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Xiz 08-20-2018 06:01 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
out of game post:

posting here because you are really the only people on this site i care about

Double check your health insurance, especially if you a are an independent or 27+
apparently they dropped me for literally 0 reason, and ive been on the phone the past few hours trying to fix it. Apparently it's happened to 2 other friends as well. Check it because it could be very fucking serious.

#america things

the sun fan 08-20-2018 06:21 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
ha, jokes on you I lost coverage when my dad was laid off I have nothing to be worried about atm.

FreezinIce 08-20-2018 06:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4643406)
@freezin
i decided i wanna dance after all

run me through what you were thinkin at eod

also you made this comment to syhto earlier:



which never got picked up again?
The comment @syhto was me noticing she did something I do a lot (vote someone and say I'm leaving the vote there all phase)

Eod was pretty much

>enter thread with like an hour left.
>try to catch up
>people are saying stuff because of course they're saying stuff since it's Eod
>try to react to stuff ppl are saying while catching up.
>fail miserably
>find fishy behavior from sunfan, bring it up
>word battle with sunfan
>decide to ride or die on that cause why not
>gradient shit is happening on the side which I pay no attention to because like mml I skip a lot of stuff he says.
>Eod get

Xiz 08-20-2018 06:54 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4643404)
dog if you think that there's anything going on between her and I that isn't par for the course then you've missed years of her and I playing together
I must have then? I don't know if that's a read i want to use

blindreper1179 08-20-2018 07:05 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4643369)
if a bomb blew up and killed the nonvoters here how many wolves would that be

same question again but for the unvoters
Two at best.

blindreper1179 08-20-2018 07:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4643379)


































































ok i'm reading this one more time

they talk past each other in the early bits of the exchange. funny's calling sunfan not a towny town but a bad vote bc of how other people are talking about him, so the main point of that post isn't really the read on sunfan

the bit about tps' posts is right - fg does agree with tps, but apparently without having read his posts

bolded are the questions she picked out as "weird vibe"

i still don't understand the contradiction gradi identified. the two things he bolded in the post where he did that are consistent. someone please tell me if you actually get it bc i don't

"i think asking me why i voted the way i did would have sufficed. i did leave a naked vote, and it's nai to ask about that really."
phrase that sticks out to me bc gradi doesn't need to ask why the vote when she already explained it some by saying "my vote is staying on you i'm getting a weird vibe from these questions. i don't know what you're trying to get at." gradi's follow-up was "what questions do you mean" and then the whole thing happens. like, from that, is he supposed to divine that that's not the original reason for your vote? he at least wanted to pursue the part of your case he knew about

don't like the further responses after this, like "even if i were contradicting myself" (i can't even see the contradiction; why assume it's there?) and "why aren't you voting for sunfan"

the interaction went bad almost from the start and it fed into their votes on each other

the tone that accompanies them has a sense of stubborn expectation of what she wanted her vote to do and be. there's a hint of wolf in the "sorry" i think, like knowing gradi's town and being apologetic for the apparent tunnel and not wanting to move, but it's not much

guess there's something to be said as well for how little suspicion she's gotten this game, which is ???. someone with a more confident townread please talk to me


Funny is iffy to me because her game plan is the same no matter what she roles. To be honest though, her reason being on gradiant has more umph and value than dbps did. I wouldn't be sad to see her go, but i don't think she is worth a lynch yet.

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:15 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4643409)
out of game post:

posting here because you are really the only people on this site i care about

Double check your health insurance, especially if you a are an independent or 27+
apparently they dropped me for literally 0 reason, and ive been on the phone the past few hours trying to fix it. Apparently it's happened to 2 other friends as well. Check it because it could be very fucking serious.

#america things
this happened to me too

inDheart 08-20-2018 07:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4643411)
The comment @syhto was me noticing she did something I do a lot (vote someone and say I'm leaving the vote there all phase)

Eod was pretty much

>enter thread with like an hour left.
>try to catch up
>people are saying stuff because of course they're saying stuff since it's Eod
>try to react to stuff ppl are saying while catching up.
>fail miserably
>find fishy behavior from sunfan, bring it up
>word battle with sunfan
>decide to ride or die on that cause why not
>gradient shit is happening on the side which I pay no attention to because like mml I skip a lot of stuff he says.
>Eod get
ok this is hilarious

but also seems like you didn't feel pigeonholed to do anything in particular at least

did you have a take on the gradi stuff/do you now

blindreper1179 08-20-2018 07:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4643398)
Gradiants wolf reads were dbp, funny, sun, and ind at the end, so pretty much the entire wagon on him and ind, who was on freezin. I'm surprised nobody picked up on that yet.

I don't think I like the case on DBP that sunfan and ind both did, even though it follows gradian't vote. I wonder like, if they tried to to build momentum there but it was so early in the day it feels more like one of sun/ind are paired with dbp there if dbp is a wolf... they could bus since it's early in the day since there would be a lot of time to hop off, and thats something sunfan does but from how dead the phase has been I don't believe this
I noticed that when I said we should lynch in his pool of choices and the ones who voted him. Didn't think it was a big deal. Although, that huge of an overlap is either huge coincidence or paranoid town, which gradiant is hardly ever paranoid. I still think we're could lynch here.

blindreper1179 08-20-2018 07:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4643407)
he should give reasons not to lynch gradi if he wants to lynch gradi?
Maybe not, maybe yes. But being D1 and grasping on a string, he could of thought it out for a better vote. I just found his push weak, even for D1.

I'll use sunfan for example. He's been posting why he's unsure of you, pretty par for the course for D1/2. DBP was set on wolf for one reason and in D1. I find that sketchy.

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celirra (Post 4643288)
Why is freezin being defaulted to by a bunch of you schmucks
for me it's because of EOD yesterday

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4643304)
Also DBP I thought I was town to you what changed that
you're probably still town

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4643305)
dbp
unrequited love makes me sad

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:32 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
「It is the season of White Album...」

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tps222 (Post 4643322)
You're so full of shit lmao. You and DBP are riding this same logic wave with indheart. I am convinced that 2/3 of you are wolves, and that there is a concerted effort to going against either myself or Sunfan right now without any merit aside from vague feelings.

I'm comfortable leaving my vote on you until EoD at this point.
I'm doing what now??

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celirra (Post 4643333)
I dont know if you're wolfing or not but you're definitely not towning
So I think you're a solid choice if I have no better options (which luckily for you i have a couple of)
this is weird

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4643344)
gradiant isn't unique in his treatment of cel though. like, you focusing on the two of them specifically in your case is bugging me. reading his ISO pretty quickly he only gives two affirmative townreads, on xiz and you, ends up retracting the one on you. most others are a joke

and comparing to how he treats some other unnamed people, take a look at what he says/does about syhto, for instance. similar arm's length holding; makes a post about her not having played in a long time so he has no meta basis to say much, and she's not one of his wolf leans. fits the same type of read pattern; would be a decent match for your theory other than it creates a sort of burgeoning wolf team where gradi's soft defending both

so i'm like, why not talk about how he's reading syhto?

also given perfect blowjob, which has been talked about here a couple times, i think he'd be relatively unafraid to touch his partners and would know to try to interact with them; don't think it would just slip his mind. he's proven he can play to outs, and can very likely do better than the "classic" strat

perhaps it's an effect of what time you managed to come back around, but the read you developed came together in a rush. so i'm factoring that in now, just...it's also back onto gradi, who you'd prior stated a wolf lean on, and in that sense feels "easy"
I don't know how many other ways I have to say "I saw Celery's name several times in Gradiant's ISO and thought it was weird that he didn't really have a read on him"

that's just how it is

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4643366)
I've had enough of you, CHEATBAR

People who make lunches based off of "the nightkill was a frame job" have read too much Christie.
there is never too much Christie

there is too much Queen though

Celirra 08-20-2018 07:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4643428)
there is never too much Christie

there is too much Queen though
Queen is great actually so I disagree

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4643401)
if sun is a wolf i can see funny being more of a partner here, im taking the whole 'i got your back funny' between the two without any merit but i believe funny to be more of a wolf then greg
I think the existence of a wolf daychat makes sunfan/funny wolf team unlikely

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celirra (Post 4643429)
Queen is great actually so I disagree
my dude

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:43 PM
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the existence of day woflchat makes things a little difficult but I think wolves wouldn't openly... communicate like that in the thread

there might be that kind of touch-and-go in a game without daychat but there's no reason to leave unnecessary evidence like that behind in this game thread

Precarious 08-20-2018 07:44 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Okay, I'm basically going to just be posting direct reactions to the whole day basically.

My basic leans are:

Xiz, Cel, DBP, Sun, inD - town

WC, Freezin - null

FG, Blind, TPS - Wolfy

But these reads feel kind of shitty. They're more or less in likelihood of individual anti-town (e.g. someone wolfy is more likely to be a wolf than null, and null than town), but it's still largely just behavioral, and I wouldn't be surprised to find a wolf in my town group. But vacillating aside, that's where I'm at. I'll be making a lot of posts all in a row.

Regarding yesterday, I haven't really seen a lot of discussion regarding possible distributions. Only one NK makes it less likely that there's a SK, but obviously not impossible--a blocked kill could be a thing. At this stage, there's still too little info to piece together what the actual enemy state is, but this is something that should be considered as more information becomes available.

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:44 PM
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I know this reasoning led to the Gradiant mislynch but I still believe it

Precarious 08-20-2018 07:45 PM
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Thoughts on the lynch and the night kill.

The end of the day was, as it often is, a mess. Ironically, the three players that formed the final wagons (multiple votes) were probably my three most town-cleared at the time. That's partially due to my own biases—I tend to town read “towny”/game-active players on D1—but it's weird to me that people immediately moved toward those players. Admittedly, activity invites examination, and therefore suspicion, but that was a weird direction to go.

I was planning a big case against Syhto. Guess not. While Syhto is obviously cleared now, I still find it weird how little engagement there was on the topic—even if people were town-reading, I feel like there should have been more to it.

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4643405)
people keep talking about how they find blind to be pretty similar to previous games and tbh he feels pretty similar to me most of the time

his reasons here are like... a little loose and I suppose that's slightly more indicative of blind!town than anything else (see his read on precarious taking a century to post something being wolfy) but that's mostly making something up for him I don't really know on him

I'm town so don't vote me thanks
I'm starting to think that the best way to get a read on blind is to piss him off

Precarious 08-20-2018 07:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4642959)
Sytho dying seems like pr hunting.
This is how I see it honestly. Having played a wolf in the previous game, our strategy had very much been “kill a potential killing role, stay away from the innocent child who is likely to be guarded.” While not necessarily relevant here, people seem strangely reluctant to consider that scum might NK strategically rather than simply target the most immediately appealing target, which is necessarily fraught with complications.

***

So, the day largely starts with a lot of initial heat toward Sun Fan. See Freezin in 1242, Celirra in 1246. In the same period, Funnygurl defended Sun several times. None of these reactions are inherently problematic—Sun was at risk of lynch, so suspicion, defense, and general discussion are expected.

***

Xiz is fairly active early on, and his play is definitely more game-sided. Not that there's no off topic or joke material, but it's much more of an engaged Xiz. Given my experiences with him last game, I know he's capable of faking that, but it still feels like a tonal departure, so I lean slightly town on his early day. Of course, the other stuff came shortly thereafter, but I liked the early “serious” blitz. It felt real.

Precarious 08-20-2018 07:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4643011)
For context:

sunfan votes sytho
wc tells sunfan dont do that
sunfan gets off sytho
sunfan states hes getting off because wc convined him
sunfan later sates he got off not because wc convinced him
I call sunfan out on it
sunfan admits it

Sunfan didn't lie, but... it wasn't the truth and im stuck
This is an interesting point. That sort of causal mismatch is...problematic.

My guess is that after Sun weakened on Syhto, I listed them as my leading wolf candidate in my short roster run. That made Sun say that they couldn't see w/w, and then shortly thereafter voted me. That suggests to me that the switch away from Syhto was probably legitimate—either Sun was still weakly wolf-reading both of us, or was wolf-reading me, and my accusation cemented their interpretation of Syhto. Sun voted me shortly thereafter. The initial post actually set off alarm bells because Sun used a weird impromptu nickname for me, and we had interacted a fair bit during the prior game (Sun was hosting, so I asked a fair number of questions on Discord). But the vote on me shored up their overall profile by at least generating a post-to-post level of consistency. That clashes with the lack of internal consistency above though.

Precarious 08-20-2018 07:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celirra (Post 4643014)
Isnt lynch all liars just a way of twisting the prevalence of illogic to convince people that bad thought patterns equivalate to wolfiness
While I definitely stood to benefit last game with the competing fake claims, I really do believe that fake claims should be punished. Any sort of gambit doesn't outweigh the implicit lack of trust, nor the precedent it sets—particularly since I've seen towns get burned elsewhere ignoring fake claims. But it's worth distinguishing between outright, specific lies and internal inconsistencies. Everyone is likely guilty of the latter from time to time—I'll probably manage a few in this text wall. But while they shouldn't necessarily be a clarion call for an immediate lynch, internal inconsistency is definitely more scum-sided than town, because wolves are, by definition, putting on an act, and thus aren't actually working toward the goal of lynching all wolves. Thus, they're more likely to get their wires crossed when making cases—they're not actually trying to solve anything, they're just putting up what looks good, and would benefit the wolf victory condition long term.

The problem with an inconsistency like this is that it's certainly something a wolf might do; make a convenient case, then retract it when it stops being convenient. But because a wolf-case is always manufactured, how they get in and out of it can be lost along the way. But at the same time, inconsistency isn't solely a wolf failing, particularly in a game where gut reads and general intuition plays a large role. It can be difficult to fully explain how you feel sometimes (although I think it's good practice to at least try). So while I would hold that lynch all liars isn't necessarily bad advice, it should apply to clear, definitive lies, and less so to something like this. I kind of fall in the middle on this; I think it should be a point against Sun, but not a huge one.

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:47 PM
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Precarious how the fuck are you making these long posts so fast?

Precarious 08-20-2018 07:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celirra (Post 4643012)
Oh uh as an aside... I'm really sorry for any stupid stuff caused by my outburst last phase
Uh
I'll explain in postgame but irl hit 100x harder than it thought it would
People get upset playing this game, and I'd hope that (absent truly cruel personal attacks) we can all look past someone getting upset, particularly if there's an irl component. As far as I'm concerned, you have nothing to apologize for.

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:48 PM
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It's honestly alarming that you're producing so much content so rapidly

it feels premeditated

Precarious 08-20-2018 07:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4643440)
Precarious how the fuck are you making these long posts so fast?
I've been working on them for hours. They're all already written. I would have posted them in real time, but last time I did that in the anonymous Danganronpa game, I ended up posting about something that had already been proved impossible later in the thread. So I waited this time, resulting in this dumb backlog.

There are more coming, obviously.

Precarious 08-20-2018 07:50 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4643037)
looking at Gradiant's last will and testament

funny > indheart > sunfan
I agree with this order.

***

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4643069)
do you think there's any validity to the rest of the reads gradiant had?

of that list who is most suspicious to you?
Having said that, I could be wrong about the order, to the extent it's even relevant. Gradiant's flip guarantees the reads were made in good faith, but they were also made under duress (time and looming votes). I don't really see InD or Sun as particularly wolfy, and even Funny is more a PoE thing relative to the overall player pool. But whether or not they're right, they're at least worth considering as honest assessments.

On the other hand, there's a fair amount of OMGUS involved, as two of the three Gradiant voters were also on his list.

Precarious 08-20-2018 07:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4643070)
i mean it's probably as valid as any townie dishing out reads, yeah?



so, indheart or sunfan?

indheart's null for me. sunfan was kinda town but i don't trust that read much anymore.

indheart, but also i wouldn't lynch either of them rn
So this is townier than Funny on D1, although part of my problem with her was just the lack of gameplay engagement on the first day. She seems more focused today, which overall is null I guess, town-sided if anything.

***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4643074)
leaning towards disagree because of his incorrect read of me
But then this happens. It's extremely unlikely that anyone could possibly guess everyone from the dataless mess of D1—we can't even be sure of how many wolves there are for example. So I'd take Gradiant's list with a grain of salt—but only as a general assessment, rather than because you're there. Dismissing the validity of the other two suspicions, even if you don't agree with them, moreso because of his read on you—which imo wasn't entirely unwarranted—feels overly defensive.

***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4643065)
if you mislynch me again dbp i swear

if anything go for the others first
And of course this is not an actual defense. Past ain't prologue. Particularly given your own skepticism toward the other suspects. Shouldn't you be telling DBP to look elsewhere altogether, rather than “lynch them first”?

Precarious 08-20-2018 07:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4643090)
I think dbp is saying too many... weird things

if he think I justified something in hindsight but am town, that doesn't make too much sense considering he voted Gradiant for something that isn't exactly the same but is in a similar light

he has just been pretty weird and I think that's a lot more wolfy for him than not
Okay, I have to ask, because this has been driving me crazy. Like, I know I don't haven't played a ton of games here, so my meta-knowledge of any of you is sort of limited, but DBP's play this game has been very different from what I've seen in the past. And not in the “this is their town game, this is their wolf game” way; DBP's style and overall approach feels dramatically different. Have I just played with DBP at the wrong times in the past, or is this a completely new game style for them?

Precarious 08-20-2018 07:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643092)
Even though gradiant was vanilla, i feel we should lynch in his pool, and by that i mean the people who voted for him and the people he said we should look into.
That would be FG, DBP, Sun Fan, and inD. There's a lot of overlap between the two pools—FG and Sun Fan are in both. DBP voted Gradiant, inD was on the last testament. I'm sort of leaning toward FG so far, but even there I don't feel great about it. I wouldn't say we should necessarily limit to this pool—it's not like there's guaranteed to be a bad guy in it. But all of those people warrant attention if for no other reason than their proximity to Gradiant.

***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celirra (Post 4643093)
And that's why you voted me right
Quote:
Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643094)
No. That was mostly a i don't like your vibe. But I'll be changing, don't worry.
Not the best look here.

Precarious 08-20-2018 07:56 PM
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Last one for now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4643156)
Everything coming out of xiz is registering as white noise

? ? ? ?
Xiz feels townier than last game. Obviously there's a bias there on my part, I feel like he's pushing in a way he didn't before. I'm not getting a lot of white noise here. Even the off topic stuff has toned down.

***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tps222 (Post 4643196)
i dont know how the vote tag works I guess

freezn
Even by my standards you're quiet, then you immediately vote based off a single post that you don't “like,” absent any analysis? And on a wagon gaining momentum? Man, I'm not feeling the Prec vibe anymore.

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 07:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Precarious (Post 4643443)
I've been working on them for hours. They're all already written. I would have posted them in real time, but last time I did that in the anonymous Danganronpa game, I ended up posting about something that had already been proved impossible later in the thread. So I waited this time, resulting in this dumb backlog.

There are more coming, obviously.
I believe this but you're going to have to post in real-time

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 08:01 PM
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the two wolf tells from your bullet-time game is that you were robotic and that your posts were disjoint from the rest of the action in the game and you didn't really engage with others that much

I have you as town atm bc you seem less roboto but as I said you're going to be held to a higher standard w/r/t interacting in real-time

Funnygurl555 08-20-2018 08:01 PM
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precarious you sure i'm a "poe" kinda wolf read??

Precarious 08-20-2018 08:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4643449)
I believe this but you're going to have to post in real-time
And for the rest of the night I will.

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 08:02 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Precarious (Post 4643445)
So this is townier than Funny on D1, although part of my problem with her was just the lack of gameplay engagement on the first day. She seems more focused today, which overall is null I guess, town-sided if anything.

***



But then this happens. It's extremely unlikely that anyone could possibly guess everyone from the dataless mess of D1—we can't even be sure of how many wolves there are for example. So I'd take Gradiant's list with a grain of salt—but only as a general assessment, rather than because you're there. Dismissing the validity of the other two suspicions, even if you don't agree with them, moreso because of his read on you—which imo wasn't entirely unwarranted—feels overly defensive.

***



And of course this is not an actual defense. Past ain't prologue. Particularly given your own skepticism toward the other suspects. Shouldn't you be telling DBP to look elsewhere altogether, rather than “lynch them first”?
ok I know I made this same mistake earlier but this is the last time this game I'm going to accept this as a dumbtell

FreezinIce 08-20-2018 08:02 PM
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Dude I need a tldr

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 08:02 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
with that said prec is probably lock

inDheart 08-20-2018 08:03 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4643453)
ok I know I made this same mistake earlier but this is the last time this game I'm going to accept this as a dumbtell
oh was it you earlier

explains the "oh" ig

FreezinIce 08-20-2018 08:04 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Indheart I have avoided reading anything gradient related. There's no reason for this other than what I've given so call it antitown if u want

The thought of going back to parse that literally fills me with dread.

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 08:04 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
those fuckers at papa johns forgot to put hot sauce on my buffalo chicken pizza

FreezinIce 08-20-2018 08:05 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4643455)
with that said prec is probably lock
Inb4 you splat like charu did in time traveler turbo clearing people on dumbtells

FreezinIce 08-20-2018 08:07 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
If prec posts stuff besides premeditated wallposts I'll feel like his slot is better than his wolf game

Precarious 08-20-2018 08:07 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4643451)
precarious you sure i'm a "poe" kinda wolf read??
I may be misusing FFR terminology--I used it to mean Process of Elimination. Basically, rather than you looking super wolfy, it's that other people look more towny by comparison. There's not a whole lot of separation in this game, imo. Although if you check down a little further, you'll see a couple issues I had with your play today.

But a lot of it is honestly that your post volume-to-content ratio bothers me. I'm trying to get over that, since I've felt the same way before about you (even when you were town), but I feel like it's an easy way to hide in plain sight.

Precarious 08-20-2018 08:09 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4643458)
those fuckers at papa johns forgot to put hot sauce on my buffalo chicken pizza
Really, it's your fault for eating at Papa John's.

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 08:09 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4643459)
Inb4 you splat like charu did in time traveler turbo clearing people on dumbtells
I mean maybe

It's enough to reinforce my current townread on him though

if it comes down to brass tacks I'll reevaluate

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 08:10 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
YoshL your OP is not very accessible

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 08:11 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
I once got yelled at for making green the color motif for a presentation I gave

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 08:11 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
1. Funnygurl555
3. Celirra
4. who_cares973
8. Anti-Pearl FreezinIce
9. blindreper1179
10. Tps222

this is my pool for today I think

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 08:14 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Precarious (Post 4643462)
Really, it's your fault for eating at Papa John's.
I also dont' even have hot sauce at home, all I have is this really shitty cajun sauce that I should have thrown away weeks ago because it sucks

I might use barbecue sauce and see how that goes

who_cares973 08-20-2018 08:15 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Not surprising

FreezinIce 08-20-2018 08:16 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4643466)
1. Funnygurl555
3. Celirra
4. who_cares973
8. Anti-Pearl FreezinIce
9. blindreper1179
10. Tps222

this is my pool for today I think
Why blind

the sun fan 08-20-2018 08:18 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4643424)
「It is the season of White Album...」
Stop this

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 08:19 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4643470)
Stop this
why?

inDheart 08-20-2018 08:21 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4642961)
i think it was amazing and people should have looked at it. However, I think dbp is actually town tho from how he reacted to me specifically. It was pretty much exactly how he treated when sunfan and i voted him in the turbo. I think what he did all of yesterday was terrible but hes good
so what you're saying is, you voted someone for reactions 5 min to deadline, when you didn't seem to have your mind made up

wat

also did you change your mind overnight bc you kept your vote through deadline

inDheart 08-20-2018 08:28 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
reason i say "voted someone for reactions" is your post immediately preceding that is "dae have an opinion on this case on gradiant with the cel stuff" without making any kind of value judgment on it, then you just fire off the vote

the one before that is "do people like backpack still"

inDheart 08-20-2018 08:34 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4643457)
Indheart I have avoided reading anything gradient related. There's no reason for this other than what I've given so call it antitown if u want

The thought of going back to parse that literally fills me with dread.
eh, it's important to reading funny though imo

i'm thinking about gradi's "people are ok with fg doing this stuff?" post which is like, people's eyes are glazing over it and it's going ignored, although when i went back i did find some people's reasons for that, like sunfan's confidence in his read on her

xiz/fg could be w/w since seems like xiz was trying to talk over gradi

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 08:35 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4643471)
why?


When will my feelings reach sunfan?

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 08:38 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
What do I have to do to have my feelings reflected back to me in the mirror?

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 08:41 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
ok bye sunfan

the sun fan 08-20-2018 08:45 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Precarious (Post 4643438)
This is an interesting point. That sort of causal mismatch is...problematic.

My guess is that after Sun weakened on Syhto, I listed them as my leading wolf candidate in my short roster run. That made Sun say that they couldn't see w/w, and then shortly thereafter voted me. That suggests to me that the switch away from Syhto was probably legitimate—either Sun was still weakly wolf-reading both of us, or was wolf-reading me, and my accusation cemented their interpretation of Syhto. Sun voted me shortly thereafter. The initial post actually set off alarm bells because Sun used a weird impromptu nickname for me, and we had interacted a fair bit during the prior game (Sun was hosting, so I asked a fair number of questions on Discord). But the vote on me shored up their overall profile by at least generating a post-to-post level of consistency. That clashes with the lack of internal consistency above though.
I was phoneposting and my phone autocorrected ur name, I think

the sun fan 08-20-2018 08:45 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4643478)
ok bye sunfan
Sorry, I am finding it increasingly difficult to keep up.

the sun fan 08-20-2018 08:50 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4643471)
why?
Agatha Christie is a terrible person from what I hear

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 08:51 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4643487)
Agatha Christie is a terrible person from what I hear
I believe it

the sun fan 08-20-2018 08:53 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
I am not clearing Prec for that. He seems like he couldve thought of that as a wolf. I do like his posts tho. His reads feel against the grain and I tend to like that. Beyond that, I really have to admit that I'm playing off of feel atm. Cel continues to be a wolf btw.

the sun fan 08-20-2018 08:54 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Prec, I would say DNP has evolved as a player since u were last here, and that goes as both alignments imo.

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 08:54 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4643489)
I am not clearing Prec for that. He seems like he couldve thought of that as a wolf. I do like his posts tho. His reads feel against the grain and I tend to like that. Beyond that, I really have to admit that I'm playing off of feel atm. Cel continues to be a wolf btw.
I wouldn't put it past Prec but

I kind of just hate wolves that fake dumbtells, it kinda feels like cheating and it just makes the game less fun

DaBackpack 08-20-2018 08:55 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4643491)
I kind of just hate wolves that fake dumbtells, it kinda feels like cheating and it just makes the game less fun
this isn't a reason why Prec wouldn't fake a dumbtell but I just took an opportunity to express a general opinion about this game

the sun fan 08-20-2018 09:01 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Cel just brushed aside my accusation. If people can't see why I was scumreading him before, look at his reaction to when I called him out. I think it looks woody in and of itself.

FreezinIce 08-20-2018 09:04 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4643489)
I am not clearing Prec for that. He seems like he couldve thought of that as a wolf. I do like his posts tho. His reads feel against the grain and I tend to like that. Beyond that, I really have to admit that I'm playing off of feel atm. Cel continues to be a wolf btw.

I don't know what it is. I know you have a vote on him, but I don't actually believe u think cel is a wolf.

The progression feels like it came out of nowhere. Maybe this is just a product of me selectively reading but do you have something from yesterday or early today that was the catalyst for this

FreezinIce 08-20-2018 09:05 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
You lasering in on him reminds me of myself except I don't think you regularly do this

inDheart 08-20-2018 09:07 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by who_cares973 (Post 4643468)
Not surprising
wc was here only to make this post

pretty elite

FreezinIce 08-20-2018 09:07 PM
Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4643493)
Cel just brushed aside my accusation. If people can't see why I was scumreading him before, look at his reaction to when I called him out. I think it looks woody in and of itself.
He did something in my eyes that was par for the course for cel. At worst imo it's 50/50. I'm not sure if he has leveled up his wolf game to the point where he can casually sidestep straight up accusations like that without resorting to aggression


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