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WirryWoo 08-28-2020 08:44 AM

Re: Permissions List and Information v8
 
Secured two additional permissions: The Brooklyn Duo and Elemer.

For The Brooklyn Duo, similar conditions apply with Emile Pandolfi:



For Elemer, I received permissions to step Adrenalina which will be submitted to the Sept/Oct 2020 batch.


kjwkjw 09-7-2020 01:00 PM

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It seems that we are able to use Mitchie M's music for FFR. Mitchie M is a Vocaloid artist well-known for his works that tune Miku and other Vocaloids to generate singing that is quite realistic and human-like.

On the page for the inquiry form on his official website, it says the following:



This translates to:
Quote:

Regarding inquiries about song usage, if
1) the purpose is nonprofit
2) you receive no fees from the listeners or audience, and
3) no compensation is paid to the performers,
you may use the songs freely, and no inquiry through this form is necessary.

XelNya 09-7-2020 01:45 PM

Re: Permissions List and Information v8
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kjwkjw (Post 4742318)
It seems that we are able to use Mitchie M's music for FFR. Mitchie M is a Vocaloid artist well-known for his works that tune Miku and other Vocaloids to generate singing that is quite realistic and human-like.

On the page for the inquiry form on his official website, it says the following:



This translates to:

For reference on this, should we probably avoid the Project Mirai / Project Diva songs due to them having some sort of deal for the games they're in?

I know you're no expert but probably something that should be addressed sooner than later

Also awesome pick up regardless.

WirryWoo 09-9-2020 08:50 PM

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Secured another permission from Hedegaard. Awesome music. I redacted the download link containing all of his music which he kindly sent to me in the email. If you are interested in stepping one of his songs, feel free to ask me for the .mp3 file.


hi19hi19 09-10-2020 11:18 AM

Re: Permissions List and Information v8
 
Rasmus Hedegaard makes excellent music but in my mind and probably many others, he is cursed forever to be "that guy with the Smoke Weed Everyday remix"

Rapta 09-21-2020 09:35 AM

Re: Permissions List and Information v8
 
Geoxor Blanket Permissions!


T-Force 09-22-2020 07:00 PM

Re: Blanket and Limited Artist Permissions (M-Z) v8
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noname219 (Post 4273002)
Rainbowdragoneyes [ Chiptune / Metal / Dance ] [Permission Revoked: 09/14/2020]

Quoted from the OP for visibility.

qrrbrbirbel 10-5-2020 11:20 AM

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hidden machine perms!


dibs on strength v1 <3

RadiantVibe 10-21-2020 02:04 AM

Re: Permissions List and Information v8
 
If anyone wants to use my music go for it :)

https://soundcloud.com/sspenst

Let me know if you want an mp3 for anything

noname219 10-23-2020 03:06 PM

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Currently making everything up-to-date and will update this post whenever something is missing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost_Medley (Post 4743399)
I'm discussing with Toni Leys about a potential limited permission. [...]

As I understand it, the permission is not final, but keep us informed if you have any clearer response by Toni Leys about what is allowed to use. I've added Toni in the list with a mention to ask directly before using any songs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gold stinger (Post 4740953)
https://www.bmsoffighters.net/bofxvi/rule.html
Might be worth including with BMSofFighters 'open source' permission, to avoid another long 2-day discussion on validity of 'open source' permissions in the future.

Stuff sent into BMSofFighters isn't necessarily free to use via copyright, but it requires that the file uploaded can be redistributed by pretty much everyone without changes. It's still being discussed and trying to reach out to see what others think about BMS music and its validity in permissions as a whole.

Been wanting to add The BMS of Fighters but haven't been able to figure out where to find and how to explain the validity of the permission and I recall multiple conversations at some point about that. Gonna have to do some more research before adding.

edit : Was missing some earlier permissions in the thread (but not on the wiki), those were added. Everything is up to date as of now.

Ghost_Medley 10-23-2020 09:04 PM

Re: Permissions List and Information v8
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noname219 (Post 4747861)
As I understand it, the permission is not final, but keep us informed if you have any clearer response by Toni Leys about what is allowed to use. I've added Toni in the list with a mention to ask directly before using any songs.

The case for Toni Leys is currently "no reply" since the last screenshot, but I have sent a reminder email and am waiting for further info. Until then, I suggest not having it listed as "ask to use songs" since there is nothing confirmed.

gold stinger 10-23-2020 10:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by noname219 (Post 4747861)
Been wanting to add The BMS of Fighters but haven't been able to figure out where to find and how to explain the validity of the permission and I recall multiple conversations at some point about that. Gonna have to do some more research before adding.

Keep it as-is. Although, it should be updated to reflect that it's not permissions based on the music being open source. I believe it's getting treated as the 'takedown' option atm. People can submit BMSofFighters-specific music still, but if the music authors ask FFR to take them down, then they come down. No different to if we have permissions already from someone currently, and they decide to revoke their own permissions later. This is why they're still treated as permission. If we take down BMSofFighters-related content completely, then it means hundreds of songs will become disabled.

Currently, if you want music from other BMS-related venues, then you should provide proof that either the event host requires the submissions to be royalty free/CC permission'd/etc., or the venue host requires events to agree to something similar.

It's still heavily in the works however. We have permission from the person running BMSofFighters, but beyond actual exclaimers & some stuff that changes based on translation (It's in JP, not Eng), it's not a informed conclusion on the subject. I've contacted Synthlight about it, but not much on the table as of late.

Bolth mannn 10-25-2020 05:20 AM

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Hey guys, I'm involved in two music projects, and you guys have full permission to use any current and upcoming songs from the following two handles (PM me if you need any mp3s):

Bligh (Indie Pop/Rock): https://www.blighband.com/
11:51 (Alternative/Ballad): https://www.facebook.com/1151official

Bolth mannn 10-25-2020 06:23 AM

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Also, what are legalities surrounding artists we have permission for releasing cover songs of other artists that we don't?

gold stinger 10-25-2020 09:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4747939)
Also, what are legalities surrounding artists we have permission for releasing cover songs of other artists that we don't?

cover songs are someone's own interpretation of a previously existing work (like a remix), of which there are many in FFR whom we have permissions for, but not the original work.

As long as you're using the cover or remix, and not the original if we don't have permission for the original. Not to be mistaken with reproducing the original work.

noname219 10-25-2020 01:59 PM

Re: Permissions List and Information v8
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gold stinger (Post 4747940)
cover songs are someone's own interpretation of a previously existing work (like a remix), of which there are many in FFR whom we have permissions for, but not the original work.

As long as you're using the cover or remix, and not the original if we don't have permission for the original. Not to be mistaken with reproducing the original work.

There's of course an exception to this, the cover must keep the same lyrics. A translation for example while keeping the same arrangements would be deemed a substantial change (derivative work) and would require permission from the original copyright holder.

Remixes are something else, by law, you need to get permission from the copyright holder (and in our case, to use it in-game).
In the case of remixes, if we don't have permission from the original artist, *technically* we could receive cease and desist letters. There's some leeway since we are non-profit.


The key word here is "derivative work" :
a work based upon one or more preexisting works, such as a translation, musical arrangement, dramatization, fictionalization, motion picture version, sound recording, art reproduction, abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted. A work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications which, as a whole, represent an original work of authorship, is a "derivative work.

gold stinger 10-26-2020 10:41 AM

Re: Permissions List and Information v8
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noname219 (Post 4747944)
There's of course an exception to this, the cover must keep the same lyrics. A translation for example while keeping the same arrangements would be deemed a substantial change (derivative work) and would require permission from the original copyright holder.

Remixes are something else, by law, you need to get permission from the copyright holder (and in our case, to use it in-game).
In the case of remixes, if we don't have permission from the original artist, *technically* we could receive cease and desist letters. There's some leeway since we are non-profit.


The key word here is "derivative work" :
a work based upon one or more preexisting works, such as a translation, musical arrangement, dramatization, fictionalization, motion picture version, sound recording, art reproduction, abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted. A work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications which, as a whole, represent an original work of authorship, is a "derivative work.

Was on the assumption that the person we had permissions for was blanket permission unless otherwise stated (as they usually do regarding stuff like this), but yes. This as well.

We can go down a crazy rabbit hole about what is / isn't 'derivative work' and what is fair game on 'remixes'. But without making the breakdown on what is / isn't usable complicated, it's ok as long as it's blanket permissions, or there's no restrictions on the content they've made. Creative Commons permissions are OK, as long as they don't have a ND (No Derivatives) extension to the license, unless the version of the license is 1.0. (99% of people use 2.0, 3.0, or 4.0 licenses now, because 1.0 is massively outdated due to a flaw, so good luck finding one.)

qrrbrbirbel 11-1-2020 12:32 AM

Re: Permissions List and Information v8
 
https://i.imgur.com/YJp7iWg.png

hidden machine perms!

xXOpkillerXx 11-11-2020 04:01 PM

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Zeppy perms get ! (a creator from Clone Hero)


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