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the sun fan 11-25-2020 05:11 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
I guess I should be careful what I wish for
I voted Freezin so that people would talk to me and this is what I get

look
just tell me, not a fuckin' gutread, give me something more than that because if we're wrong today and we go into mylo tomorrow, that's pretty fuckin' shitty, give me a reason why Freezin is a bad kill today based on what has happened thus far

Yoshl too, for you Haku

FreezinIce 11-25-2020 05:15 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4750491)
ah, yeah, you'll forgive me for stepping out of the way of the tumbleweed that blew past after I posted my reads list

tell me what I'm dodging
tell me what I'm dodging
tell me what I'm dodging
tell me what I'm dodging
tell me what I'm dodging

i just find the fact you completely sidestepped all that discussion with the verbose equivalent of "pairings are dumb" pretty wierd

thats something id expect from myself, and you dont play like me at all. Im currently doing pretty much the same thing, ive barely thought about all the discussion around fg / plop / tforce in service of doing my own thing

but the way you play i would have at least thought youd give that topic more words before moving on.

FreezinIce 11-25-2020 05:16 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4750492)
I guess I should be careful what I wish for
I voted Freezin so that people would talk to me and this is what I get

look
just tell me, not a fuckin' gutread, give me something more than that because if we're wrong today and we go into mylo tomorrow, that's pretty fuckin' shitty, give me a reason why Freezin is a bad kill today based on what has happened thus far

Yoshl too, for you Haku

first information lynch?

the sun fan 11-25-2020 05:21 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4750493)
i just find the fact you completely sidestepped all that discussion with the verbose equivalent of "pairings are dumb" pretty wierd

thats something id expect from myself, and you dont play like me at all. Im currently doing pretty much the same thing, ive barely thought about all the discussion around fg / plop / tforce in service of doing my own thing

but the way you play i would have at least thought youd give that topic more words before moving on.

this is the part where not knowing my meta is kind of stupid
this isn't something I just decided to give a shit about
I've literally talked for years about how people need to stop inventing pairings/teams in their head because its stupid to try and solve the game based off of that

the more you build it up, almost certainly, the more incorrect it gets, which is why just finding a singular scum that you feel good about is, in my opinion, rather proper for most people (this assumes no mechanical information that creates a dichotomy)

I have said this for literally years

the sun fan 11-25-2020 05:21 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4750494)
first information lynch?

I don't even know what you're saying here

Hakulyte 11-25-2020 05:22 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4750495)
this is the part where not knowing my meta is kind of stupid
this isn't something I just decided to give a shit about
I've literally talked for years about how people need to stop inventing pairings/teams in their head because its stupid to try and solve the game based off of that

the more you build it up, almost certainly, the more incorrect it gets, which is why just finding a singular scum that you feel good about is, in my opinion, rather proper for most people (this assumes no mechanical information that creates a dichotomy)

I have said this for literally years

So, basically you're telling me to vote Plop.

FreezinIce 11-25-2020 05:23 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
alright, well then by your own admission what info do you get when i die and flip human?

FreezinIce 11-25-2020 05:27 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4750496)
I don't even know what you're saying here

short answer is it was a joke that didnt translate well from my head to reality

the sun fan 11-25-2020 05:28 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4750498)
alright, well then by your own admission what info do you get when i die and flip human?

its not about the information, though I'm sure I could go back at the people who weren't talking about you and find some kind of conclusion, its about the fact that people were ignoring you, everyone was saying that they have a lot of townreads, but you weren't getting any developed townreads given on you

so I thought it was a good place to push to see what people had to say

little did I know that people had nothing to say about you other than they think you're town

this is very frustrating because like
you still haven't talked to me about what's wrong with my POE, which you raised objections about at the beginning of our discussion here, you're just pushing back at me

get rid of your hardon for a thunderdome and actually tell me where my reads are wrong (other than on you), please, for my sanity

also, since you apparently thought I wouldn't mind the pairings thing, I talked at length about how killing someone for info is pretty stupid because no one actually values any perceived information

you, somehow, still don't understand why I voted you

I voted you because I felt like you were being ignored, and I wanted you to stop getting ignored, and somewhere along the way, maybe get a developed read on you, but people just keep telling me to jerk myself off and shit

the sun fan 11-25-2020 05:29 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750497)
So, basically you're telling me to vote Plop.

sure, go ahead, he's been getting ignored too, the only difference so far is that he has promised content and freezin's just said that he isn't in the game yet

FreezinIce 11-25-2020 05:31 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
I also like how your stance has morphed from this

Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4750433)
I want to buy all stock that says Freezin is a wolf while it is still low. I somewhat expect him to be able to prove that he is town a la star-crossed's dice game if he is town, so I think this is a good place to vote for the time being anyways.

to this

Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4750492)
just tell me, not a fuckin' gutread, give me something more than that because if we're wrong today and we go into mylo tomorrow, that's pretty fuckin' shitty, give me a reason why Freezin is a bad kill today based on what has happened thus far

oooo am i getting under your skin baby???

living rent free in your head????

FreezinIce 11-25-2020 05:32 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
that last post from sunfan is slaying me lol

FreezinIce 11-25-2020 05:32 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
the big one, not the small one

FreezinIce 11-25-2020 05:33 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4750501)
get rid of your hardon for a thunderdome

i will NEVER

FreezinIce 11-25-2020 05:33 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
being real though, i will eventually crystalize everything. Im kind of memeing atm

TWGma 11-25-2020 05:34 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Plop
I read the thread a bit while mobile and at work, but I think Plop and FG are hits.
With that said though, Plop solves FG for me whereas I don't feel as strongly about FG solves Plop for me.

To summarize my thoughts, I think FG's vote on Plop was a very weak attempt at trying to distance from each other, as well as get around the excuse of "well they've never interacted with each other this game."

Plop's vote on me is to try to "distance" him and I instead because of the sus currently on me and keeps FG alive - which makes my vote that much worse because it only reinforces that belief, but I don't care, I think Plop is howling a hella lot more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4750013)
On the one hand, I feel like wolf t-force, if he really got caught and thought he couldn't get out of this, would be memeing a lot harder, similar to the nonary games game.

But on the other hand, I think his game here aligns with his wolf game in that game too.

This post in particular strikes me because it's something I do often as a wolf.
Give a read on someone, but also give the devik's advocate.
Ultimately, no read is actually given, but it looks like substance on the surface.



Quote:

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749915)
I don't like the idea of an Ule lynch, personally. Feels like it's a miss, plus everyone's gonna have the same justification for voting there so it won't get us much info.

Hindsight is hindsight, but this seems like a too-much-info post.
Did I not want Ulle lynched, you're right in that I didn't, but my only reason was to keep new players around longer, but that's just repeating myself.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4749998)
i think we're seeing the same thing

but alas t-force, we're basically never on the same team so you know i've gotta do this

surprised this is more of a one way thing though. where's the rivalry? :(

This post also draws my attention going back.
I think FG was trying to say that she and I both were reading that Haku was being wolfy with his vote on me.
Reading through this day, I don't think Haku is a wolf based on his talks with Shadow and DBP because I feel that would be very hard to keep up that facade for so long; it'd be easier to just say "g'night, I'll be back later."
The only way he's a wolf is if DBP also is and they basically bullshit-solve while Shadow sits there, but I don't think this is the case in this game.



Quote:

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749957)
I can't get behind an FG lynch.





Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4750014)
T-Force's posts feel snarky and passive-aggressive but I'm willing to ascribe that to actual frustration and like "lol"

For the record, almost 100% Column B. Column A (frustration) is pretty minimal this game.



PS. Haku. Re: your thoughts on going after FFA due to being Phoenix? I stopped watching your objections after the first page. I didn't even know you made him Phoenix.

PPS. Sunfan, while genius, that's not why I laughed at FFA being Moe.

DaBackpack 11-25-2020 05:35 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4750498)
alright, well then by your own admission what info do you get when i die and flip human?

FMPOV either Freezin doesn't actually understand what sunfan is trying to do here, or he's being overly defensive

sunfan is just trying to motivate discussion around a character who everyone has just kinda been ignoring, and he's challenging us to take a step back and actually critically evaluate why if/why we think he's towny

it's not an invalid way of creating content, esp with >24 hours left in phase

the sun fan 11-25-2020 05:36 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4750503)
I also like how your stance has morphed from this



to this



oooo am i getting under your skin baby???

living rent free in your head????

firstly, I hate that phrase, I think its stupid

yes, you haven't done shit to prove that you're town, and I expect that of you

I don't see how those two things are at odds at all, and I gladly gave you good odds of being scum that was going under the radar

this discussion has made me feel better about buying all that stock low because it feels like you're not reading what I'm saying sometimes

since you've managed to find the post that I've asked you to comment on two other times, can you please tell me, I don't even need a bunch of reasoning, just please tell me who I am either townreading that I shouldn't be, or mafiareading that I shouldn't be, aside from you

the sun fan 11-25-2020 05:38 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4750508)
PPS. Sunfan, while genius, that's not why I laughed at FFA being Moe.

yeah, its something you couldn't have known

I like that clown character btw, and I know I'm in the minority

Hakulyte 11-25-2020 05:38 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4750508)
PS. Haku. Re: your thoughts on going after FFA due to being Phoenix? I stopped watching your objections after the first page. I didn't even know you made him Phoenix.

I made him Phoenix because he posted an objection where he was Phoenix.

Also, good post overall. I'll have to think more about this.


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