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god this is such a good cross-post

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Top eh

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I mean I agree I am probably most not w/w with Xel, but that interaction seems insignificant compared to others we had earlier

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

I mean, the others weren't that high up there either

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

I guess I just glazed over this earlier but like
what the hell are you talking about

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

You've been vocal about games getting lead by certain people a lot

I figured that was the reason for the more relaxed approach

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Am i misremembering?

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

i've definitely said that before, I don't really remember saying that recently but I've said it at some point so w/e

but not really
most of it is finals week but most of the rest of it is because I just want to enjoy games more

(I got the lyrics wrong the first time)
I want them to sing
I want them to dance
before they put me in the ground

I don't like
hate myself or the way I play or anything anywhere near that melodramatic, but I know I can enjoy this shitpost fiesta of a game more than I have been the past 2ish years

and I know that I'm boring a lot of the time; probably too boring. Its... hard for me to try and change that in a single instance but I just want to post memes and shitposts more

and if I just get bogged down in spamming f5 over and over and writing 10 posts in a row about my thoughts/faking my thoughts, I'm just not going to be enjoying the game as much as I can

I do really like it when people other than me lead, but I only have ever tried to tone that back in lTWG and I never have and probably never will do that in forum.

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

I think I need to more so withhold judgment on Shado end of day progression into today until he exists more

InD's FG read feels like something he really believes even though I don't have the context to know how much I should value it. But I respect it.

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

alright, looks like I'm pretty overdue to give a real reads list so here goes something

town to wolf (order matters)
sunfam

ind

xel

star
fg

shado











chair

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so, I have some explaining to do, as is necessary in this waste of time

I ended up feeling a lot more comfortable with Star/inD (especially inD) than I expected, and I ended up liking Shado less than I expected to.

Briefly talking about each one:

inD its just a following of his processes; I get it much better from him than from anyone else. I usually have a hard time reading him/firmly placing him somewhere but I think he's been very consistent this game, and I selfishly love the progression he had on me today (which I'll talk more about later)

Xel is an interesting read, its entirely because he said that we'd be idiots if we lynched him. Yeah, that's all of it, and it was never a hider-read on him at any point, though it got stronger on my reread. I forget why I was townreading him in the first place, but I think my new reason is better than whatever it was before.

star I'm going to do a really interesting thing with some meta just because I think I've pinned down what I find weird about her thus far. She had a really, really good post where I really did feel her mindset about trying to solve when she feels like too much of the day is gone, the setup sucks for town AND the players are too busy memeing that I doubt came from wolf!star, but my feeling does /slightly/ persist.

fg its just feels, same as it ever was. Her intermittent posts really do a good job of holding me over and she could easily jump up to where Xel is, if not higher, if she does one of like 5 things.

Shado is really interesting because I still don't /really/ think that he's with Charu because Charu started this day with something in mind (and still feels the same way which is A WOLF TELL FOR CHARU BTW). I would have to find the other wolf in my first group of people. Shado was kind of looser than I expected him to be if he is a wolf this game, his EOD was good, and perhaps the biggest, stupidest reason of all is that I don't really smell almonds right now. When he and FFA were wolfing in trailer park boys, it was like "huh, that's a funky smell, wonder what that is" and I just haven't been worrying about that this game. This is probably the worst read on the list and its my own fault that its so bad.

Charu I've probably not talked about enough, but I still feel very strongly about him. The fact that he is still pushing on Shado without, in my opinion, really trying to solve him, speaks a lot to me. That Subaru nightkill is significantly more likely to come from a team with Charu on it (and I also think that it SHOULD slightly limit the players he can be with). Really, I've just played so many games with Charu that when I KNOW he's wolfing, I really, really know that he's wolfing, and I'm rather convinced its now.

To elaborate, he's made confusing nightkills for a very long time. He denied that he's done that recently, and my memory agrees with him, to his credit. But I can't find an explanation for Subaru dying otherwise. I think the setup really does do a good job of letting the wolves make minimum information kills, and you really only need to look at today to see that that could be something that the wolves have been going for. He did it in Undertale, which is the game that sticks out the most in my mind (really because it was anonymous and I had to try to figure out who Charu was so I could change my mind with regard to lynching him.

I am still /slightly/ apprehensive on Charu, for two reasons. I have thought he was a wolf on d0 a lot recently (don't really remember if I had a read on him yesterday). If I'm wrong on Charu, this game gets really, really hard for me, borderline unwinnable probably.

--------------------------------------------

I want to talk about the inD-hiding-behind-sunfan thing. If I thought the hider was going to hide behind me as a wolf, I would let them 10 times out of 10 if it brings the game into mylo. I know that this is like
bad for me to say or w/e, but it is true

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boy, I sure hated making this post
I want to get back to being counterproductive ASAP

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

My biggest thought right now is 7 is a much more awkward number than I thought it would be

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

honestly I won't even try to front I started running on fumes at the end because I wanted to be done

ugh

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Unwinnable thesunfan says, pssssssshhhhhhh

This guy

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Someone that isn't trying to deduce the game effectively.

Therefore the list.

Maybe Xel should be in there, but I'm gonna keep believing they're town here.

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

I mean, I guess you could be put me up there, but that's up to ya's.

thesunfan wanting me dead is breaking my heart though.

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Sorry I'm late. Seems like a lot's happened, maybe that'll give me enough kindling to fuel the spark y'all seem to want. Or maybe I just need to clench a little harder to avoid being so loose hahaha (sorry sorry)

I'm bout to drive home so I'll be one hour longer and then you'll have my undivided attention. Also in fairness to myself I think my posts thus far (while I've been absent for a few hours today) have shown my stream of consciousness to a decent extent lols anyway see u guys soon

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Oh also forgot this

Sorry not sorry

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Votes:

Charu -> ShadoWolfe


ShadoWolfe- 1 (Charu, )

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

charu
heartbreaker
love maker
somethinsomethin donchumessaroundwithme

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

when star was a wolf in the last turbo, she had 21.5 words per post
I ave been feeling that it is much lower for her this game, so I'm gonna tally that up and see where we are

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Oh sunfaaaaaaaaaaan...

Is there any way I could get back in your heeeeeeeeart...?

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

32.3 from star this game (counting d0 only)
:frysquint:

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

that was probably the most time I've ever wasted playing this stupid game
when I was rereading this game, I realized shadow/star never works so like
if I'm wrong on charu, both wolves are relatively deep, most likely

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

that wasn't fun
I refuse to do any more work this phase
heehaw

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Is it possible that Charu is a wolf and actually doesn't understand how the hider works, or does he have to be lying?

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

he doesn't have to be lying, unless you saw something I didn't.

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

For starters it is nice to hear someone actually feels good about knowing who a wolf is. I'm just over here [actually, I should not finish this thought].

An interesting aspect of your message, is that clearly you're writing for an audience considering the length/ effort. But the actual thought processes you have are very .... self centered. And I do not mean that you are arrogant, I mean that they sound like things that you did not come up with to convince others, you are just describing why you yourself, are convinced. Including with the Undertake tangent.

I do not know if I know what a minimum info kill is really.

But would I vote Charu after reading this and Charu's reaction, probably.

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

nice

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

hello

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

yeah but you said you were removing who you thought were the viable voting candidates

so i was wondering if you were just trying ot be spicy or something

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

is there something game related i should be getting here

i'm not sure i get even the non-game-related bit

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

heyoo

lightning storm

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

did you read where i looked at the eod again? because i like that read if it's about how she played most of d0, but i could see revisiting it next to the eod and today so far. it's getting to the point where it feels like she could belong in the "poke and see what happens" group because she just gave a quickish hot take about sunfan vs. charu earlier

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Bzzzzt

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

sun fan's defense of her stood out to me more than her own messages did, if that makes sense.

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

what's the almond thing

i had one backgrounded thought about this game while i was taking care of things and it was an anti-alignment which came up on this page as well: sunfan/xel ain't the team because the town leading talk is so weird

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

I needed this

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

First off to address things on me I'ma just tell it like it is

Biggest ish is my lack of presence this phase, I'mma address that right now

Second biggest ish is that people think I'm too loose. I think that's defo true but I don't think it's alignment indicative, and if it was it'd probably show that I'm not playing with my "good wolf" reputation at stake unless I stopped caring about my reputation overnight, but let's not get into that or set bad precedents here

Third biggest ish is there seems to be some *looming* thought that I "came after people only after they came at me" which is just chronologically wrong. inD said this, and then to his credit went back and looked and found that in both the case of star and fg, I raised my sus of them before they ever said anything about me. Same goes for sunfan. I think this untruth is mostly gone from people's minds, but I just saw Charu saying something to the effect that I did this and it's wrong FYI

k PSA over not gonna focus on me in order to make the most of this time unless anyone's got specific questions so here we go

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

ignoring the nk thing, this might be putting voice to the weirdness i was feeling with his d0 reads in a smaller way

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

It kind of reads, to me, like you immediately forgot that Xel posted the post that went above yours
and if you cheat, it reads like you were disgusted by it and did it on purpose

maybe I didn't explain it well but I'm not going to check but there's a poison that (if memory serves) smells just like almonds

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

I don't think that anyone is really saying this?

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Didn't notice day end creeping up.

Charu

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

i don't think i said that third biggest thing at all, shado

i remember calling you prickly but that was in the behavioral sense and we talked it out

anyway

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Off memory before I go back and delve deeper

Two things that pinged me hard while skimming in spare moments earlier today were:

sunfan had a weird intermission in the midst of his certainty on Charu. it was like *Gonna hang Charu* ---> wait I'm wrong ---> *wait I'm right Charu die u scum* within a couple moments of each other. struck me as contrived, forced, fake like he wanted to try and make it seem like he was having "genuine" second thoughts ----In fairness to his slot, there were a couple of posts where he explained his funfam mentality that I really related with, so I'm not coming to a conclusion here yet just noting what stuck out to me earlier

in a similar vein, FG did something really similar where she voted sunfan and then unvoted right after with some questionable reasoning I can't remember. at the time, I was contemplating the odds she makes that post to distance from a partner who went to bat for her and defended her the previous phase, but whether or not it's w/w, it hit my gut like a bullet train without brakes

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

ok
lmao ok
ok
, respectively

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

if ur talking about the beginning of the phase, its pretty minor, but I thought for a second that it was 100% the case that wolves had to have put kp on subaru, then for a split second I confused myself and thought that it wasn't the case, then got back to the right track

its not the thing that I'm proud of doing though

and I'm surprised to see you relate to that because, and this is needlessly selfish
its kind of a problem that I feel only for myself

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

@inD and @sunfan since you both said it's not really happening
bold is by me

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

heh. you of all people should know how I've pushed myself to migraines and beyond some games sacrificing sleep and pain for a game that should've been funner

so yes I 100% relate to trying to make it funner for yourself 'cause that's something I went through too

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

yeah that certainly exists, i just didn't remember me sayin git

carry on

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

well, ok, these lines are more than tangential but I was not quite talking about the same thing

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

sunfan said he hasn't smelled almonds in the post where he was saying that he doesn't think I'm a wolf because I don't smell funny like in my most recent wolfgame
so I posted almond oil to meme - sorry not sorry

also "lightning storm" in my post coming back most recently referenced the lack of sparks star felt from me last phase

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Votes:

Charu -> ShadoWolfe
the sun fan -> Charu
star-crossed -> Charu

Charu- 2 (the sun fan, star-crossed, )
ShadoWolfe- 1 (Charu, )

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

oh, I thought you were saying you were in a lightening storm and would maybe lose connection

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Hmmm.

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

what if i voted like

funny

is there anything that doesn't put funny/charu in play

most of her good posts are rear window and i want thoughts, specially since she left off on asking shado what he was thinking and with the vote/unvote thing on sunfan

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

yeah honestly
I was about to post about how this game just kind of feels like the wolves might be getting buried in postcount or something

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Tea.

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Well:

My main concern with her d0 is just that she seems to avoid actually talking to T-Force (especially since he talks about her quite a bit). He's "weird" and they disagree on their strongest relative read. So from a wolf perspective she's just fine with him getting heat from this, and her partner is under the radar.

Her end of day posts are otherwise fine though.

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Can anyone with a hard town read on FG explain their reasoning to me, please?

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

I've played with town FG. I've played with wolf FG. I'm not saying I have a grip on her wolfgame at all, but I do feel like I know and like her well enough to know when something's off, and something's definitely off.

I've gone back thru her posts and she has a grand total of 6-8 posts related to thoughts on the game depending on your definition of "game-related", and of those three are distinctly opportune posts where she questioned sunfan's post that was already getting pressure, asked me where my head was when I was being mentioned in thread. Her top suspect seems to generally match thread.

It's like a classic case of UTR wolfing. Someone tell me why I'm wrong

Funnygurl

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

ninja'd hardcore
great
oh well at least it's moving in the right direction

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

i forget if i told you this in a game before, i definitely haven't posted it in this game yet because it's stupid

i have a stupid little checkbox on my mental concept of your wolf game for "the bit of d0 where he leaves for a little while and is loud about it and bumps into all the chandeliers on his way out" and this game passes that

and now i don't know what to do because it's obviously a recurring thought that can overwhelm whatever else you're doing

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Votes:

Charu -> ShadoWolfe
the sun fan -> Charu
star-crossed -> Charu
inDheart -> Funnygurl555
ShadoWolfe -> Funnygurl555

Charu- 2 (the sun fan, star-crossed, )
Funnygurl555- 1 (inDheart, ShadoWolfe, )
ShadoWolfe- 1 (Charu, )

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

you type fast
how's your wpm

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why do I bump into all the chandeliers I'm not that tall...
I can't tell if this is a town-read or a scum-read

I also kind of figured you would've thought it was wolfy of me to post so many words about why I think Charu is a wolf since I know that was part of your read (and maybe not a bad one)

I would've voted for fg if shado didn't just now

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Alright, I just got done with a small Halo session.

My game face is (sort of) on!

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

You know, before right now I was not even sure if FG flipping red would make Shado look better.

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Well I mean... Funny did post slank

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

no I typed posts 1 and 2 together after going thru EoD and her ISO and then didn't want the original question to get lost in my own answer to it so I split it and posted it as two posts and then saw you had already voted her and stolen my thunder spark

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Why we votin' her? Is it because of lack of posts?

That's probably the correct thing to do, but I dunno fam.

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

I thought this was mostly about yesterday though.

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I look great FYI

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

it is a scum twinge among what is ?probably? just a body-of-work townread otherwise, that probably shouldn't even be indicative of anything, but it's how pattern recognition goes sometimes

i have previously written novels about how you read charu early game but i've also forgotten the entire midsection of those

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Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

thesunfan, did you convince Ms. Star to vote with you?

sunfan...



sunfaaaaaaaaan...

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

or as the trendy kids say, "a-wall"

but it's as much about the note(s) she left on today

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

(Click through to the original post to see quotes)

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

why aren't you fighting me with words and are instead fighting me with emotions

its new and the fact that that image is the tiniest bit cute is bothersome

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM
 

Okay, this might seem bad everyone but...

...

...I don't have a strong wolf read yet at the end of the second phase.