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XelNya 05-2-2019 03:15 PM

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this was the twg I craved

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 03:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4672763)
Stop.

Neither of you have played with Haku recently.

It wasn't surprising to see a certain level of Haku fixation from Daikyi given the fallout after that one FE game, but I didn't expect this from you too.
Making scornful comments isn't productive. Reread your comment if you disagree.

It's easy to focus on Haku's bad points and see little else. It's easy to make genuine sounding posts scorning Haku when you have genuine scorn towards his play, but neither are productive or even helpful to your own slots.

If the only thing you can direct towards that slot is derisive commentary, consider ignoring the slot for a portion of the remainder of day. Focus on anything else, because it gets hard to read your slots through it.

I feel now is as good a time as any to note that in reading Daikyi specifically I get the feeling that he's trying to keep an open mind on the slot despite personal reservations towards the player, which seems like it would come more from a townie mindset than a scum one if true

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 03:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradiant (Post 4672764)
No reason to act all holier than thou. It was a small input on a discussion that was going on, not like I've been riding on him all game or anything lmao. chill

I get it fam I know it was your first post on the topic, but one post builds on another pretty quick and next thing you know you've got a mountain. You've seen it before, especially where he's concerned. Better to stop it early, no?

Gradiant 05-2-2019 03:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4672767)
I get it fam I know it was your first post on the topic, but one post builds on another pretty quick and next thing you know you've got a mountain. You've seen it before, especially where he's concerned. Better to stop it early, no?

We'll see later on I suppose, it depends on if that style of play continues and interactions with that later as well. Your reaction was insightful though.

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 03:25 PM

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Moving star off the table for today. In just the last turbo, her scumplay was "yay I don't have to solve", and here I'm seeing a thought process that seems like almost internally-directed solving rather than one motivated by an effort to *appear* like she's solving.

While she's spoke of a determination to win her next scumgame, and definitely has the adaptability to learn quick from last game, I don't see her producing genuine feeling trains of thought this quick. Not smart to write her off yet, but I think it's safe to move her out of the lynchpool for today

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 03:26 PM

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mellon-collie

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 03:28 PM

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that dash was supposed to be an underscore >.>

Yo Raeko there's been enough interaction to do your thing and charge up those feelers. Share some thoughts?

Hakulyte 05-2-2019 03:32 PM

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Well, looks like I gave something to talk about at least.

gtg work unfortunately.

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 03:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by star-crossed (Post 4672742)
And with "always", is your sample size just the one game..?

I chuckled. Also, I'm digging the new avatar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4672749)
that and the concept of haku thinking very high of his own play, when he's usually also very high on self dep, is amusing to me

I chuckled some more

flashflash account 05-2-2019 03:46 PM

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Star isn't town yet

I know I put her as town last page but
That's more of a guess with only three wolves

Sure she's more town than the turbo but that is not saying much

mellon_collie 05-2-2019 03:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4672771)
that dash was supposed to be an underscore >.>

Yo Raeko there's been enough interaction to do your thing and charge up those feelers. Share some thoughts?

I was about to yell at you, not for the vote but for the dash! but now you are forgiven

my thoughts so far would be I agree with you about star. I think she is playing towny so far and wouldn't vote for her today. When I think back to the game where she was a wolf I feel like it became obvious so I think that would probably happen again at some point if she is wolfing

I wish Haku were around to explain the worry of being in the same position as last game, given how it was really different :/ I just thought the way that was brought up was weird, but oh well

I don't really like how Roundbox has shown up but not really said anything meaningful. but obviously he's still at work so I don't want to hold that against him but just keeping note of it

I like YoshL because of his mindset, seems like he is thinking of town-y things. Obviously we picked up on the same weird thing about Haku but just in general I see what he is saying in his posts a lot and he seems towny

Also I think that you are very mean for voting for me

Sorry this post became long

Wayward Vagabond 05-2-2019 03:50 PM

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There's so much to read already

MixMasterLar 05-2-2019 03:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daikyi (Post 4672733)
ok so from what i understand mml, you believe that i am padding, by offering up commentary on what i think someones doing in thread.

like, confirm that you believe thats padding more than someone spamming thread and talking about the previous game, as if the prev. game performance was somehow tightly linked to this game

No one would argue that what your posting is mechanically more insightful then anything Haku posts d0 in the history of ever (I love you Haku but you just shine better later on) but I think what Haku is fixated on and the manner he's going about it is telling specifically for him and his meta


That said I believe that giving general thoughts about Haku d0 is pure easy-mode and I was under the assumption that you knew Haku better then to really see anything worth commenting. That said, I will concede its been awhile for you too and you may not really hold that view.

Still What Haku says tells me about what he sees his role as where yours really didn't leave much of an impression other then d0 thoughts. Which is fine; it's much more then some people give on d0 and all that can be asked but I think it's funny you would call Haku's padding because at the end of the game your d0 thoughts are d0 thoughts.

Hence, your post is closer to padding then his.

If you want to see that remake of mine black/white (as you have accused me of doing to Haku's post) and read that as "He's calling my post padding!"....well, I'd say I don't think I would disagree with that assessment either, but again if it's been awhile since you've played with Haku and you're trying to reset the meta read then I'll concede your post serves a better purpose.

But I'll spoil the fun right now and you that Haku is still extremely easy to solve. He's the one d0 read I always nail right. I understand if what works for me isn't a good reason for you but that's where I am on him. Mechanics / slips would have to be made before I really think what he posted came from WolfHaku.

Wayward Vagabond 05-2-2019 03:51 PM

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raeko you haven't ~_^ in your last couple of pictures and that's pretty wolfy

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 03:52 PM

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Can you give me an example of YoshL's towny things that you saw he was thinking of? Just curious

MixMasterLar 05-2-2019 03:53 PM

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Also @Star

We should aspire to be the shepherds of Town and guide the flock to victory, not the sheep that makes horrible votes because someone he sees as a good player got upset at someone else

MixMasterLar 05-2-2019 04:03 PM

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OK I'll be busy all day so here's some thoughts

I like that Shado is doing stuff

I remember Gradiant being more aggressive as town and was surprised that he didn't get into it with Shado

I think what Raeko says about Roundbox is incorrect as I always feel like he doesn't hardly play every d0 I play with him. Roundbox noshowing is null this early.

I don't know how pure Star's vote on me was but I am confident that the logic is bad

FFA acting like he doesn't know what he's doing is a skit I'm extremely interested in seeing develop, I guess.

MixMasterLar 05-2-2019 04:04 PM

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Also signal boosting this because I too would greatly benefit in seeing this answered for my own reads

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4672779)
Can you give me an example of YoshL's towny things that you saw he was thinking of? Just curious


inDheart 05-2-2019 04:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4672763)
Stop.

Neither of you have played with Haku recently.

It wasn't surprising to see a certain level of Haku fixation from Daikyi given the fallout after that one FE game, but I didn't expect this from you too.
Making scornful comments isn't productive. Reread your comment if you disagree.

It's easy to focus on Haku's bad points and see little else. It's easy to make genuine sounding posts scorning Haku when you have genuine scorn towards his play, but neither are productive or even helpful to your own slots.

If the only thing you can direct towards that slot is derisive commentary, consider ignoring the slot for a portion of the remainder of day. Focus on anything else, because it gets hard to read your slots through it.

is there a specific relevance to the bolded that would make haku's meta different that i should know about, or is it just the holdover thoughts aspect between those two

inDheart 05-2-2019 04:11 PM

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wayward

dance for me


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