You're the only person I trust at this point right now so I'm a little disappointed that you're playing as discouraged as you are. Pit the desperate roles against each other makes the most sense to me, I don't even understand why you think I would want this to go any further than what is reasonable.
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If we want to stake the game on a 66% chance of getting it right today then I'll do it, but we have to be sure about the target or it's game over.
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Well thats why I advocated for a mislynch, so that if we do mislynch then they would actually have to kill each other if they want any chance of winning, because technically if we mislynch it's impossible for a sk or wolf to win
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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
Anyways how do you guys feel about a fg lynch
fg if you're town I hope you realize even still that you getting lynched is better than a no lynch |
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bope. i left tps for last since fewest posts notably neither of the two has really dealt with whether or not tps' claim was real at the time, although that sentiment may have been common because his claim made for a valid setup. but it's not even like "oh i was wrong", it's just, stopped talking about him at all |
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also thanks for writing this, i've meant to get around to writing a post like that like "i may not even be lynching you as a wolf here but this is part of resolving this to my mechanical satisfaction" |
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
not as much as i thought there'd be; i think a team with tps wolf on it thinks they can get a lot of mileage out of claiming, but it's not a route available to xiz because they already went forward and made the two claims they could safely make, and the situation they dealt with eod3 was a lot of town being very right about him the claims give tps an escape hatch to just suddenly townread freezin here after having him at scum and voting him all d2, because otherwise nothing explains the progression and similarly xiz can get pulled out of his scumread on tps, though he was also getting lynched so at a point that stopped mattering |
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
funnygurl555
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Ind I think you're wasting your time a bit here to be totally honest unless it's for self satisfaction
I dont think tps needs to be looked at because if hes a wolf it would be very obvious btw tps dont hide, if theres no kills in the night I would advocate for lynching you |
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
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the elite play is just to lynch tps considering that's where i'm at, but it doesn't deal with the dangerous ambiguity between us three i know i'm town. i can't know you guys are unless i do this. mechanical satisfaction and all that i think we got this though |
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the f3 shouldn't be bad, yes, that's the point i've been trying to make. it's a legacy of sorts for me |
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Mechanically (hi sunfan), lynching not tps here is correct, and so is avoiding a no lynch
Sorry friend tps |
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also yes good point with that last bit about no hiding
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This doesnt feel like a f5
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Ind if you're bored quickly explain why you didnt vote btw
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Nabbing post 3000
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a pseudo-historical recreation of my post would be something like Quote:
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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
For what it's worth I'd probably vote ind over fg based on wagon stuff etc yada yada but I dont think that's possible right now unless ind self votes
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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
I think a post like that has a lot of assumptions within it but if authentic that's ok I guess
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zzzzzzzzzzz
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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
Stoppu Postu
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It is night ---
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Funnygurl555 has been Lynched. Night 5 will end in 24 hours on 8/29/2018 at 11:00 PM Server Time, or once all night actions have been submitted and confirmed (expedited). Day 6 will always end at 11:00 PM Server time as if the Night phase took 24 full hours |
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In the night... Day 6 will end in ~31 hours on 8/30/2018 at 11:00 PM Server Time |
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
voting tps eventually pretty much guaranteed lol
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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
Well tbh either way my stance doesnt change
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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
fun fact: if tps isnt a wolf then town has no chance of winning unless we lynch him right here and the two killers kill each other or whatever
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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
unless we no lynch but I'm not doing that
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i realized overnight he always had to no-kill because otherwise 1) the draw scenario would be created in his world if he kills you, but the game wouldn't end, or 2) the world is falsified by flipping one of me or blind this is my 300th post in the game and i wanted it to just be a windmill slam vote for tps, but if we're taking it slower that's fine i guess |
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even if we do lynch correctly here in the sk/wolf world, town still loses, fun eh
so honestly tps lynch is a may as well |
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no lynch has a high possibility of a straight up town loss too even
like the only way we win is if we lynch tps or something and frankly the world where ind and blind are both scum would blow my mind honestly ind if you are a wolf or sk you actually can claim it and I'd still vote tps, hold me to it |
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the only world that makes sense with tps as town is if wolf broke vest and tps hid behind me and sk tried to kill tps
or if they both/either just decided to no kill |
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he's the wolf though. fg lynch was the last piece blind and i needed to know |
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tps
feel free to pile on/hammer |
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are you actually town though
like again this is the only time it's safe to claim sk or wolf |
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this is just more me being curious
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lol star citizen |
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well you have literally no reason to lie so :thinking:
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if you admit to being wolf or sk I'll vote blind and give you the win
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jk I dont care really still gonna vote tps
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this is the part of the game where i get to zzzzz now
i might have to introduce some more Zs to the alphabet |
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Im really sorry guys, i was at a Taylor swift concert(FRONT FUCKING ROW) and missed eod. I can't complain about the results, but should of went InD for wolf kill instead of sk kill. But either way looks like the same flip. Im down on the tps vote. Sun fan has been spot on this game, i don't doubt his tps read.
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Damn dude that sounds like a lot of fun, nice
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Anyways I'm mostly just waiting to hear what tps says for the hell of it
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idk if i missed something but pretty sure you and funny both said this, i'm just interested |
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tps being a real hider would mean there's always both, so i guess that's why it didn't make a big diff to me, although if it was between you and funny i had her down as the likelier wolf |
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It actually mechanically makes the most sense for tps to not be wolf unless we're being memed on which is a tough spot
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like his claim is just confirmed false from blind's and my pov now, and that means setup doesn't have a SK because there'd have to also be a town role that never claimed. there's also the matter of no double nightkills ever even through 5 nights, which technically isn't definitive, but it's evidence anyone else being the wolf in a game with no SK would require a town tps to be fake claiming, and maintain the fake claim to mylo for ??? reasons, and make us think there is a SK also for ??? reasons wdym "memed on" |
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Obviously if you're town from your point of view it makes no sense for anyone but tps to be wolf |
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