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flashflash account 04-25-2020 07:44 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4726905)
I will legit let my tinfoil take me away to dreamland and vote you over Funny this phase. I'm all for letting Leetic finally realize that its been 48 hours and he needs to actually do something now but theres no way in hell i pick Funny over them.

Frankly he better deliver for all the hype your throwing or imma put you on the grill

odds are the case will be ludicrous, given history lol

MixMasterLar 04-25-2020 07:45 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4726906)
err I don't remember leetic scumreading ffa

He didn't?
??m

Bolth mannn 04-25-2020 07:45 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Also it seems a little off character for DBP not to try and convince anyone of anything with his last minute EoD posts, no? He just put a vote in on an inactive, and dipped.

I've mostly been townreading his slot though so idk

MixMasterLar 04-25-2020 07:46 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Bolth make a vote right now please

Dont not be here and be the last to vote where we cant agree or question it: please choose from your list of like 5 people now

DaBackpack 04-25-2020 07:46 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4726909)
Also it seems a little off character for DBP not to try and convince anyone of anything with his last minute EoD posts, no? He just put a vote in on an inactive, and dipped.

I've mostly been townreading his slot though so idk

bruh

Funnygurl555 04-25-2020 07:46 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
reiterating my intention to vote psychoangel if she doesn't show up

Bolth mannn 04-25-2020 07:46 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4726903)
:thonk:
we played one game together and you died d1

yea lmao I keep doing that

I was still scumreading you in that game though :/

DaBackpack 04-25-2020 07:47 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4726908)
He didn't?
??m

leetic voted FFA just now and I don't know why

flashflash account 04-25-2020 07:47 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
I have a pretty solid guess as to how leetic's case might end up being structured/what the substance of their read on me focuses on and if I'm right it just means they're town

if it's something else then w/e vote leetic I guess, still kinda tr them

Bolth mannn 04-25-2020 07:47 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
funny

MixMasterLar 04-25-2020 07:47 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4726909)
Also it seems a little off character for DBP not to try and convince anyone of anything with his last minute EoD posts, no? He just put a vote in on an inactive, and dipped.

I've mostly been townreading his slot though so idk

Did you not see his mad case on voting inactives d0?

I have it bookmarked now

flashflash account 04-25-2020 07:48 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4726917)
funny

my guy

MixMasterLar 04-25-2020 07:48 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4726330)
there's more to this though

1) Information. In the late-game we have more information on other players. An inactive player is a ???? that usually necessarily needs to be resolved because their slot is more valuable. That is, the information entropy of each slot is higher in endgame. So when a slot is completely unreadable in Final 5, it's much worse than if that slot is unreadable in Final 15 or w/e.
2) Similar to above--- when we make critical lynches we need them to be informed. D0 is never a critical lynch, so in the world where Inactive X is town, that outcome is less shitty than if you save that lynch for later.
3) Hiding space. Simply put, by killing off potential dead-weight you are necessarily forcing the wolves to engage more, since there will be less hiding room.
4) What happens so many times (read: Animal Crossing game) is that an actual wolf player will get traction in some middle phase, but -somehow- the momentum shifts to an inactive. Usually very hard to tell is anybody is pulling the strings, so we always say "OK, if this inactive is town, ALWAYS ALWAYS lynch this wolfy person" but guess what? There is ALWAYS a fucking way out of it the NEXT phase if there are still inactive presences. This literally is what lost town the last game: our inability to stick to our convictions and instead be distracted by random noise.
5) Making this an actual policy forces wolves in general to post more. This is pro-town since it increases the amount of information we have about each wolf, as well as increasing the volume of incriminating/contradictory/slippish posts

there you go

Like he is not just voting an inactive and peacing out, in the sense you imply anyway

DaBackpack 04-25-2020 07:48 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4726916)
I have a pretty solid guess as to how leetic's case might end up being structured/what the substance of their read on me focuses on and if I'm right it just means they're town

if it's something else then w/e vote leetic I guess, still kinda tr them

dude you need to stop riding his dick, let him answer for himself and we'll decide

Bolth mannn 04-25-2020 07:48 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4726911)
bruh

alright ignore the dipped thing, but still, this isn't how I remember you playing

Xiz 04-25-2020 07:49 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
funny is a really really bad lynch today

Bolth mannn 04-25-2020 07:49 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4726921)
Like he is not just voting an inactive and peacing out, in the sense you imply anyway

It's not his vote as such, it's the fact that I remember him usually trying to convince everyone else that they should also vote what he has voted

Bolth mannn 04-25-2020 07:50 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4726924)
funny is a really really bad lynch today

Why?

MixMasterLar 04-25-2020 07:50 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4726914)
leetic voted FFA just now and I don't know why

I see sorry my bad

No, he basically has only made a case on me and dodges any serious questions. He's done nothing worth discussion since you were here last

DaBackpack 04-25-2020 07:51 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4726925)
It's not his vote as such, it's the fact that I remember him usually trying to convince everyone else that they should also vote what he has voted

I want to hear leetic first

Xiz 04-25-2020 07:51 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Xel do you trust me?

DaBackpack 04-25-2020 07:53 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
I think psycho is the proper choice here but it's still important that leetic speak up because right now that slot is spaghetti

MixMasterLar 04-25-2020 07:53 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4726925)
It's not his vote as such, it's the fact that I remember him usually trying to convince everyone else that they should also vote what he has voted

Aight, ok i see what youre saying.

Idk I have the Haku exchange and the fact that inactive lynches this early are protown that makes me not want to consider him right now. Thats my defense of DBP

Xiz 04-25-2020 07:53 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4726931)
I think psycho is the proper choice here but it's still important that leetic speak up because right now that slot is spaghetti

/agree

Makilaz 04-25-2020 07:53 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Vote Count:
4/25 @ 19:00

00:59 = GOOD
00:00 = BAD

==============

leetic [3]
MixMasterLar, Ulleabhara, Hakulyte

psychoangel691 [3]
Duskfall, Xiz, DaBackpack

Funnygurl555 [2]
flashflash account, bolth mannn

MixMasterLar [1]
XelNya

jessiebessie [1]
Funnygurl555

flashflash account [1]
leetic

Xiz 04-25-2020 07:54 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
DBP, top 3 scum?

flashflash account 04-25-2020 07:55 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
psycho


fwiw
I still think xiz is wolfing
just following mech

MixMasterLar 04-25-2020 07:55 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Xiz I know youre angry with me

But please, please shot counterwagon

DaBackpack 04-25-2020 07:55 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4726935)
DBP, top 3 scum?

ignoring inactives prolly bolt leetic ully

flashflash account 04-25-2020 07:56 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
and then psycho flips 1x vigi

can't wait

Bolth mannn 04-25-2020 07:56 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4726936)
psycho


fwiw
I still think xiz is wolfing
just following mech

Don't have time to check

Do you not think Leetic is a wolf? Or do you just think psycho is a wolf over leetic?

DaBackpack 04-25-2020 07:56 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4726936)
psycho


fwiw
I still think xiz is wolfing
just following mech

it's possible but now isn't the time

Xiz 04-25-2020 07:56 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4726938)
ignoring inactives prolly bolt leetic ully

good. same (with bolt perhaps replaced with MML, but i am not sure... im probably wrong on MML)

XelNya 04-25-2020 07:56 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4726930)
Xel do you trust me?

yes

flashflash account 04-25-2020 07:57 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4726941)
it's possible but now isn't the time

just putting in my last will in case xiz tries to get away with a hero shot on me and justify it somehow

Funnygurl555 04-25-2020 07:57 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
voting now

Funnygurl555 04-25-2020 07:57 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
psychoangel

Xiz 04-25-2020 07:57 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4726944)
just putting in my last will in case xiz tries to get away with a hero shot on me and justify it somehow

if i were to be that petty i'd shoot haku

Xiz 04-25-2020 07:57 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4726943)
yes

/breathes in

wish me luck

Funnygurl555 04-25-2020 07:57 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
bolt jess ulli ffa sus pile

flashflash account 04-25-2020 07:57 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn (Post 4726940)
Don't have time to check

Do you not think Leetic is a wolf? Or do you just think psycho is a wolf over leetic?

not sure at all
thought leetic would have posted by now

jessiebessie 04-25-2020 07:57 PM

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i feel like it was weird for haku to focus so much on the timing of the entrance of xiz, psycho, and leetic, so he is prob my top wolf pick right now. but since the choices are leetic and psycho, I'll go with psycho

DaBackpack 04-25-2020 07:58 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4726944)
just putting in my last will in case xiz tries to get away with a hero shot on me and justify it somehow

acknowledged

Funnygurl555 04-25-2020 07:58 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
jess

XelNya 04-25-2020 07:58 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4726948)
/breathes in

wish me luck

I will be very upset if you shoot me btw

you will hear about it for days

DAYS

Funnygurl555 04-25-2020 07:58 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
yall dont need my psycho vote

jess is scum

Bolth mannn 04-25-2020 07:58 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
I think leetic is scummier than Psycho

Has Psycho even made 5 posts?

leetic 04-25-2020 07:59 PM

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Psycho

flashflash account 04-25-2020 07:59 PM

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let it rand :D

DaBackpack 04-25-2020 07:59 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leetic (Post 4726957)
Psycho

uhhh

Xiz 04-25-2020 08:00 PM

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I resend my 1-shot vigi (V) claim.

#TWGCHAOS


Bolth mannn 04-25-2020 08:00 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
disgusting^^

Funnygurl555 04-25-2020 08:00 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4726960)
I resend my 1-shot vigi (V) claim.

#TWGCHAOS


town

flashflash account 04-25-2020 08:00 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
xiz

Makilaz 04-25-2020 08:00 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
stop posting

DaBackpack 04-25-2020 08:00 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4726960)
I resend my 1-shot vigi (V) claim.

#TWGCHAOS


if you mean "rescind" then bitch WHAT

MixMasterLar 04-25-2020 08:00 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4726960)
I resend my 1-shot vigi (V) claim.

#TWGCHAOS


Kill this man next phase

Makilaz 04-25-2020 08:03 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
please be more careful in the future when phase ends, stop posting means stop posting

Makilaz 04-25-2020 08:03 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Vote Count:
4/25 @ 19:00

00:59 = GOOD
00:00 = BAD

==============

psychoangel691 [6]
Duskfall, Xiz, DaBackpack, flashflash account, jessiebessie, leetic

leetic [4]
MixMasterLar, Ulleabhara, Hakulyte, bolth mannn

MixMasterLar [1]
XelNya

jessiebessie [1]
Funnygurl555

Makilaz 04-25-2020 08:06 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
psychoangel691 has been lynched. they were Vanilla Town

night 1 has commenced, and will end in 24 hours - April 26th 7:00 PM Server Time

Makilaz 04-26-2020 08:00 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
in the night...

XelNya died. they were Vanilla Town

it is now day 1, ending in 48 hours - Tuesday, April 28th at 7:00 PM Server Time

you may now post

MixMasterLar 04-26-2020 08:03 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
I know what Xiz is gonna say but I need him to say it for me all the same

leetic 04-26-2020 08:04 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Funnygurl is either town or godfather

flashflash account 04-26-2020 08:06 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
xiz

if you aren't a pr then i want to lynch you bro

MixMasterLar 04-26-2020 08:06 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
If I was a cop, I checked Haku
If I was a blocker, I blocked FFA
If I was an angel, I targeted DBP
If I was the vigi, I'm dumb af and didn't counterclaim Xiz last phase.

leetic 04-26-2020 08:06 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
I guess SK is a possibility too but unlikely with only one kill tonight

flashflash account 04-26-2020 08:07 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
also, i greenchecked mml in case we're doing that

MixMasterLar 04-26-2020 08:07 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leetic (Post 4726991)
Funnygurl is either town or godfather

It's like


This was the worst way to go about this regardless of what alignment you are

Wow

leetic 04-26-2020 08:07 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4726995)
also, i greenchecked mml in case we're doing that

Are you sure about that?

leetic 04-26-2020 08:08 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4726996)
It's like


This was the worst way to go about this regardless of what alignment you are

Wow

I don't care, I'm only one shot anyway

flashflash account 04-26-2020 08:09 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7307

leetic 04-26-2020 08:09 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leetic (Post 4726023)
People, I have arrived! Obligatory daily check in. Clearly, town will win this one. Maybe we'll have to see. In any case, this is my first game here!

Take the first letter of each sentence, put them backwards, and it spells "IMCOP"

MixMasterLar 04-26-2020 08:09 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leetic (Post 4726998)
I don't care, I'm only one shot anyway

If it's one shot then you're right to go ahead and hardclaim, my bad.


.....You can confirm to me that you're hardclaiming, right?

leetic 04-26-2020 08:10 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4727001)
If it's one shot then you're right to go ahead and hardclaim, my bad.


.....You can confirm to me that you're hardclaiming, right?

Yup

flashflash account 04-26-2020 08:10 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
oh
good check I guess

MixMasterLar 04-26-2020 08:12 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Unless counterclaim I will believe this, especially with that soft.
Shit that's a good soft

leetic 04-26-2020 08:13 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
I considered checking Xiz, but their last post was probably some sort of gambit so I decided against it. Also considered XelNya, but fortunately I didn't do that

flashflash account 04-26-2020 08:14 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4727004)
Unless counterclaim I will believe this, especially with that soft.
Shit that's a good soft

it explains why the sentence parsed so weird to me :v
but yeah this is a pretty clean 2 clears, and good time to out it given leetic's eod

still, why wouldn't you cop me if you have a case on me?

Xiz 04-26-2020 08:15 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
I baiting them killing Xel over my real reads looks like.

I actually am the 1 shot, wanted to fool the mafia incase the people who I really had as softs was too obvi.

I took the shot, I was blocked. I think its the right call for me to out my target?

leetic 04-26-2020 08:16 PM

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4727006)
it explains why the sentence parsed so weird to me :v
but yeah this is a pretty clean 2 clears, and good time to out it given leetic's eod

still, why wouldn't you cop me if you have a case on me?

I voted you for your weird "red check on Funnygurl" posts. If I had explained why I would have outed myself

Funnygurl I checked partially for her being on a vanity wagon EoD, partially since I definitely wasn't playing my usual town play so I wondered why she recognized it as such


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