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I'm down for star I guess

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TOOS you in the CABOOS

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I'll place my stance on Xel and guess at this point that they're town.

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if you're just going to be this edgy I'll replace out with zero issues

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this is weird raeko doesn't listen to me super often
like u voted bugkid over lewdy recently and there was another semi-recent time

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uhh??

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its the only real read ive had in this admittedly short time and i've been absent minded but yeah

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wew boy uh

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might just kill xel that weirds me out a lot, sorry if you're town raeko but it was kinda weird

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don't worry xelly boi you get a pass now

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Vote Count:
star-crossed (02) thesunfan, mellonxcollie
SubaruPoptart (02)- Charu, star-crossed
Charu (01)- SubaruPoptart
XelNya (01)- FreezinIce
thesunfan (01)- Roundbox

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star

self pres

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xel

Bing Bong

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I like my vote

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im literally in the middle of a bunch of stuff irl like my dog freaking out and i just need a real vote lol ur paranoid af

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Man, no other poptart votes?

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VOTE COUNT

XelNya (03) FreezinIce, thesunfan, star-crossed
star-crossed (02) mellonxcollie, XelNya
SubaruPoptart (02) Charu, Choof
Charu (01)- SubaruPoptart
thesunfan (01) RoundBox

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*BING BONG BING* WELL NOW, IT SEEMS YOU HAVE ALL PUT YOUR HEADS TOGETHER AND HAVE COME TO A DECISION... BY THE POWER INVESTED IN ME, I HEREBY YEET THIS PASSENGER OFF THIS TRAIN
*BONG BING BONG*

XelNya has been softly thrown off the TWG Train...

He was



NIGHT ONE BEGINS NOW

IF YOU HAVE NIGHT ACTIONS, SEND THEM TO YOUR CONDUCTOR VIA DISCORD OR PM

DAY ONE SHALL BEGIN AT 7AM SERVER TIME ON MAY 5TH 2021

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*BING BONG BING* IT SEEMS AS IF SOMEONE HAS
DIED... OH WELL, THAT'S OKAY... I'LL JUST HIT THIS BUTTON AND THEY'LLJUST GO AWAY
*BONG BING BONG*

In the night...

Charu has died..

He was...

DAY ONE HAS NOW BEGUN. PASSENGERS MAY POST AGAIN.

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Rip the berd

He memed too close to the sun

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Also that xel hit feels good

Thatll teach u to poke me in the eye

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Due to the mechanics of the game im clearing everyone else on xels wagon till f3 at the very least

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Charu kill seems like a role read gone horribly wrong

The last wolf shouldve have attacked xels wagon cause imo clearing people on it was the obvious thing to do

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My raw gut read has the last wolf between subaru and roundbox

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Im leaning subaru atm but i dont want to get too far ahead of myself without hearing some other opnions

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FUCKIN NAILED HIM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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well now we know why xel spent a majority of the day posting the way he did
but it's frustrating because he had practically zero real interaction with anyone else

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I think I'm alright with subaru atm but I'm still looking through the thread for interactions

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this is tentative but if that charu kill did indeed come from subaru it was a reaaaaaaally bad kill

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how do I parse this

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by which I mean it looks bad for subaru

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It makes star look like as close to lock town in my mind as im willing to give another player this early.

Star being the one to hammer xel while xel is self presing onto star in a game with 2 wolves.

They are never both wolves here. Like 999/1000 confidence on this one

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Well technically not hammer but thats what i call the deciding vote in my mind

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Sunfan is like...950/1000 town read on my confidence scale. He had a vote on star and switched it to xel at the last second. When star was the lead wagon. He is practically the architect of xels death in a way. The only reason my confidence isnt as high as star is because he had no way of knowing that star would also switch to xel.

But this is largely moot. They are both close to lock clear in my mind

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This is all framed on the backdrop that either of them could have chosen to vote subaru since he was also a legit wagon but chose not to

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Maybe i should replace my roundbox sus with raeko

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I agree with you on star, not sure I agree with you on sunfan tho
I think sunfan's still somewhat null but I haven't played with him in a very long time so idr how he plays

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which now that I'm looking back over eod, this might have been the intent coming from a wolf who isn't subaru lol shit

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With subaru at 2 votes and xel (his supposed partner) at 1, does wolf sunfan put his partner in a kitb with 1 min left in the day?

I really dont think so

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When he already had his vote parked on a comfortable majority with star crossed being at 3 at the time of the switch?

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I don't remember, are kitb a default
I didn't see anything about kitb in teh op

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When votes are tied at eod it's always a kitb.

Someone randomly dies between them

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This is mostly just a brain exercise for me since like i said they are both close to fully cleared. Just helping me think back on what happened

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hmm I suppose most people wouldn't want to make a play like killing their only wolf partner d0 with a seer still potentially alive. if you miss the seer n1 and get checked lol gg
tho generally speaking I think sunfan might be the kind of player who could pull this off

just making sure because I know I've played games without it

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so I'll put sunfan at somewhat green, star gets a pass unless they're checked imo
I'll need to hear from other ppl

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I took a quick glance at xel's post history and really all I can definitively say is this:
he never interacted with star outside of the self pres, and for the most part the only non-fluff posts he made were between myself and freezin
what an annoying post history, fuck

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specifically because we both had votes on him super early

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time 4 work and I'll actually be doing the covid vaccine today

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Looking at raekos eod i don't really see anything that tips me off as suspicious. Ill probably have to do more work tonget something solid here

Roundbox i was gut suspicious of based on tone leading up to eod

Subaru i was gut suspicious of based on them playing the ignorance card a bunch and giving off the same vibe as lewdy in the last game. Not a very solid read but unless they actually spill the beans today its what i have

Choof is getting a town read based on tone atm even though technically they left the door open for xel at eod which looks pretty bad in hindsight lol

Sunfan and star i covered

Thats where im at atm

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Dont think this will be a very hard game to win unless I've fucked up really bad somewhere

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Im gonna try not to sleep through eod this time

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OK so I'd like to clear this up rn, Assuming it was thought that I said for nobody to vote, that's not what I said at all. Ofc there'd've been a vote last night I was just asking if it would've been the end of the world if I was the only one not to vote last night.

I also don't really understand what this means, I never really saw any conversation with choof but why would me not responding to whatever convo there was indicate me as a wolf?

Also what was it that you picked up?

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Cuz whatever it is you picked up I sure as hell didn't

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Subaru, I think you still dont understand why it is antitown to abstain from voting except in rare circumstances.

Since there is a bit of a lull, allow me to clear this up

First we have to go back to the basics: what is the point of TWG? The point of TWG is to catch wolves. As town, the only tool you have to catch wolves is your vote. This vots needs to be utilized. It is your responsibility as a town player to utilize your vote every phase to attempt to vote for someone you find suspicious. Assuming you are town, failing to vote gives more power to the wolves because they now control a slightly higher majority of the votes by virtue of your abscence. They can now swing bigger wagons and have more comfortable margins of error when stacking votes due to the absence of town voting power.

Thus by itself should be enough to explain it but let me go one step farther and come at it from another angle. Why would you be afraid to vote someone? As a town there is of course the real possiblity you are wrong. However the next day you can explain your thoughts and have a discussion with the rest of town on why you voted and by having this dialog about your vote, even if you wre dead wrong, you will help people understand you better and by extension help them town read you.

Wolves are not interest in this at all.

Wolves don't want to have a discussion about why they voted for who they did because it provides another avenue for them to be attacked and for people to make connections. If wolves could get away with it, they would rather not vote at all. Voting to them is nothing but a ticking time bomb that can be used to expose them if things go poorly. The weapon of a wolf is primarily the night kill. The day kill only exists for them to cause confusion and protect their partners.

I hope this adequately explained why not voting is antitown

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Some spelling errors since im on mobile but nothing too drastic

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Yee, this makes perfect sense. Biggest reason I didn't wanna vote D0 was because I had zero reason TO vote anyone. I didn't find anyone particularly suspicious past what other people had said, and when asked why I voted someone I didn't want my only reason to be "I just sheeped <x>" cuz in my mind that doesn't really seem enough. Which is why I voted Charu yesterday since they had voted me earlier in the phase; simple reason of just reciprocating a vote, since pretty much nobody was anything other than null for me yesterday.

I'm more able to do stuff when a flip happens, cuz then I can go back and see what X said to Y and gleam some stuff from there.

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well now that charu's dead he can't confirm whether or not I picked up on what he picked up, but here are my thoughts

this one seems like you got ruffled somehow, considering that the post that you're quoting wasn't directed at you initially
and then the bolded bit seems... weird? what's the point in saying this lol

and this follow up reads like you realized you may seem scummy for post 102

here's the first mind meld, assuming this was a mind meld to begin with

and then here, this kinda reads like "ugh fine I guess I'll play the town game then but I don't want to"

second, or first, dunno really


tbqh you could be too wolfy to be a wolf too, but I'm less inclined to believe that than roundbox was when he said that about freezin (given that I have a slight town lean on freezin atm). there's also the charu kill which imo makes you look bad

but I'm about to head out to get vaccinated so I'll be unavailable for a few hours. will continue to think on this, hopefully we get more ppl in teh thread soon (raeko where u AT)

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tru why bother voting when you can just night kill people

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Even if you have no leads d0 Subaru u need to vote for people. Your vote will give info for wagon analysis and possibly cause other votes to move which could reveal information the next day, and thats the absolute worst case scenario i can think of which should tell u how valuable even a "wasted" vote really is if its town sided.

99% of the time not voting is bad unless special game mechanics are involved

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With the charu kill, has it happened that wolves do one thing to try to frame a town? Cuz honestly I think that's what's happening here. With Xel being gone and a confirmed wolf, why would I kill Charu, who had only one vote, with it being me. On top of that, the person who'd voted for me since like the very beginning. I realize now that it was a serious vote, instead of a kinda "banter" vote like I'd thought it was initially.

And with the Charu vote like I said, I did it because I didn't have anyone who was particularly wolfy to me, including Charu. I just placed a vote on him because at the time my thought process was: A.) He'd voted for me already, so why not reciprocate. B.) I was told that I had to vote, and that abstaining was a bad idea, so place a vote on someone who had no risk of getting voted out.

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I don't see why I'd do this as the only wolf left, since that would 9000% incriminate me and only me. If I were the wolf I would have shot somewhere outside myself, which is what I'd imagine literally anyone else in this situation would have done.

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Tbh i think you're just wolfing here subaru.

You have a unnatural fixation on how you votes and posts will be seen by others that is really wolfy imo especially the 3rd post from subaru that choof quoted in his big post.

Though i hope youll take my advice in mind next time you play if you roll town.

speaking personally i think charu is a kill you would make in this situation, its a very basic "take the heat off me / yolo seer shot" kill that ignores the fact that xels wagon should have been targeted. Aka the kind of kill id expect someone in your position to make

So yeah subaru

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The charu vote i have little problem with, its the posturing that is happening around it that is making me raise my eyebrow

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I think this is something you can easily say now that 2 different people pointed it out today, but you were probably not thinking last night when u made that kill

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:\ I've always had a fixation on how my votes will be seen, is the issue here. I'm definitely gonna be taking the advice this phase, but I really don't see how killing one of two people voting me when there was a whole wagon to shoot would take the heat off me whatsoever. It's only brought the heat to me.

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Well if you want to really take the heat off youll have to put in some work and find someone who deserves the axe more than you.

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If you do due dilligence and make a compelling case against someone i will switch my vote, i do have an open mind and a few more suspects.

If you coast for the rest of the day or just defend yourself then my vote isnt moving. Thats where im at

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Unless i go to sleep and wake up and have a brilliant deduction.

On that note im going to sleep. See ya in around 6 hours or so

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Hi hi

ok so my eod/vote wasn't great, that's 100% on me, don't really have any other explanation than what I already said. I was busy with IRL stuff and kept running back to my PC to check TWG and just wanted to get a vote out that wasn't a meme vote from earlier

Also can I just say how much I HATE these phase start and end times

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I'm liking Freezi here, I don't necessarily agree with his conclusion about Subaru but I like his soft clears of star and sunfan and just think his head space seems towny

but then again, if choof is also picking up on wolfiness from Subaru maybe I am just missing something

also hi choof

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Hey good morning. Can I just say, every time I think about end of day yesterday, I cannot stop laughing? I do not think I have ever hanged a wolf I was not even wolf reading before. sun fan, even though you changed your vote, I do not forgive you for almost getting me killed with 8 minutes left at the end of the day. You are on my personal shitlist. Hahah.

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So wait was this the convo that star was talking about when they voted me last phase? Cuz I really don't get what was significant about it for them to do so

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No it wasn't. I don't really think it's the most significant thing to read you from now that more has happened anyways, but I will find some time later to answer your question since I can tell it is perplexing you.

Indeed, RIP. I think it must be an attempted role kill, because Charu was even defending Xel at the last minute and trying to encourage a different wagon.

I guess the counter-argument is that the seer creates more clears, and a bold play helps with the deficit the remaining wolf is in.

I am just curious, what did you mean by this? It seems random compared to your previous post about him.

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I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for a brief moment due to raeko being weirdo and kinda his response to me telling him he had 15 minutes left
which yes was edgy but in that moment felt like angy town

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Votes at Half 6 server time
Charu (02)- mellonxcollie, SubaruPoptart
XelNya (01)- FreezinIce
SubaruPoptart (01)- Charu
mellonxcollie (01)- star-crossed
thesunfan (01)- Roundbox

Something I remember thinking at the time, is that in all my TWG career this is the day end where I had the least idea of who was going to die. And I hoped that that ended up being a bad thing for the wolves. In hindsight, I guess it was. Anyway:

Some people are still memeing, and roundbox is trying to pressure sun fan, which choof is discussing with him.
Xel shows up at 6:40.
choof votes Xel and implies the other options are Subaru, Charu, Raeko. Puts Subaru and Xel in KITB 2-2.
I join Charu on Subaru.
choof unvotes upon seeing Xel, 6:45.
sun fan says "high confidence" that I am a wolf and votes me at :52.
roundbox jokes that Xel can be on his "drop list" too, due to a joke Xel made around this time.
Charu wants a vote count. Some people are trying to figure out why sun fan actually thinks I am wolfing.
raeko joins in on :56, putting me in KITB with Subaru.
Charu says he thinks Xel and I are both town.
sun fan says he is spooked by raeko agreeing with him.
roundbox has still been grilling sun fan and is confused by me being voted.
raeko basically says a bad vibe on me is the only thing she has had all game and also she is dealing with her dog.
:58 sun fan says he might kill Xel.

Last 2 minutes
Vote Count:
star-crossed (02) thesunfan, mellonxcollie
SubaruPoptart (02)- Charu, star-crossed
Charu (01)- SubaruPoptart
XelNya (01)- FreezinIce
thesunfan (01)- Roundbox

:59 Xel votes me for self pres, putting me at 3 votes, subaru at 2, while Xel is still on 1.
And then sun fan and I both vote Xel. sun fan's put Xel in KITB with Subaru, and I put Xel above Subaru.
roundbox quotes sun fan's vote switch just to say "I like my vote."
:59 choof votes Subaru.
(Subaru and Freezin are afk this entire time.)

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Too much talk about the reason behind Charu's death, I think
I swear that I post about night kill theories being too wishy-washy and therefore not worth sharing almost every game

I thought I had sunfan, but lol no
His vote looks good given his swapping between Cel and Star at the end. While I felt like his vote on xel was bad initially, swapping to it at the end there is not a wolfy sunfan move. I just don't see it.
A little of the same with freezin. Freezin could have made a major miscalculation with placing his vote if Xel is his partner, but who the fuck goes to sleep like that after admitting it?
Too stupid to be wolfy? Too violent of a bus to make sense? Neither impossible, but neither probable. Reevaluate f3 along with sunfan if needed.
Star acted in self pres, so that vote is unreadable. They had that vote on raeko beforehand, but that's about it.