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Hakulyte 04-24-2020 02:44 PM

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tl;dr: We don't have enough players who posted enough to have a reasonable small group of inactives to clear up.

The odds of flipping a random town is just too high right now imo.

jessiebessie 04-24-2020 02:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4726102)
Yeah actually lets just discuss this now

I know when someone doesn't show at all (not saying DBP will do this, but it's happened a few times) everyone tries to avoid dealing with the slot because "lol it'll get replaced"


We've had that kind of shit blow up in our face enough times to not do it again yeah?

Like it's d0, we gonna probably miss anyway. if someone legit is under 5 posts then instead of the long parade of replacements that also need replacing we should just clear up the slots and not wait until MYLO this time

Tbh Iím not a huge fan of hunting inactives. Iíd rather execute someone based on information (even if itís minimal information) rather than a lack thereof.

flashflash account 04-24-2020 02:49 PM

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sunfan's bingo board is filling out nicely already

flashflash account 04-24-2020 02:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jessiebessie (Post 4726107)
Tbh Iím not a huge fan of hunting inactives. Iíd rather execute someone based on information (even if itís minimal information) rather than a lack thereof.

here's your info: top poster is town 99% of the time, 2/3 of the wolves are in the bottom 1/3 of posters more than half the time

XelNya 04-24-2020 02:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4726106)
tl;dr: We don't have enough players who posted enough to have a reasonable small group of inactives to clear up.

The odds of flipping a random town is just too high right now imo.

Theyíre the same.

MixMasterLar 04-24-2020 02:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4726103)
I'm seriously considering no lynch D0 because I think it will help PRs stay in the game longer and do more night actions.

That would only happen D0 tho. Every other phases would be hunt based on flips etc.

Lynching inactives is something I agree on, but the main obstacle is that this led to outting PRs in previous games.

No lynching is just depriving us of info and doesn't clear up any inactive problem because inactives on d0 are inactves d1 like, 95% of the time. No lynching doesn't solve the slots which is the issue I don't want to deal with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4726106)
tl;dr: We don't have enough players who posted enough to have a reasonable small group of inactives to clear up.

Obviously if we get to EoD and we have a good lead and the biggest inactive still makes minimum posts, I'll be inclined to follow the lead

But you know the situation is rarely the case.

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Originally Posted by jessiebessie (Post 4726107)
Tbh Iím not a huge fan of hunting inactives. Iíd rather execute someone based on information (even if itís minimal information) rather than a lack thereof.

That's proven to lose games. refer to what I told Haku about d0 inactives being d1 inactives

I am also saying that replacing d0 inactives has proven to be not in town's favor in more then one game

I get that it seems like going for information in a game about information would be the right call but I've lost enough to know that you can't even start that step without removing black boxes first. I ain't gonna sit here and let a slot get replaced 4 times in a row and have this giant ??? late game where the possibility of a mislynch benefits wolves the most.

Xiz 04-24-2020 02:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4726103)
I'm seriously considering no lynch D0 because I think it will help PRs stay in the game longer and do more night actions.

bad idea. if you are town this methodology is anti-town.

No-lynch is only good in a final 4 situation

XelNya 04-24-2020 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4726094)
......

You know what? I'm just gonna vote one of the inactives again anyway. Not even gonna dive into whatever Haku just said

Hi my name is lar, Iím going to get my town read for the day by not thinking, please town read me, see look, Iím voting like I always do: without rhyme or reason.

Did I mention you should town read me for poking lar like this?

You should! I always do this. I always flip town.

I am town, read me as town please.

flashflash account 04-24-2020 03:03 PM

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xelnya town

Hakulyte 04-24-2020 03:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4726111)
No lynching is just depriving us of info

I used to play like that, but it never really helped me much.

Even info can be detrimental if a player wasn't going in the right direction.

Hakulyte 04-24-2020 03:19 PM

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MML/Jessie wants info.

Clearly, that's the wolf team right here.

Hakulyte 04-24-2020 03:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4726112)
bad idea. if you are town this methodology is anti-town.

No-lynch is only good in a final 4 situation

The ideal scenario is that town gets some sort of consensus on a lead wagon and that wagon flips wolf.

If it feels like it's going in that direction then sure yeah, no lynch shouldn't happen.

If the EoD votes look like 1:1:1:1:1:1:1:1 and it's chaos city.
I think no lynch becomes viable.

MixMasterLar 04-24-2020 03:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4726115)
Even info can be detrimental if a player wasn't going in the right direction.

You know what everyone just pretend I found the time to scream at Haku on how bad this is I'm going back to Xenosaga.

Hakulyte 04-24-2020 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4726118)
You know what everyone just pretend I found the time to scream at Haku on how bad this is I'm going back to Xenosaga.

You want info, but you also want to lynch an inactive.

I'm not sure what you want at this point.

Duskfall 04-24-2020 04:14 PM

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Have you ever come out of tryharding a scum game where you have to fake reads and then roll town and you no longer care about faking reads because you are town anyways so you just don't bother trying to solve the game at all?

flashflash account 04-24-2020 04:38 PM

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I've never rolled scum, wouldn't know

Xiz 04-24-2020 04:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4726117)
The ideal scenario is that town gets some sort of consensus on a lead wagon and that wagon flips wolf.

If it feels like it's going in that direction then sure yeah, no lynch shouldn't happen.

If the EoD votes look like 1:1:1:1:1:1:1:1 and it's chaos city.
I think no lynch becomes viable.

I see what you are saying, but this is still a huge mistake.

Killing town and misslynching is better then getting no new information. Always. Otherwise we only get new information from wolves (or in this game, potentially a SK)


no-lynching is only good if its not final 4, final 6, etc. End of story.

XelNya 04-24-2020 04:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4726119)
You want info, but you also want to lynch an inactive.

I'm not sure what you want at this point.

His cake, and to eat it to.

DaBackpack 04-24-2020 05:15 PM

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what's up gamers

who's ready to get spiked?

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DaBackpack 04-24-2020 05:15 PM

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