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This Tear Gas Got Me Hella Fucked Up Bro
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Oh man didn't even notice the entire George Floyd thread got demolished from the time warp.
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we found the solution
time travel back |
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I'd rather just live in 2019 forever tbh
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I think there was a good reason why the other thread got deleted, and I don't think i have to explain it.
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anyway blm fuck the government |
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this thread is much better, let's keep this energy
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unrelated, passing this along as it was passed to me, looking forward to doing homework:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1..._gukBlYkx0sONA |
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but i made that thread :(
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If you want to understand the failures of police reform and see the pathway toward police abolition, Th End of Policing is currently free to download: https://www.versobooks.com/books/242...nd-of-policing
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I've made a daily habit of checking the front page of Reddit any time that I'm bored and find myself at a loss of something to do. I haven't lived a day since these protests, where I haven't seen some video or evidence of police brutality posted somewhere. And every video or gif that I've seen, has been something recent and unique. Scares me as a Canadian.
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long answer some of us are able to take a step back because the stuff going on doesn't currently affect us as much. what we do in our "down time" is very important, basically as long as whatever you're doing isn't a load of hypocritical ass then it's fine. spend some time on a hobby, read a book, listen to some music, do something to ensure you keep a level head while the fabrics of society begin to unravel. |
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there also this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...GdVxE-FoAlYzMg a google doc w/ nearly 2000 black artists of varying shades of independence, worth checking out if you want to support black artists in some tangible way, just a massive list of potentially killer music. peruse for some genres that pique your interest, check out some music, toss ppl a few bucks, maybe make a chart idk |
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No joke i'm watching this unfold popcorn in hand, but at least a lot of america's issues that were usually swept under the rug are now fully exposed and with better chances of being reformed.
What do you think will happen when the second wave of corona hits again? Numbers are already on the rise again and I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the riots have been exacerbated by poor economic conditions. |
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have ya guys heard about the skullgirls drama
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is it really drama if it's just another day in edgy gamer land
okay I watched everything after the joke and jesus christ do people really think editing like this is funny? |
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There is literally no worse crowd than the anti-SJW crowd.
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there is literally no worse crowd than a crowd right now
practice social distancing folks |
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I like to think that if I cloned myself enough times and stood with my fellow selves then that would be the worst crowd imaginable.
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also fuck the police black and indigenous lives matter |
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the video disgusts me solely for the fact that it features yanderedev (aka evaxephon) in the editing
dude is a mega creep but I'm not gonna derail the thread here |
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forgot to post this, in case anyone wants to donate to a good cause and get like two bajillion video game as a bonus
https://itch.io/b/520/bundle-for-rac...e-and-equality |
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Fuck YandereDev |
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what do yall think about reform
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police departments are accidentally making good cases for further community investment that's not toward them. can we do that kind of reform?
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daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn
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Just an honest question from someone who has never set foot in the US: do you really believe that every cop in a 300 million people country is violent, racist, corrupted or something along these lines? I've seen a lot of extreme generalizations made during these protests and i'm curious to know if what was said in the heat of the moment is an actual opinion people have of their own law enforcement.
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what do you think about the "extreme generalizations" made about protesters? given the incidence rate of domestic violence from cops is anywhere from 20-40% (the actual stat is most likely higher), I'd say that a good number of them are at the very least violent https://www.theatlantic.com/national...riends/380329/ http://womenandpolicing.com/violenceFS.asp racism is baked into the system, our entire country was built using one of the most racist institutions the world has ever seen. don't forget that racial discrimination "ended" in 1968, less than 60 years ago. you can't get rid of racial discrimination in a single generation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified_immunity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence not every cop is violent, racist, corrupted, etc. but every cop is complicit, and they will actively punish any cop who goes against the grain and speaks out about police brutality. |
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^More reading on that last part, be sure to check the references since this is wikipedia! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence
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atlanta prosecutor seems like a good person
we found out in philly that the decision to kettle and gas protesters on 676 came all the way from the top, so that's fun. next escalation i bet they break out the IEDs |
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I, at risk of inviting criticism, refuse to believe all cops are bastards
one of my friends was a cop until last year (maybe a bit ago) EDIT: maybe a bit more than a year ago* the very reason he quit was his disillusionment with the internal politics was he a bastard up until the moment where he quit? was he a bastard while he was on the force? I can't seriously answer yes to these questions. I refuse to make a generalization that broad. There are good cops out there. I cannot refute that the system is very, very bad. Not everyone involved is a bastard. |
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(e: looks like both my posts here are about drug laws and I don't mean to detract from the issue at hand of police brutality, I'm just using it as a convenient wedge for questioning the ethics of being a police officer, even with good intentions) |
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But even if we want to say that your friend is a great person, anyone who is a decent person is either disillusioned, bullied out, fired for nonsense, fired for being a whistleblower, etc. The institution is built so that good people can't exist within it. These people are temporary cops imo |
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I personally like saying "fuck cops" 'cause it kind of implies "current and [especially] lifelong cops"
but really I'm just following the lead of little leftist circles I've started hovering around while I work on doing the bare minimum of educating myself in the background, lol. btw get the new humble bundle with 100% of proceeds going to helpful orgs y'all!!!!! |
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replace "cop" with "SS soldier" and you'll understand pretty quickly
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I... don't actually 100% know what he would've done. When he was still a cop, people there talked about smoking weed in front of him and another person who usually there was also a cop, and still is as far as I know. If he were on the job, he probably would've """""done his job"""""" which I know is a bit of an ominous thing to say. I could ask him next time I see him what his stance is/was, and I probably will now. Even if he believes in it, I still don't think it makes him a bastard. |
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It's not just "ominous" when it is real people's lives being affected. also if he "believes" that people who own cannabis for personal use deserve to be denied their personal freedom because of that, and actually has the power to enforce that belief, then he is a fascist bastard I'm really sorry |
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I obviously don't agree with it, maybe his stance isn't what I think it is, even if it is, I can't call him a "fascist bastard" |
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if he believes it, even if I don't, and its not because of malice or something, I can still look him in the eye and enjoy talking to him/being around him |
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It might be easier to navigate if we're more precise about the issue.
Personally, I don't really find holistic markers like "good person" and "bastard" super useful when it comes down to it. Your friend might, in general, be "a good person." When we say ACAB, it's a statement that "being a cop" is de facto a negative character trait. There is no way to spin "being a cop" into a consistently positive trait. This is at the heart of ACAB. Your friend might donate to charity, volunteer at pet shelters, and be a community leader. These are positive traits that reflect well on him. But at the end of the day, none of these things "cancel out" his being a cop. People can be both good and bad. The question you should be asking isn't "is there an example of a cop that I think is a good person?", but rather "is there a good person who I thought was good BECAUSE he was a cop?" "He seems like a sweet guy, but he's a police officer." This right here illustrates this nuance. "He's a police officer", in this case, is positioned to form a juxtaposition with the clause "He seems like a sweet guy." The cop-ness DETRACTS from the original premise of "He seems like a sweet guy." That is ACAB. |
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it's cool that y'all are having talks about race but i'm starting to disagree with some stuff said here so here we go:
you can believe that acab while still valuing your friendship with a cop outside of their profession, imo. for police, enforcing laws-- whether they agree with them or not-- is their responsibility. i wouldn't blame a cop for enforcing drug laws, so long as they did so indiscriminately (edit: does this happen? no). do i have an issue with drug laws period? yeah, but that's above cops' heads. there's some misguided anger going on here |
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I-35 goes through my city. It was constructed at a time where redlining was a standard tactic of systemic racism. The black part of town was pushed to the east, the white part was pushed to the west. I-35 is an effective conduit that serves a lot of traffic. Regardless of how well or poorly it manages traffic flow, it still upholds the status quo of systemic racism by separating black and brown Austin from white Austin.
Being a cop is a lot like that interstate. Policing is an institution designed to uphold the status quo of systemic racism regardless of whether a cop is a good or bad person and regardless of whether they are a good or bad cop. The laws they are told to enforce and the criminal justice system that designs the punishment for those laws upholds systemic racism. Hiring cops with good hearts won't magically fix that problem. |
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what i'm trying to get at is that police are enforcing laws that higher bodies of government put into effect. if you're angry about drug laws, direct your anger to policymakers. cops don't make the laws happen.
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When a police officer is stricken by irrational fear for their safety and kills somebody who is not a threat with unjustified force, they are doing so because it's human nature to use force during such fear. And as far as a police officer doing so is not following some innate nature, but rather their training, which is their authority, they are following their human nature by following authority. If you want to excuse human actions for being human nature, you have to first deny human moral agency. |
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yes, a cop can choose to ignore them, but quotas are a real thing and they don't give a fuck. they're more likely to fulfill their quota instead of show compassion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification this also exists within the power of citizens in the form of jury nullification |
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do you actually care about drug addicts or nah??? |
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isn't funnygril an ex addict |
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y'all see why i don't like this chick now right
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tbf a lot of negative stereotypes of "crackheads" and shit like that are perpetuated by... cops
there was a television show that ran for literally 3 decades where the whole point was that drug addicts (and sex workers) were criminals. it was called cops for christ's sake lmao |
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yeah but i'm not saying that cops aren't shitty i'm saying that what gave them the ability to even be shitty in the first place wasn't their doing
like i'm not arguing that we don't blame cops for their own discriminatory acts or for their role in perpetuating racism. even then though, the situation's much more complicated than "cops are racist." it's not like someone magically becomes an asshole when they do become a cop or aspire to become one. america's racist and keeps raising racist people and that won't stop by pointing fingers at cops because every damn institution-- from health care to education to housing-- is racist and became that way through the same mechanisms that brought us our shitty police force js, my comments never tried to cast the police force in a positive light edit: i get that my posts could be construed that way because i have a habit of under explaining but also c'mon |
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