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psychoangel691 08-14-2019 06:21 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart (Post 4693273)
By the way I don't think I'm using "null" right, it's when you don't have a definitive read on their role/alignment right? They just exist to you.

I'd say that's pretty accurate for null

psychoangel691 08-14-2019 06:22 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
I don't like Antori bandwagoning sunfan's precarious vote

the sun fan 08-14-2019 06:26 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by psychoangel691 (Post 4693270)
I'm still reading today's stuff but would I be nuts to say it's a Xel/antori wolf combo here. I mean traction started on antori, xel protects with a vague "he's got an important role" Then now he blocked me last night? Am I confused how the roles work here?

yes, you would be nuts to say this
we know xel targeted antori n1
its insane to do that to your teammate

SubaruPoptart 08-14-2019 07:12 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
So lemme get a recap: What's our standings on Antori, and what are our standings on Prec right now? Because my standings right now for Antori are Null/Wolf-Lean, and for Prec they're just a null for me right now. It's like that Change my Mind sign guy.

MixMasterLar 08-14-2019 07:27 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
Not that a compliment means much from me but I like these proddings from SunFan

And Xel, I legit said I got no results back when I went to check Pyschoangel first thing this phase...first post, first sentence.

Come on man

Xelicopter 08-14-2019 07:38 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4693293)
Not that a compliment means much from me but I like these proddings from SunFan

And Xel, I legit said I got no results back when I went to check Pyschoangel first thing this phase...first post, first sentence.

Come on man

what is this even responding to

like i'm thrown for a bit of a loop here, and xelicopters don't exactly do rolls here

I don't wanna crash

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Xelicopter 08-14-2019 08:07 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
Like lar let me be clear with you where my headspace is at

these are the two worlds for this game I'll accept right now

1. the sun fan
2. Xiz [Lynched Day 3]
3. Funnygurl555 [Killed Night 2]
4. MixMasterLar
5. roundbox
6. Shadow_God_10 WOLF [Lynched Day 1]
7. SubaruPoptart
8. DaBackPack TOWN [Killed Night 1]
9. XelNya/Xelicopter
10. HateandHatred [Killed Night 3]
11. Antori
12. jessiebessie [Killed Night 3]
13. Precarious
14. dragonmegaXX WOLF [Lynched Day 2]
15. Svaz [ModKilled]
16. _Zenith_ [Killed Night 2]
17. psychoangel691

There are six fucking people this game can have as the final wolves

1. the sun fan
2. MixMasterLar
3. roundbox
4. Antori
5. Precarious
6. psychoangel691

Any combinations of these, I'd believe.

If I use actions in game to solidify some of the "less likely to be wolves based on votes"

I'd rip only sunfan out of the pile. Mostly for the actions of D1. We don't net shadow for free there without him. We just don't.

Also there's this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4693263)
unvote
I don't want prec to get wrung up early or anything

If greg was a wolf, he wouldn't be hinting at what I think he's getting at.

1. MixMasterLar
2. roundbox
3. Antori
4. Precarious
5. psychoangel691

Here's the issue. There are TWO goddamned doctors alive.

One is claiming he forgot to send in an action.

Antori I've been pulling for you all game but I honestly think you fucking lied to us. The only reason you don't doctor high priority towns is because you're a wolf.

ON TOP OF THAT you're gameplay is full of sheeping, and lacks any standout choices made strictly by yourself, even your precarious vote right now feels like you're literally appealing to greg because you know town's following him.

The other one is roundbox.

Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4693226)
claiming n1/n3 doctor
docs both on you sunfan for your towniness (shadow_god vote)

and I apologize for not thinking shit was fucky yesterday

because like
where the FUCK did this subaru push come from

THIS. I trust. A lot more than Antori "forgetting." Everything about the tone is right, roundbox may have played a more passive game, but the work is there if he'd had less irl in the way. I feel based off both ltwg meta and typical town pr meta he's had in other games, if he'd had more time he'd have grabbed town's balls till they followed him.

We get this:

1. MixMasterLar
2. Antori
3. Precarious
4. psychoangel691

Given my role block on kayla last night, I'm knocking her off the list. She couldn't have made the kill and isn't worth it right now. I don't even care.

We arrive at final two pretty much.

1. MixMasterLar
2. Antori
3. Precarious

The issue is sorting out if you've made more town aligned moves than wolf aligned moves.

This is where the brain is going rn

the sun fan 08-14-2019 08:15 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
xel, antori is always telling the truth about forgetting; he's never lying
unless he's fakeclaiming, which you know he isn't, then he actually just forgot to send in an action

wolfchat can proxy actions, you have subaru as always town on your list, so wolves were afraid of n2 vig, so they would've targeted one of their own

antori isn't lying about that
he's telling the truth

similarly, regardless of roundbox's alignment, I don't think he is lying about targeting me both nights /if/ he is the n1/n3 doctor

Precarious 08-14-2019 08:24 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
N2 Watcher here. I can confirm Zenith was visited by Subaru, so that...more or less confirms what everyone had accepted anyway.

I think I'm the last person to claim? If that's the case, then someone's lying about their role--two kills necessitates a vigilante, who by virtue of lying can be assumed to be a wolf.

I'm still on Antori personally and working on a case, although admittedly Sun Fan's explanation gives me a little pause. Ironically, what he describes as a town meta is a large part of my case, because it feels blatantly scummy to me.

Precarious 08-14-2019 08:25 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
Kind of rereading right now, but I'll be paying attention to the thread as well.

the sun fan 08-14-2019 08:29 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
why did you not claim n2 watcher yesterday

the sun fan 08-14-2019 08:31 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Precarious (Post 4693309)
N2 Watcher here. I can confirm Zenith was visited by Subaru, so that...more or less confirms what everyone had accepted anyway.

I think I'm the last person to claim? If that's the case, then someone's lying about their role--two kills necessitates a vigilante, who by virtue of lying can be assumed to be a wolf.

I'm still on Antori personally and working on a case, although admittedly Sun Fan's explanation gives me a little pause. Ironically, what he describes as a town meta is a large part of my case, because it feels blatantly scummy to me.

we know xel targeted antori with a role cop check
if antori is scum, he is either /exactly/ with xel, which I think is ridiculous
or he is the n2/n4 doctor like he is saying

so he's never the n3 vigi without some serious tinfoil worlds

the sun fan 08-14-2019 08:31 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
the world where everyone is telling the truth about their role involves sven shooting jessie last night and boy

I sure hope someone is lying

the sun fan 08-14-2019 08:36 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
sunfan n2/n4 jailor- n2 roundbox
xiz n2/n4 tracker- n2 sunfan to roundbox
funnygurl- (allegedly visited no one n2)
MML n3 alignment cop- checked kayla; was roleblocked
roundbox n1/n3 doc- n1 sunfan, n3 sunfan
shadow_god-
SubaruPoptart n2 vig- Zenith
DBP-
Xel JOAT1- n1 Antori "Doctor", n2 tracks funnygurl nowhere, n3 roleblocks kayla
Sven-
Antori n2/n4 Doctor- n2 forgot to save
jessiebessie n1 watcher- DBP was visited by Zenith and Cocoa
Precarious n2 watcher- Zenith was visited by Subaru
Cocoa-
Svaz- (probably the n2 alignment cop you just have to give me this one)
Zenith Voyeur- (possibly JOAT2 that used Voyeur first?) n1 DBP was Investigated and Killed
psychoangel n2/n4 roleblocker- antori n2

Roles unaccounted for:
n2 alignment cop
n3 vig
n1/n3 tracker
n1/n3 jailkeeper
n1/n3 roleblocker
n1-n3 role cop
JOAT2

the sun fan 08-14-2019 08:47 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
some things from the claims:

the world cannot be sunfan/antori or roundbox/antori (There are 0 worlds where these can exist; they do not even exist as tinfoil possibilities without a town lying about their role/who they visited)

sunfan/antori because xiz tracked me to only roundbox and kayla roleblocked antori, but the mafia factional nightkill still happened

roundbox/antori because I jailed roundbox and antori was roleblocked by kayla

Lar CAN be telling the truth along with everyone else if sven was exactly n1/n3 roleblocker OR n1/n3 jailor and targeted MML last night

town probably wins if we lynch a wolf today based on a few things, namely that we have so many n2/n4 actions still floating around

the sun fan 08-14-2019 08:47 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
precarious

why did you not claim watcher yesterday?
why did you watch Zenith?
Did you soft your information at all yesterday?

the sun fan 08-14-2019 08:57 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
oh ok
cya later precarious I guess

the sun fan 08-14-2019 08:58 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
btw, before I get into the DBP readback

antori is literally the worst possible lynch today because he is in the least number of worlds

sunfan/antori does not exist
roundbox/antori does not exist
xelnya/antori is absurdly ridiculous and involves serious scum misplay

SubaruPoptart 08-14-2019 09:01 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
So if no antori worlds exist what other worlds could?

MixMasterLar 08-14-2019 09:03 PM

Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xelicopter (Post 4693296)
what is this even responding to

like i'm thrown for a bit of a loop here, and xelicopters don't exactly do rolls here

I don't wanna crash

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xelicopter (Post 4693251)
wait lar said he was blocked last night

who blocked him

Just leaving this here


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