Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I think we need more elaboration on this.

What do you mean by "I got nothing anyways"?

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

It is tomorrow, I am pretty sure. Hopefully you will feel better by then.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Did you just get no response, period?

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I will try to reread it later, to see your logic on it. I guess I am not understanding why distracting you from Ben would be helpful even if they are W/W? The only reason I can think of is if Ben has a special role, but because flips are color only, I do not think we would be able to confirm it.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Oof, I hope you get well soon then.

And don't worry, EoD is tomorrow, not today... right?

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

This makes me think blind is probably town, but I think he absolutely should have gotten night results when he died

As far as "normal mechanics" would go, the only way that he would not get a result is if he was also roleblocked.

If blind is town and got roleblocked AND killed, that indicates fear to me. They wanted him gone and were also afraid of what his night action could do to the game.

REMEMBER: wolves did not realize that there was gonna be a second game.

If wolves thought he was an info role, killing him was good enough to do that. He would take his info to the grave. But if they RB'd AND killed him, that reveals that wolves thought he had a stronger power than just an info role: maybe a doctor or vigilante. They needed to stop his action, AND get rid of him.

If blind fully claimed to his neighbor, his neighbor would know that blind was just an info role, and would not roleblock him. If we buy into these premises, that makes blind's neighbor look pretty towny right now.

Who is blind's neighbor again?

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

If you read Force's initial distraction, it looked less like he was trying to distract TOWARDS himself, but ONTO me. He was trying to suss me for "having an agenda." Force himself didn't intend to be the distraction-- that didn't happen until I went in on him

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

That would be me, backpack.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

nice read 😎

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Both counter-wagons alive and walking makes me weary

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

God fucking damn it

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

OK so my top priority atm is resolving "why did blind not get a response from his night action"

IF blind was roleblocked, that makes Charu look better

IF blind was NOT roleblocked, that makes Charu ???

My first thought is that blind might actually be lying about his role, because with what I'm guessing now, blind's action SHOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH even though he "died"

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

11:22 PM] Charu: Quick question, blind
[11:22 PM] Charu: Did you decide to use your power last night again?
July 28, 2021
[12:25 AM] blind: No, I don't have it anymore.
[12:25 AM] blind: I went to check storn, but I only had it for first game.
[12:26 AM] Charu: WAIT, you're not a role anymore?
[12:26 AM] Charu: Bro, that's important as fuck to let the others know
[12:33 AM] blind: Dude, I just finished catching up. I was planning on it. I didn't get my message until day start pretty much, and I was streaming.
[12:33 AM] Charu: Still, that would've been helpful to tell the game state last phase.
[12:33 AM] Charu: Unless you didn't know last day phase.
[12:34 AM] blind: I didn't
[12:34 AM] Charu: That's................. odd...
[12:34 AM] blind: I was told nothing about it, until I got my message at start of phase pretty much.
[12:34 AM] blind: I know.
[12:34 AM] blind: I was hoping I could get something off storn
[12:34 AM] Charu: Think you can paraphrase what it said to me?
[12:34 AM] blind: Yeah
[12:34 AM] Charu: Or in the thread even?
[12:34 AM] Charu: I think thread would love to know this.
[12:35 AM] blind: "Your power is only able to be used in main game" basically
[12:35 AM] blind: That would of been a cool message when I died, but whatever.
[12:36 AM] Charu: Alright, well I guess it's not too odd anymore
[12:36 AM] Charu: I thought like... someone removed your role
[12:36 AM] Charu: Still, should let the thread know.
[12:36 AM] blind: I am in process

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Does that help, backpack?

lmao

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

A little, but the confusing thing is that MY POWER WENT OFF, presumably because "at the time I used my power, I was still in the first game". and then I entered the second game and was told I was VT

blind's power should ALSO have gone off because "at the time he used his power, he was still in the first game". and then he entered the second game and was told he was VT

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

blind's power "should have gone off".

but it didn't.

which is either:

1) sunfan having a specific bullshit rule that only applies to information roles
2) blind got roleblocked, so he didn't get a response, or
3) blind is lying

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

alright, that's some good reassurance. I'll likely be better by then.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

<3333

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I kinda think this is what's happening right now

With no "deaths" in the night, and Gold Stinger "not dying", I don't think ANY of us actually CAN die. We are stuck here, and our job is to perform cardflips to help out the "main game."

We are in a reverse game. Think about what that means for a moment:

Time is flowing backwards. We cannot "kill" people here, because that means deleting a player "from the past" of this game. That is: a player dying here would mean that we delete them from earlier in the game.

Yesterday, you lynched Gold Stinger, but you could not "kill" him... because that would mean killing Gold Stinger before "the game even started."

Players can ENTER this game, because that just represents that "these three players USED to be in this game, but EVENTUALLY GET NIGHTKILLED" in the forward-flow of linear time.

If you imagine the "un-reversed" version of this game, then we are currently at Day X. With 8 players. "Some player" will be lynched today ("storn"). Then, "three players" will be nightkilled ("Charu, DBP, and roundbox"). Then, the game enters Day X+1, with only 4 players next (GS, star-crossed, Subaru, and blind).

"Our game" is not even a game. It is a "reversed" play-back of some other imaginary game. We actually cannot directly take any actions that interrupt this play-back, because it would mean we are changing the past of a game that already happened.

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For you programmers out there, consider the "stack" data structure. This game is just a stack, wherein sunfan is pushing previous game-states onto this stack. As sunfan said at the very beginning...... "this game has ended already."

This second game, when TWG 200, Game 1 ends, will just be what you see when you hit the "rewind" button at the season finale of this "imaginary TWG 200" game.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

So is this basically saying that the second post is just a red herring cuz I'm kinda disappointed if it is js

On another note I've just now found out the multi-quote button exists after having accidentally hit it to quote this one and this makes things a thousand times easier than they originally were