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Shadow_God_10 11-23-2020 05:10 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749726)
maybe I was more resistant towards voting her than I should be (this would probably be because it felt like so many people jumped on her for stupid reasons)

Were there any other people outside of Xiz, myself and YoshL that you saw? Because 3 isn't exactly the biggest of numbers

the sun fan 11-23-2020 05:20 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749728)
Were there any other people outside of Xiz, myself and YoshL that you saw? Because 3 isn't exactly the biggest of numbers

raeko also said she thought the post was weird, I could go back and look
(doing it now)
(also I remembered what the raeko post was that I liked, I found it while looking, it was about how people need to keep the rather weak votes that were cast before roundbox jebaited us about when EOD was in the context in which they were cast)

haku clearly didn't like it, he never likes it when people talk about roles like that

ffa (I think) called that post "A major red flag"

the sun fan 11-23-2020 05:24 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
well, ok, Haku said my take of not wanting to kill her for talking about roles was likely to be correct, or that the take was good or something, which is kind of uh

monumental, for lack of a better word

mellon_collie 11-23-2020 05:31 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
ok hewwo I am done work for the day

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749612)
Yeah that's fair, how about Ulli's mechanics post? There's no way I'm quoting it because it's a massive wall.

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=209

Take a look at that and tell me what vibes you get from it

As I mentioned in my post here
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Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4749525)
I kinda feel the same way... I got fishy vibes from that post but also I don't really have an idea of how this person plays so ????

I got kinda fishy vibes from that post. To me it seemed like the stereotypical "mechanics to seem active" but also the content was just strange? Like even for a mechanics post, I'm not really sure what conclusions to draw from that on d0 when we don't have a single variable solved yet.

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749612)
What about FFA's post here, where he half expects Haku, myself, and Freezin to advance things and seems to be uncooperative in terms of moving things along with the rest of us

I think that's just the way FFA plays. I think I get what he means when he says you and Freezi normally move things along in games. Haku kinda but Haku more just posts a lot than actively prodding people like you which "moves the game along"

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749612)
What about Sunfan's defense on Ulli

I just found the post you're talking about and I think sunfan might have made that post about anyone at the time. He's pretty much stopped defending her now but I'd be interested to see if his opinion changes if she were to come back and post more

Hakulyte 11-23-2020 05:31 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4749701)
My experiences with FFA have led to this:
If FFA seems disagreeable and wolfy, he's probably town.
If he's agreeable and generally pleasant in the thread, he's probably wolf.



I realize that's cherry-picking on the same person I've basically spent all gamer talking about, but nyeh, I really don't care right now, and won't until day 1 begins.

I can assure you that he can play disagreeable and wolfy even as a wolf.
It happened before. You need to objectively look into why he's doing what he's doing.
That being said, I don't think I've seen anything that felt blatantly wolfy per say.

I think Shadow God is town based on how posts have been unfolding. He's just scanning the thread and doing his usual Shadow God game.
Xiz is someone I want to keep alive because I feel like his input is valuable regardless of alignment. I think voting there D0 is a waste.
I have a similar feeling toward Sunfan.
Raeko gets a pass from tone I guess.
Yoshl is null leaning town. Not interested to solve there either D0.
FFA has a decent chance of being town because while I wasn't a fan of his posts, they've been objectively fine if I read objectively.

FG is null ish, but her reads look questionnable to me. I'm not quite sure this changed since the one where she was ok to vote Sunfan/Xiz.
I feel like she hasn't been evaluating much due to lack of providing more explanations.

Freezin is pure null. I don't think he has a single post that helps me lean him. That worries me. If someone has a lean on Freezin, I'm interested.

Plop is a bit ?? because the FFA vote happened with straight up no explanation.
I didn't like that.

DBP is on the table too because even with the extension, input have been very minimal.
I know you often don't post before EoD, but ugh.

Ulle/T-Force are sort of tied by fate in this coin flip timeline.

Hakulyte 11-23-2020 05:40 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
If you asked me to vote an active player, I'd probably say Plop.
If you asked me to vote a low activity player, I'd probably say DBP.

Are these the best choices atm ? meh. Let me actually look up my yesterday's tower post myself.
It was more for me than you guys anyway.
I wanted to count connections between players based on votes/leans.

Hakulyte 11-23-2020 05:48 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
My tower post is pmuch leaning to vote Ulle in order to indirectly solve T-Force/Sunfan.

If wrong, wolves might be more along Plop/FG/(?)

Hakulyte 11-23-2020 05:49 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Plop/FFA/FG would make sense if Plop's intention is to move elsewhere in EoD.

Hakulyte 11-23-2020 05:51 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Yeah, I'm not even sure what I want to solve first to make the game easier.
If someone has recommendations for that I'm all ears.

Shadow_God_10 11-23-2020 05:55 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4749731)
ok hewwo I am done work for the day



As I mentioned in my post here

I got kinda fishy vibes from that post. To me it seemed like the stereotypical "mechanics to seem active" but also the content was just strange? Like even for a mechanics post, I'm not really sure what conclusions to draw from that on d0 when we don't have a single variable solved yet.


I think that's just the way FFA plays. I think I get what he means when he says you and Freezi normally move things along in games. Haku kinda but Haku more just posts a lot than actively prodding people like you which "moves the game along"


I just found the post you're talking about and I think sunfan might have made that post about anyone at the time. He's pretty much stopped defending her now but I'd be interested to see if his opinion changes if she were to come back and post more

Thank you Raeko, at least you're responding to my questions

TWGma 11-23-2020 05:56 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
I feel like I'm sheeping other reads here, but I also am reading Shadow pretty heavily town.

A lot of his thoughts and posts seem spur of the moment; no real hard self-editting like "does this make me look town? Does this make me feel wolfy?"
It just feels really genuine, and posts that he'd make when he has no information and is trying to create his own world of sense.

Shadow_God_10 11-23-2020 05:57 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
I should have worded that a little differently

Everyone's answering my questions when I ask, I'm just a little impatient sometimes

Hakulyte 11-23-2020 05:58 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749730)
well, ok, Haku said my take of not wanting to kill her for talking about roles was likely to be correct, or that the take was good or something, which is kind of uh

monumental, for lack of a better word

Something something me scum reading her over this exact play and her flipping town in Animal Crossing.

Shadow_God_10 11-23-2020 05:59 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
T-Force do you have any direction of where you'll be lynching today? I don't think you've moved you vote from FG way back when

Shadow_God_10 11-23-2020 06:00 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749736)
Yeah, I'm not even sure what I want to solve first to make the game easier.
If someone has recommendations for that I'm all ears.

Do you not usually find townie people first?

That's been your bread and butter for what appears to be eons

Hakulyte 11-23-2020 06:13 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
I mean, when it comes to Ulle, I'm like reacting based on my "experience with her playing town", but if asked "yeah, but how's her wolf game" then I draw a blank.
So, it's more the idea of not wanting to be wrong twice in a row about the same thing.
If this is premeditated behavior based on her previous game here then oof me.

Let's say I try to look elsewhere, I see T-Force and I feel like T-Force has a decent chance of being town here albeit his posts have been relatively sheepish so far.
Is this because there's simply not much to see ? Could be.

It just generally makes me want to look elsewhere e.g: Plop/Freezin.

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749742)
Do you not usually find townie people first?

That's been your bread and butter for what appears to be eons

Yeah, but clearly I haven't got enough for that.

I currently cannot read Plop/Freezin above null.

I can town read you/raeko/Xiz
I can hypothetically town read FFA/T-Force/Ulle/Yoshl, but im playing with fire.
If we add another layer probably Freezin/Sunfan, but im pretty I'm wrong by that point.

That would iso Plop/FG/DBP as the team.

Hakulyte 11-23-2020 06:14 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
pretty sure*

Hakulyte 11-23-2020 06:15 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
tl;dr: I need Plop/FG/DBP content that helps me read them.

mellon_collie 11-23-2020 06:19 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749736)
Yeah, I'm not even sure what I want to solve first to make the game easier.
If someone has recommendations for that I'm all ears.

I feel like your main problem is focusing on WAY too big of a picture. And also basing assumptions off of other assumptions. Try to keep yourself more grounded and you'll find things to solve organically

fatfuck42 11-23-2020 06:20 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749732)
Xiz is someone I want to keep alive because I feel like his input is valuable regardless of alignment. I think voting there D0 is a waste.
I have a similar feeling toward Sunfan.

I'm guessing you're leaning town on them based on where you put them in your analysis?

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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749732)
Raeko gets a pass from tone I guess.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749732)
Freezin is pure null. I don't think he has a single post that helps me lean him. That worries me. If someone has a lean on Freezin, I'm interested.

I'm surprised raeko gets a pass but freezin doesn't.

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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749732)
Plop is a bit ?? because the FFA vote happened with straight up no explanation.
I didn't like that.

I'm a fan of putting out d0 explanation-less votes on people who I wanna try and figure out. I'm pretty sure I've done it as both alignments in games we've played before.


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