Originally Posted by Walrusizer (Post 4740306)

So first you say this, and then you give a clear example of 'sexist power structures' while simultaneosly claiming that they don't exist.

Originally Posted by ledwix (Post 4740429)

Please cite where I gave an example of a "sexist power structure." All I did was state facts about people's chosen behavior.

Originally Posted by ledwix (Post 4740429)

So the reason people make decisions is because of their environment. Okay. But what else? You're painting individuals into a viciously powerless corner, in which case, individuals basically don't exist in any meaningful way.

Originally Posted by ledwix (Post 4740429)

Following that reasoning, there is nothing BUT the environment, in which case, there ought to be no grievances about "sexist power structures," since we are all one harmonious cycle of energies within nature.

Originally Posted by ledwix (Post 4740429)

Isn't an individual him or herself part of someone else's environment? And that share of someone else's environment, in itself, carries an incremental weight in their decision-making process. Thus everyone literally has a slight bit of power over everyone else. It's a matter of whether one chooses to opt in or out; cooperate or defect. Why squander such power just to win an argument about how hopeless and powerless one is? If you're like to rise above, then rise above.

Originally Posted by Walrusizer (Post 4740432)

That "chosen behavior" is what I am referring to, just like how society "chose" to be racist in the 1800s. If you semantically don't want to consider this to be a 'power structure', fine, I guess, but the effects are the same.

Originally Posted by ledwix (Post 4740550)

Unfortunately, you haven't nailed down any coherent "sexism," which you implied is against women. Most of what I'm seeing is people imagining things and then giving into the very system they claim they want to transcend. To hold women fully morally inculpable for their decisions despite making half the aggregate daily decisions makes modern feminism seem like true sexism that disempowers the very people in question.

Originally Posted by Coolboyrulez0 (Post 4740547)

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Originally Posted by knuckles2224 (Post 4740605)

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I'm annoyed cause i know girls gonna be at house parties playing this lame as song saying "there's some hoes in this house" -_- mood already killed

Originally Posted by ledwix (Post 4740550)

Then define a power structure as any detected source of influence or force imparted throughout a group of beings through which a response is given. So things only have power over you to the extent that you let them have power over you, since you ultimately must make a decision as to how you will respond. Thus if you still let them have power over you, you are part of the problem rather than the solution.

The exception is when physical force is used, which isn't the case in the vast, vast majority of "sexist grievances" uttered today about how people feel that they are expected to act or dress a certain way. Well expectations in those regards apply to everyone. There is nobody who is seen without being predicted, guessed, or stereotyped as being about to act in a certain manner that is specific to perceived characteristics.



It's interesting that you just debunked yourself, unwittingly missing the point entirely.

If everything is largely just environmental factors, then one can't even find racist people morally culpable for their actions, as they're just following the herd's traditional practices, which, being the default position, leaves them morally unscathed. "I was just following orders."

In fact, you literally can't even transition from a land that practices chattel slavery to a land devoid of chattel slavery if there are only "environmental factors." You would only have steady-state slavery for eternity. To achieve abolition, some individuals still, at some point, have to consider their own principles, independent of environmental circumstances, to transcend the herd and strive to bring forth the very collective they hoped for.

One's internal brain state is in fact part of every other observer's environment, so one might as well use it.



Unfortunately, you haven't nailed down any coherent "sexism," which you implied is against women. Most of what I'm seeing is people imagining things and then giving into the very system they claim they want to transcend. To hold women fully morally inculpable for their decisions despite making half the aggregate daily decisions makes modern feminism seem like true sexism that disempowers the very people in question.