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flashflash account 05-2-2019 05:11 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Meh not a legit question imo
More like something to tunnel on to try getting reactions but there's also just some semantic misunderstanding here that you seem stuck on too, which is mostly my fault so sorry about that part

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 05:12 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Bolding added by me

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daikyi (Post 4672787)
i think shadowolfe you need to reread intent of my post, and the fact that im not really pushing the thought any further. i even characterized the thought initially as just that, a thought that doesnt really lead to many data points in my mind. i even allude to the fact that i havent played with haku for a long time, so unless youre not actually reading the things you directly quoted, im actually unsure why you seem to be angry at me for pointing out something about haku? it seems like a really sudden and out of place gut defend

RE: reading your intentions:
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4672766)
I feel now is as good a time as any to note that in reading Daikyi specifically I get the feeling that he's trying to keep an open mind on the slot despite personal reservations towards the player, which seems like it would come more from a townie mindset than a scum one if true

RE: being "angry"
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4672767)
I get it fam I know it was your first post on the topic, but one post builds on another pretty quick and next thing you know you've got a mountain. You've seen it before, especially where he's concerned. Better to stop it early, no?


So, my dear YoshL,
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daikyi (Post 4672787)
unless youre not actually reading the things you directly quoted, im actually unsure why you seem to be angry at me for pointing out something


star-crossed 05-2-2019 05:13 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Well congratulations, you got a reaction. So you think I should town lean Lar?

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 05:14 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4672779)
Can you give me an example of YoshL's towny things that you saw he was thinking of? Just curious

@Raeko this was written to you

flashflash account 05-2-2019 05:15 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
I probably just sheep Wolfe this game no way he's a wolf

Daikyi 05-2-2019 05:19 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
the tone you used was initially very harsh, so i interpreted it as anger. there was little separation of addressing gradiant and i, so things melded together.

the way that youre trying to belittle me is also kinda toxic and makes me want to interact with you less as well. theres honestly better ways to communicate than trying to be ultra snide and shitty tbh

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 05:26 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradiant (Post 4672801)
by this, i mean the rest of your thoughts so far compared to 'i like shado'

This is a great indication of actual scumhunting. Granted, it's wrong, but highlights attention paid to detailed observation in what seems to be an effort to find connections between players

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 05:33 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daikyi (Post 4672831)
the tone you used was initially very harsh, so i interpreted it as anger. there was little separation of addressing gradiant and i, so things melded together.

the way that youre trying to belittle me is also kinda toxic and makes me want to interact with you less as well. theres honestly better ways to communicate than trying to be ultra snide and shitty tbh

I understand that. I don't think I was toxic but I'm sorry (to offend) if I came off that way.

My main point was that you had said I needed to read your intentions after I had already tried reading your intentions and thought you came out looking better for it.

In terms of anger, I completely understand why you thought I was angry. I do get frustrated in and out of game with people memeing about how much they think Haku sucks. In a lot of cases, Haku is better than those players and one of the biggest limiting factors on his play imo is that he doesn't have the confidence to actually lead without being excessively self-detrimental because he's distinctly aware of said comments. I just wanted to stop it before the toxicity of those memes took over thread, as they have before in both game and postgame

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 05:37 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daikyi (Post 4672810)
my initial thought was potentially a w/w, because i dont remember shado ever like, agressively trying to get shade off of someone

I guess I just addressed this. Some players even in this game can attest to my thoughts on the Haku memery

Gradiant 05-2-2019 05:37 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4672832)
This is a great indication of actual scumhunting. Granted, it's wrong, but highlights attention paid to detailed observation in what seems to be an effort to find connections between players

how do you know it's wrong when i'm asking about mml's ideas?

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 05:38 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4672830)
I probably just sheep Wolfe this game no way he's a wolf

I almost wish we weren't married 'cause I hate that I can picture the expression you had while typing this and thinking "I called it" after lTWG

Gradiant 05-2-2019 05:40 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Really don't care for how stuck up you're acting now. You didn't play like that my first couple games with you

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 05:45 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradiant (Post 4672836)
how do you know it's wrong when i'm asking about mml's ideas?

Is that what you were asking? *His* ideas?

What I liked and what I thought was scumhunting about it was that you seemed to be looking for connections between scum when you noted that he had expressed his thoughts wholly on everything else in that post except for "I like that Shado is doing stuff". In that, to me, the connotation of a vague, swept-aside townlean in a post where everything else is explained points towards a possible w/w connection.

That's why I said it's wrong.


Is that not what you were noting/asking?

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 05:48 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradiant (Post 4672838)
Really don't care for how stuck up you're acting now. You didn't play like that my first couple games with you

I really don't know what I said to rub you the wrong way or get you to think I'm stuck up, but I hope the feeling fades 'cause I remember you being one of my fave / funnest players to play with in those games

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 05:50 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Players of interest:

mellon_collie
MML
inDheart


in that order atm. Be back in a bit

Gradiant 05-2-2019 05:53 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4672839)
Is that what you were asking? *His* ideas?

What I liked and what I thought was scumhunting about it was that you seemed to be looking for connections between scum when you noted that he had expressed his thoughts wholly on everything else in that post except for "I like that Shado is doing stuff". In that, to me, the connotation of a vague, swept-aside townlean in a post where everything else is explained points towards a possible w/w connection.

That's why I said it's wrong.


Is that not what you were noting/asking?

Im asking him regarding what he said and you're telling me i'm wrong.

Gradiant 05-2-2019 05:54 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4672840)
I really don't know what I said to rub you the wrong way or get you to think I'm stuck up, but I hope the feeling fades 'cause I remember you being one of my fave / funnest players to play with in those games

You're acting very 'I'm better than you this game', just dial it back

Gradiant 05-2-2019 05:56 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradiant (Post 4672842)
Im asking him regarding what he said and you're telling me i'm wrong.

Like, I could be saying before that you were town, and it would still be weird that he said he liked you for 'doing stuff'. I didn't point it out solely because i felt off about you beforehand. But you go straight into saying i'm doing good scumhunting but i'm wrong when you weren't being asked about it.

ShadoWolfe 05-2-2019 06:08 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradiant (Post 4672845)
Like, I could be saying before that you were town, and it would still be weird that he said he liked you for 'doing stuff'. I didn't point it out solely because i felt off about you beforehand. But you go straight into saying i'm doing good scumhunting but i'm wrong when you weren't being asked about it.

It was the first alignment indicative thing I thought I had gotten from you all game, so I was making a note of it as a town indication because it seemed that you were trying to make connections. You're telling me now that I read into it wrong and that you were just asking him to elaborate. That's fine and fair, but don't go thinking I said it was good scumhunting just to pat your back or anything. That'd would be demeaning to both of us when all it was was just me grabbing at something I thought I could read you with

Gradiant 05-2-2019 06:17 PM

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4672846)
That's fine and fair, but don't go thinking I said it was good scumhunting just to pat your back or anything.

knock this shit off. that's the kind of stuff i was talking about when it comes to your attitude this game.

I was asking mml to elaborate. You said i was wrong. That is what happened.


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